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Why are people here talking as if we wanted to kick Welbeck out of the club? Wasn't he the one who wanted out?
 
Why are people here talking as if we wanted to kick Welbeck out of the club? Wasn't he the one who wanted out?

He was told he was fifth choice striker, that he would struggle for game time, and that he could leave if he wanted to. Of course he "wanted out," he was given no other alternative.
 
He was told he was fifth choice striker, that he would struggle for game time, and that he could leave if he wanted to. Of course he "wanted out," he was given no other alternative.
And you have proof of this?
 
And you have proof of this?

Fairly content with the manner of James Ducker's reporting this week to know he's been sourced well. The article was in the Times. It's also been reported by a number of creditable journalists that we were willing to let him leave, that we couldn't give him the game time he wanted. We've also been actively searching for another striker for the best part of 12 months now, hence the signing of Falcao.

We may not have "kicked him out of the club" but he was left with no real future at the club, that much is fairly obvious.
 
Fairly content with the manner of James Ducker's reporting this week to know he's been sourced well. The article was in the Times. It's also been reported by a number of creditable journalists that we were willing to let him leave, that we couldn't give him the game time he wanted. We've also been actively searching for another striker for the best part of 12 months now, hence the signing of Falcao.

We may not have "kicked him out of the club" but he was left with no real future at the club, that much is fairly obvious.
Oh James Ducker said so. Instead of following a yahoo, why don't you think back to Jan/Feb when this story first broke out about him wanting out? And going by your logic, was Welbeck a 5th choice striker then? Why did he want out? And left with no real future? WOW! He made 36 appearances in all competitions for us last season and 40 appearances the year before. Is that us telling a player he has no future with us? Also we haven't been "actively" searching for a striker for 12 months. We had 4 with Wilson coming along well. We were "linked" to a few especially with Cavani the most but thats all paper talk.
 
And you have proof of this?
There is proof. In his last presser before deadline day, when he was asked who could be leaving, LVG said that it was up to the players to decide if they wanted to leave. Going by that, logic dictates that Danny asked to leave. This also coincided with Wilson's promotion to first team training. Connect the dots.
 
There is proof. In his last presser before deadline day, when he was asked who could be leaving, LVG said that it was up to the players to decide if they wanted to leave. Going by that, logic dictates that Danny asked to leave. This also coincided with Wilson's promotion to first team training. Connect the dots.
Or that Welbeck was the one who said he wanted to leave, so LVG obliged and we didn't want to keep him against his wishes? We don't know what happened behind the scenes. Do you honestly think that people like Giggs and the rest associated with the club would have left Welbeck just walk out of here with no reason? LVG might be mad sometimes but he isn't daft to understand how important youth team players are for a club. We shouldnt doubt him of all people for this.
 
Oh James Ducker said so. Instead of following a yahoo, why don't you think back to Jan/Feb when this story first broke out about him wanting out? And going by your logic, was Welbeck a 5th choice striker then? Why did he want out? And left with no real future? WOW! He made 36 appearances in all competitions for us last season and 40 appearances the year before. Is that us telling a player he has no future with us? Also we haven't been "actively" searching for a striker for 12 months. We had 4 with Wilson coming along well. We were "linked" to a few especially with Cavani the most but thats all paper talk.


I'll start with this "paper talk" lark, as you strike me as one of these "the papers know feck all" lads. There is a lot more to it than that. You can discard creditable journalists that are sourced by Ed Woodward directly all you like, but that would be more fool you. Daniel Taylor, the closest man to Woodward at any of the broadsheets, has been rabbiting on about our admitted need for a striker with "dynamism" for months now. He even recently detailed how we met with the agent of Cavani immediately after the new year and that the player himself was open to the idea of moving. This isn't some junior at a tabloid being forced to make up stories, it's one of the best sourced football journalists in the country, one who used to work the Manchester beat. Welbeck or no Welbeck, Falcao, or another, has been in the pipeline for a while.

Then there's initial reports of Welbeck wanting to leave earlier in the season. Welbeck has a talkative camp, I reckon that's obvious. It was clearly true. He clearly didn't have a working relationship with Moyes and was thinking of moving for the benefit of his career. Fair one, no? Moyes is replaced, Van Gaal is appointed and he immediately tells the media he is excited for the season ahead. With a few days of the transfer window to go, mass reports from creditable journos indicate that he's been told he can leave, that his game time will be limited, that we don't want to sell him to a top six club, and Ducker himself went on to state that James Wilson's progress was a major influence behind the manager's thinking. Hence 5th choice. Clearly the situation changed for Welbeck throughout the summer, as we added more players to the squad.

He could have stayed in the squad I'm sure, but it will have been a wasted season, one where he finds himself behind all of Rooney, Van Persie, Falcao and now Wilson, not to mention we have the likes of Mata, Januzaj and Di Maria fighting for places, too. In the end, to leave the club was a mutual parting of ways, probably best for all parties given the circumstances, but people would be foolish to pretend as if Welbeck decided he'd push for a move for no reason with only a day left of the transfer window for the pure hell of it. I've written far too much here but hey ho.
 
There is proof. In his last presser before deadline day, when he was asked who could be leaving, LVG said that it was up to the players to decide if they wanted to leave. Going by that, logic dictates that Danny asked to leave. This also coincided with Wilson's promotion to first team training. Connect the dots.
Also thats not proof. You putting two things together is proof? When you don't know whats goes on in the club, you can't assume things.
 
Don't know how it will go in an English accent. It suits to Spanish, time will tell.
 
I hope he's good because it would be a shame not to hear that song for bordering 90 minutes every week.
 
He was told he was fifth choice striker, that he would struggle for game time, and that he could leave if he wanted to. Of course he "wanted out," he was given no other alternative.
Most reports said he was 3rd behind RvP & Rooney... who would he be 5th behind when Chicharito was already going out on loan? At worst he'd be 4th (behind falcao, rvp, rooney). There have been no signs to say Wilson was ahead of him.
 
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Most reports said he was 3rd behind RvP & Rooney... who would he be 5th behind when Chicharito was already going out on loan? At worst he'd be 4th. There have been no signs to say Wilson was ahead of him.

Falcao and Wilson. As I've stated, James Ducker has put his name to this and did so with authority. If people want to live in some daft cloud whereby Welbeck just randomly decided to piss off with one day of the window to go then they can set themselves away. If Welbeck was third choice striker at the club he'd still be here.
 
Falcao and Wilson. As I've stated, James Ducker has put his name to this and did so with authority. If people want to live in some daft cloud whereby Welbeck just randomly decided to piss off with one day of the window to go then they can set themselves away. If Welbeck was third choice striker at the club he'd still be here.
i didnt think he was 3rd but 4th..I also think he'd still "piss off" as he wanted to be a starter either way. But no I dont think he was 5th and I dont really care that it was Ducker - he and others have been wrong before. Iv'e based it on teh fact that even days before he left Welbeck was played over Wilson.
 
He made 36 appearances in all competitions for us last season and 40 appearances the year before. Is that us telling a player he has no future with us?

It's obviously not telling a player he has no future with us. But looking at his future, how many of those appearances were starts? And how many of them were upfront, which is what he needs in order to develop as a striker?

I'm sure we wanted him to stay, but we couldn't do that and also give him what he needed in order to improve. Van Gaal pretty much said he'll give the fringe players his idea of their position in the squad and will allow them to make up their own minds.
 
fecking hell. I'm as annoyed at Welbeck leaving as the next caftard but does have to be discussed in every fecking thread on redcafe?

No.

Anymore Welbeck talk in here will be deleted and warning points given out. Take it to his own thread.
 
Now I'm stuck at home ill, so someone show me a good Falcao youtube compilation to pass some time.
 
Also thats not proof. You putting two things together is proof? When you don't know whats goes on in the club, you can't assume things.
The same applies to suggestions that we asked him to go. My objective has been achieved. I'll get my coat.
 
When Falcao scores a hatrick this weekend any talk of that local lad who's moved to Arsenal will be forgotten!
 
I believe it's for copyright reasons.

Simple fix, just don't put any music on the clips! I'd much rather watch 720p+ rather than stupid effects and listen to a commentator (even the Arabs that I can't understand) than the stupid free music these people choose.
 
lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo, Radamel Falcaoooo
lo-lo-lo, lo-lo-lo
lo-lo-lo, lo-lo-lo
Radamel Falcaoooo

Can't get it out of my head! Will be singing it at OT on Sunday. :D
 
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