Ffs. Get back in the sea will you.
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Ffs. Get back in the sea will you.
That much is obvious.
Angel di Maria.. there is your pace for now, not quite sure how you can claim there will be no creativity among Rooney, RVP and Falcao.
Struck a nerve sir?
The thing with both RVP and Falcao is that both are incredibly good at converting chances. If you watch the video of RVP's first season with us the vast majority of goals actually came from crosses. Falcao's goals are a bit more varied, but also rely on service.
I'm really worried we're not addressing the main issue - we don't create chances any more. And having 2 world class finishers isn't going to solve that.
I'd wager a good deal of money Costa will handily outscore Falcao. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Welbeck gets more this season.
I'm really worried we're not addressing the main issue - we don't create chances any more. And having 2 world class finishers isn't going to solve that.
I'd wager a good deal of money Costa will handily outscore Falcao. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Welbeck gets more this season.
We've bought in three midfielders though?
Because none of them consistently create chances?
As for Di Maria, he's gonna have a hell of a lot on his shoulders to create everything for us. Thats why I think Mata has to play if we are to make a front 3 work.
Sorry, yes I agree. I mean Falcao isn't the answer to our problem. Or rather upgrading one of strikers isn't the answer.
Think he'll end up being a waste of money, unfortunately, and will leave us needing a new striker in 1 or 2 seasons when RVP and he both leave.
Did you not watch tonights game, Rooney created several chances.. also Di Maria and Mata in the same team would create a lot but properly leave us with 1 up top.
Rooney played quite well today, but he doesnt do it enough on a regular basis for United.
I reckon something like this could work...
------Falcao------Rooney/RVP
------------Mata-------------
----Di Maria-------Herrera------
-------------Blind---------------
If we have a consistent midfield and defence, our forwards will score for fun. Falcao, Rooney, RVP, whoever.
You end with that statement after making predictions your self
Hillarious. Yeah, Di Maria was so frustrating against Germany. 3-5-2 doesn't work, 4-1-2-1-2 won't work. Narrow formations with two at the top are terrible, so congested and without any quality wide men we will continue to be frustrated.Not if they are consistently shit
Well, I believe we have the right balance and quality with di Maria, Herrera and Blind.
You end with that statement after making predictions your self
I'm making my predictions based on things that I have seen. You are stating that certain things will not work without ever seeing them happen. Also Di Maria is hands down more effective in CM than on the Wing. He would probably admit so himself. One friendly match against a weakened Germany in which Durm was playing on Di Maria's flank is nothing to go by at all. As I said in my OP, he might have a world class game as a winger but he also tends to be inconsistent there, something which is not apparent when he plays as a CM, where he has been consistently world class.
I though pre-season would have taught you not to take friendlies seriously? Also going by your logic, then the 3-5-2 is also a great system since we we beat the Champions league holders 3-1 using that formation. ----Same logic you used to describe Di Marias performance as a winger vs Germany to prove my original statement wrong. Weakened team, one game, friendly etc...
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We bought probably the best creator of chances in the world in Di Maria. He's also not a #10 type player like Mata or Ozil who need runners and good service and space to pick off teams, he can create things on his own and create for others because of his pace and skill on the ball. Genuinely don't think there was a better player we could have bought to make our attack click, even if we could choose anyone in the world.
Dont think anyone can really argue with vanP being dropped,or 3-5-2 being scrapped now we have the resources to switch.
Big fish,bigger pond.
I still cant believe we ve signed Falcao.
Big fish,bigger pond.
I still cant believe we ve signed Falcao.
There isn't. RVP , Rooney nor Falcao are creative players. They're goal scorers.
His inconsistencies are also really overrated though. He wasn't like Nani where he'd go from brilliant to complete dog shit and you genuinely didn't know which one would show up. He had brilliant games, a few poor ones and average ones. Was still one of the best wingers around at creating chances consistently.
Herrera will be a class act in the centre of midfield, wait til you see. Blind will be a nice link between defence and midfield but I'm not sure he'll bring as much quality as Herrera. I can see Herrera playing lovely passes like Fabregas did for Schurrle the other week once he settles in, with Falcao getting on the end of them 
Herrera will be a class act in the centre of midfield, wait til you see. Blind will be a nice link between defence and midfield but I'm not sure he'll bring as much quality as Herrera. I can see Herrera playing lovely passes like Fabregas did for Schurrle the other week once he settles in, with Falcao getting on the end of them
I think this is the problem. Everyone is saying our midfield is shit yet we still havent had a proper look at Blind, Herrera and Di Maria. Once those three come into the team our midfield completely changes and we will be in a better position to know just how good we are.
This is the midfield we need to control a game and create chances for the likes of falcao
I would post an argument in this thread, but I think this is as good a summary of the issue a there could be.
Well Herrera played the second most through balls in La Liga? And Di Maria had the most assists. If those two are not adding creation to the team we are doomed.
I feel some United fans dont even know the team we have anymore. The injuries need to go away now.
And didn't Ozil have the most assists before he left real as well... But as soon as it got a bit cold over here he seemed to not fancy it last year.
Herrera and Di Maria have all the tools to be a success here - but so did Veron.
I remain optimistic but I do believe it will still take time for it to click and just hope we can be close enough to the cl spots when it does click that we can finish in the top four
It get's pretty cold in Madrid too over the winter. I think it's more down to getting used to the style of play.
You can't really compare Özil. He is known for being brilliant when the surroundings are easy for him (good weather, easy team, little pressure) but is known as a fair-weather player as he doesn't play well when the going gets tough.
It will take time to click, but I am more confident in Di Maria and Herrera than I would have been for Özil/Veron, as the former works harder than almost any other player and the latter seems pretty much made for English football.
Is this fella cleared to play for us now? Work permit sorted and everything?
What you said doesnt have anything to do with what I said or commented on though does it?. The guy I quoted said we ignored the chance creation part of the team. I pointed out that we have brought 2 of the best from Spain in to the team.
Bet he'll be injured in one of his first appearances and stay that way for several months. Will never return ti be the player he was and slowly decay into nothingness...
That's the spirit!
Really hope not but given our luck with injuries..
But then again we don't need to buy him after the season, as we supposedly have an option to buy him and nothing else after the loan is done.
Think he is still awaiting clearance on the Visa thing. Work Permit shouldn't be a issue.
Shouldn't take as much time as Rojo anyway.
Perfect.
Is Falcao ready to play for United, I mean does he have to get a work permit or anything? Can't wait to see him unleashed
Are you Danny Welbeck by any chance?
I'm Wanny Delbeck
There's being a competitive player who goes in hard, and biting people, stamping on people, racism etc.
can't really argue they're anywhere near the same ball park.
Great stuff. Keep it up!
Guys watch RVP tonight and tell me that we didnt need Falcao.
sentimentality in here. 80% of the time Welbeck has been gash for us. He's gone now, move on.
We now have Falcao, Rooney and Van Persie as our strike force. Incredible
Exactly. This is the reason the likes of him and Cleverley lasted so long at the club.
Exactly, it's a shame, because I really liked Welbeck. But always knew he wouldn't be as big as first thought. He will do good at arsenal though.
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