Rafael da Silva | 2010-14 Performances

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I have seen him play twice for them and he was excellent, entirely reminiscent of Rafael. It appears that he started slowly and got better, there are some posts in the Fabio thread from QPR fans expressing delight with some of his performances. He has picked up a couple of injuries again this season though. I am confident that he can reach Rafa's level, just that it might take a few years more.

You reckon he'll be first choice in a season or so then?

Surely the time for the Baines move has passed now.
 
Fergie trusts Evra religiously. Since hes joined I dont think anyone at the club has played more games, he'll be playing him as long as possible!

He joined on the 10th of January 2006, with 17 games in the season left, then obviously 38 in each of the following seasons, up until this seasons 27 and counting. Since Evra joined us, we've played 272 premier league games. Patrice has played in 228 of those, a massive 84% of our league games.

Maths

17+38+38+38+38+38+38+27=272
11+24+33+28+38+35+37+22=228
6+14+5+10+0+3+1+5=44
272-228=44
228/272=84%
 
84% is massive considering theres injuries and suspensions to be considered!

Ridiculous.

That took ages, so I'm not doing anyone else...

Well I kinda want to see how many Rooney/Carrick have been invovled in.
 
His goal today was a diamond on a dung heap of a game, I wish RVP had scored off that Beckham-esque pass he hit later in the half.
 
Haven't watched the game yet. But what a strike by Rafael. Just came of the boot perfectly.
 
Another good performance, well on his way to becoming the best RB in the world if he can keep up his form over the next few years.
 
He joined on the 10th of January 2006, with 17 games in the season left, then obviously 38 in each of the following seasons, up until this seasons 27 and counting. Since Evra joined us, we've played 272 premier league games. Patrice has played in 228 of those, a massive 84% of our league games.

I'd love to know what the stats are starting 2007/08, when Evra was fully settled and made the position his own, and Heinze was gone. It'll probably be 90% plus.
 
You reckon he'll be first choice in a season or so then?

Surely the time for the Baines move has passed now.

I think we'll see him more next season at left back - I think part of the reason that Evra has started 95% (or whatever number close to 100%) of games over the last few seasons has been the constant change in the right back spot between Neville, Rafael, O'Shea, Brown, Smalling, Jones and even Valencia. That way at least one side of the defence was constant.

If Rafael is assumed to have it locked down by the end of the season going forward then we might see Fabio start to be introduced for more league games at left back.
 
That pass to van Persie was sensational.

And even more so due to the fact that it came a matter of seconds after he cleared off the line at the other end... He had yet another great game.
 
A goal like that and he doesn't even get goal of the weekend, let alone goal of the month. Stupid Cisse!

Personally think rafaels goal was the much harder technique.

Running onto a bouncing ball moving away is much easier to volley like that,
Where as rafaels was coming at him head on, and hit it without a first touch.

To control that ball into the top corner is very difficult, 99/100 they go ballooning into the crowd.

Cisses was a great hit, but rafaels made me wow, cisses was just a "good hit"
 
On MOTD2 they took the three great strikes of the weekend, Cisse, Rafael and Berbs, the panel agreed Berbs' was the most difficult from a technique perspective and Rafael's looked the most impressive. I think that sounds about right. All three were crackers, I thought it was a toss up between Berbs and Rafael for which was the pick of the bunch.
 
And yet, he don't get a call at Seleção. I've been ranting about him there since last year, but Mano didn't seem fond of him. Stuck with Maicon as long as possible, and Dani is the master of the position there even with the huge dip in his performance since last year. Than, Felipão takes over, and Rafa is not even called again. I mean, wow, best RB in the league, arguably with Zabaleta and for at least two seasons.

He is brilliant, and has matured so much is mindblowing.
 
Was watching MOTD with my mates and they were all laughing at van Persie falling in the hole instead of paying attention to the goal, the bastards.
 
Rafael's is the most technically difficult volley of the three. By the time Cisse hits the ball, it's only really moving downwards, not across or towards him. It drops onto his foot, making it as easy to catch cleanly as a moving ball can be.

Rafael hit a ball moving fast towards him, requiring him to time his strike that much more perfectly. Not only did his shot move much faster than Cisse's, he also effectively had to cancel out the ball's 'away from goal' momentum, so he was putting a huge amount more power into his strike. And obviously the more power you hit the ball with, the more difficult it is to control.

On top of that, Cisse hit a dipper, and Rafael's shot flew straight. The former is easier to produce, because it allows the foot to move on the ball during the contact. Whereas Rafael's contact with the ball had to be perfectly consistent, otherwise it would have sliced off wildly. At the sort of speed he hit it, a modern football is like a table-tennis ball - to make it fly true that fast with no spin is insanely difficult.

Here endeth the essay on why the Manchester United player done good more than the non-Manchester United player done good. :D
 
Shearer was arguing it is even harder to watch a ball dropping from a height and then arrow it on target, than to deal with the ball coming at you, hence Berbs being the most technically difficult of the three. I have to say I couldnt really tell you which is the more difficult of the two, cause I wouldnt come close to doing either of them. But even a footballing layman can see Cisse's, while looking spectacular, was the easiest of the three to do.
 
Rafael's is the most technically difficult volley of the three. By the time Cisse hits the ball, it's only really moving downwards, not across or towards him. It drops onto his foot, making it as easy to catch cleanly as a moving ball can be.

Rafael hit a ball moving fast towards him, requiring him to time his strike that much more perfectly. Not only did his shot move much faster than Cisse's, he also effectively had to cancel out the ball's 'away from goal' momentum, so he was putting a huge amount more power into his strike. And obviously the more power you hit the ball with, the more difficult it is to control.

On top of that, Cisse hit a dipper, and Rafael's shot flew straight. The former is easier to produce, because it allows the foot to move on the ball during the contact. Whereas Rafael's contact with the ball had to be perfectly consistent, otherwise it would have sliced off wildly. At the sort of speed he hit it, a modern football is like a table-tennis ball - to make it fly true that fast with no spin is insanely difficult.

Here endeth the essay on why the Manchester United player done good more than the non-Manchester United player done good. :D

This can't be a serious post.
 
Shearer was arguing it is even harder to watch a ball dropping from a height and then arrow it on target, than to deal with the ball coming at you, hence Berbs being the most technically difficult of the three. I have to say I couldnt really tell you which is the more difficult of the two, cause I wouldnt come close to doing either of them. But even a footballing layman can see Cisse's, while looking spectacular, was the easiest of the three to do.

I suppose it depends what technique you are best at, but personally for me keeping a ball down from coming towards you, is harder than hitting a ball coming from the air.

I guess both are about timing and body positioning, but from the ease that berbatov hit the ball i think it shows what is the harder shot - its no different than taking a ball cleanily out of the air with a good first touch.

Im not just saying it because Rafael is our player, but i really was stunned that he hit it first time and perfectly arrowed into the corner - much like the Lyon goal against Tottenham recently.
 
Yeah I think Rafael's is better than Cisse's. To hit a ball bouncing at you on a shit pitch with a player pressuring you and to strike through it with such perfect technique to keep the ball down, straight and powerful is just class.

With Cisse's you just need a good connection and the ball can dip like a motherfecker. Still excellent but not as difficult.
 
That pass to RVP was just as impressive if not more so than the goal. Running down the wing at pace on a shoddy pitch and picking out an inch perfect pass. Bloody brilliant
 
Shearer was arguing it is even harder to watch a ball dropping from a height and then arrow it on target, than to deal with the ball coming at you, hence Berbs being the most technically difficult of the three. I have to say I couldnt really tell you which is the more difficult of the two, cause I wouldnt come close to doing either of them. But even a footballing layman can see Cisse's, while looking spectacular, was the easiest of the three to do.

Yup.
Cissés was definitely the easiest of the three.
 
Rafael's wasn't a volley, the ball took a few bounces

I'd have to take another look at the replay to be sure, but didn't the ball just come up off the bounce as Rafael took the shot, making it, technically at least, a half volley?

Goal of the season short lister, without any question. Full erection stuff!
 
Berbatov's looked the most difficult to me because of the height he hit the ball. Rafael's was next because of how true he had to hit it on the run and then Cisse's, which was much less technically difficult the other two.
 
Very early to call it but he's pushing hard for United's POTY alongside Carrick and Van Persie.
 
Berbatov's looked the most difficult to me because of the height he hit the ball. Rafael's was next because of how true he had to hit it on the run and then Cisse's, which was much less technically difficult the other two.

Berbatov makes almost anything look easy, except for running. For that reason alone Rafael's strike was infinitely more difficult.
 
Berba's was prolly the hardest technically, as you can easily fluff the ones you have to follow from high and close up and then have a first time swing at. That said, he was far closer to the goal. Rafael took a ball with decent pace on it, put his boot through it, and got that kind of sweet strike that makes you feel like you're watching one of those outdated football games where you sometimes would strike the ball just so and it would turn into a bullet that levelled anybody trying to get in the way of it, including the goal keeper.

Unstoppable. The pace of it took it well past Cesar before he could react.
 
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