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Falcao has something legendary about him, his hair, name, goals vs top teams.

I think he's going to be great for this. Can see him banging them in against the Top 4.
 
Didn't you enquire about Falcao? Well according to Ben Smith of the BBC you did. I think he said you were told "no chance".
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1000% correct. Instead at 28, nearly 29, he went to a team that could actually pay him obscene Rooneyesque money. Europe or no Europe. Halamadrid didn't work so Utd it was.

Denial works both ways.
 
1000% correct. Instead at 28, nearly 29, he went to a team that could actually pay him obscene Rooneyesque money. Europe or no Europe. Halamadrid didn't work so Utd it was.

Denial works both ways.

Genuinely gutted we can afford to pay for the top players. Watching Lallana, Lambert and Balotelli slip through our fingers hurt a lot. fecking Moyes making sure we weren't in the Champions League.
 
Genuinely gutted we can afford to pay for the top players. Watching Lallana, Lambert and Balotelli slip through our fingers hurt a lot. fecking Moyes making sure we weren't in the Champions League.

I agree with you as you agree with me then.
 
1000% correct. Instead at 28, nearly 29, he went to a team that could actually pay him obscene Rooneyesque money. Europe or no Europe. Halamadrid didn't work so Utd it was.

Denial works both ways.
Don't get too worked up about it. Yes we can still sign world class players over you, even without European football. Thats just the way it is. Embrace it.
 
Genuinely gutted we can afford to pay for the top players. Watching Lallana, Lambert and Balotelli slip through our fingers hurt a lot. fecking Moyes making sure we weren't in the Champions League.

Exactly this. Some would prefer Di Maria and Falcao, but Can, Lambert, Lallana, Markovic, Ballotelli are what you want. Slot those in amongst Allen, Gerrard and Henderson, and my word do you have some quality. Droolworthy.
 
I agree with you as you agree with me then.

You do realise the only reason you signed who you signed this year is because you offered them more money than someone else did.

Same concept, it's just that our dick is much bigger than yours.
 
I'm sorry but the team you suggested is horribly imbalanced and just looks like a muppet formation to fit players in, rather than a formation that gets the best out of the team.

Please do explain...
 
Liverpool fans wanted him more than anything, there is so much envy from them (just watch Tommos interview). Before the summer, many of them were saying doesn't matter how much money you have got, you can't attract the best. One Di Maria and Falcao later and all of a sudden it's just because we have a load of money.

But hey, they got Ricky Lambert... Sit back and repeat... Ricky Lambert.
 
Don't get too worked up about it. Yes we can still sign world class players over you, even without European football. Thats just the way it is. Embrace it.

To be fair, he's not likely to embrace it, but boy is he working hard to ignore it. He probably wakes in the wee small hours with the words "Radamel Falcao is a United player" echoing in his head before he reaches for the Xanax! :)
 
Where there is no CL, no Europa and no chance of a PL title. But there's money. Huge pots of money. Honey.

Ribery joined Bayern in a season when they had no CL. Ronaldinho joined Barca when they were in the same situation. Us, Real, Barca and Bayern are the four most prestigious teams in the world. Players will be willing to join us even if we are going through a bit of a transition because of who we are. On the other hand a team like Liverpool have struggled to attract top players despite the fact they have CL football the offer. In a straight choice between us and Liverpool, even when ye can offer CL football, we are more attractive. The reason for this is because coming in the top 4 isn't the norm for you lot. Players are wary of this. They won't be willing to join a club for the sake of one season of CL football if there is a decent chance they could go a number of subsequent years without it. It's the same reason Everton and Spurs couldn't attract top players when they came in the top 4.

In the long run we are a safe bet in terms of future success. Us coming outside the top 4 was as much of a surprise as Liverpool getting in the top 4 was. There is a reason why bookies had us as the 3rd favourites for the title before the start of the season. There is a reason why Samir Nasri named us and Chelsea as City's main rivals for the league this season despite us getting off to a poor start. Coming 7th for one season doesn't make us a mid-table team although people will have you think otherwise. Liverpool were a mid-table team as they consistently came outside the top 6. We have only done that once in the history of the PL. We don't release books celebrating 2nd place because we are used to winning things. It is this that attracts the likes of Falcao. It's a rule of thumb that if you join Manchester United you win things. That's what attracts the top players. One poor season will not put them off. Same goes for Barcelona, Real and Bayern. We've only gone one season without winning the league not 24.
 
Ribery joined Bayern in a season when they had no CL. Ronaldinho joined Barca when they were in the same situation. Us, Real, Barca and Bayern are the four most prestigious teams in the world. Players will be willing to join us even if we are going through a bit of a transition because of who we are. On the other hand a team like Liverpool have struggled to attract top players despite the fact they have CL football the offer. In a straight choice between us and Liverpool, even when ye can offer CL football, we are more attractive. The reason for this is because coming in the top 4 isn't the norm for you lot. Players are wary of this. They won't be willing to join a club for the sake of one season of CL football if there is a decent chance they could go a number of subsequent years without it. It's the same reason Everton and Spurs couldn't attract top players when they came in the top 4.

In the long run we are a safe bet in terms of future success. Us coming outside the top 4 was as much of a surprise as Liverpool getting in the top 4 was. There is a reason why bookies had us as the 3rd favourites for the title before the start of the season. There is a reason why Samir Nasri named us and Chelsea as City's main rivals for the league this season despite us getting off to a poor start. Coming 7th for one season doesn't make us a mid-table team although people will have you think otherwise. Liverpool were a mid-table team as they consistently came outside the top 6. We have only done that once in the history of the PL. We don't release books celebrating 2nd place because we are used to winning things. It is this that attracts the likes of Falcao. It's a rule of thumb that if you join Manchester United you win things. That's what attracts the top players. One poor season will not put them off. Same goes for Barcelona, Real and Bayern. We've only gone one season without winning the league not 24.

Good post. No need to keep feeding the bitter troll, though. Envy, eh. I swear, I would rather Lallana / Balotelli than Di Maria / Falcao. Righteo.
 
Good post. No need to keep feeding the bitter troll, though. Envy, eh. I swear, I would rather Lallana / Balotelli than Di Maria / Falcao. Righteo.

It's impossible to tell with Liverpool fans whether they are being serious or not. Bear in mind this is the set of supporters who think they have a chance of winning the league at the start of every season despite the fact they have not won it for ages and generally struggle to get in the top 4. Without doubt the most delusional fans on the planet.
 
Exactly this. Some would prefer Di Maria and Falcao, but Can, Lambert, Lallana, Markovic, Ballotelli are what you want. Slot those in amongst Allen, Gerrard and Henderson, and my word do you have some quality. Droolworthy.

Sterling, Lallana, Lovren and Henderson would improve our team though. Sterling & Lallana replacing Young/Valencia, Lovren replacing Jones/Evans/Smalling, Henderson replacing Fletcher/Anderson.

Sadly, such world-class players of this quality wouldn't be available in the next transfer window because Liverpool already bought them.

All we're left with would be possible transfers with overpriced and old defenders and midfielders who no one rates. You know, players like Falcao and Di Maria who should be in retirement homes. Or those who don't even deserve to play a single match, players of so low class like Herrera and Rojo.
 
Please do explain...
No width whatsover, and if Di Maria/Herrera do push out wide, it leaves Blind in the middle on him self.. Teams will walk through our midfield if we try to go wide, and destroy us on the wings if they tuck inside. It's 433-4231 or nothing.
 
I love how when Liverpool sign "World Class" talents they are utter cnuts such as Suarez amd Balotelli yet the ones we sign are always very humble like RVP, Mata, Di Maria and Falcao. I know what I prefer
 
Inuries define careers. Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't be as lauded as they have been if they were not as freakishly injury-free as they were at their peak. Maybe Aguero would be seen as as at their level if he was as injury free. But he has not been, and thats football.

Knowing that your main striker will probably be injured again soon is not very comforting even if you know he's deadly on the days he is available. Even in the games he does not score in he'd surely be contributing.

I'd rather Falcao scored 15 goals in 30 games for us and avoid injuries, than score 20 goals in an injury hit season where he only plays 20 games. The strike rate might be more impressive, but I'd prefer consistency to the team, knowing he is always available, and I'm sure he'd be contributing mightily to the team even when he does not score just by terrifying defenders and freeing others.
Smart and sensible outlook lad! Totally agree.
 
No width whatsover, and if Di Maria/Herrera do push out wide, it leaves Blind in the middle on him self.. Teams will walk through our midfield if we try to go wide, and destroy us on the wings if they tuck inside. It's 433-4231 or nothing.

What you are effectively saying is that the 41212 diamond does not work, yet multiple teams have shown it can, including Liverpool and Chelsea in the past.

You are right, either Herrera OR Di Maria can go out wide and the other can remain back. They both have the engine, work rate and talent to do this. On paper, City have no width with Silva and Nasri, but they do well. Arsenal play Ozil on the wing.

It sure as hell would be better than the 352 we have at the minute and we do not have the wide players to play a 4231 or a 433. Di Maria's best position is at CM, so by putting him on the wing, we are limiting his impact. He was a very good winger, but a world class CM.

We also have 3 top class strikers, so I cannot see LVG playing with only one striker, so at least this formation is realistic. It is a 433, of sorts, and any formation can work with the right players. We have the right players for a 41212.

If you actually look at the players we have, it makes a lot of sense.
 
What you are effectively saying is that the 41212 diamond does not work, yet multiple teams have shown it can, including Liverpool and Chelsea in the past.

You are right, either Herrera OR Di Maria can go out wide and the other can remain back. They both have the engine, work rate and talent to do this. On paper, City have no width with Silva and Nasri, but they do well. Arsenal play Ozil on the wing.

It sure as hell would be better than the 352 we have at the minute and we do not have the wide players to play a 4231 or a 433. Di Maria's best position is at CM, so by putting him on the wing, we are limiting his impact. He was a very good winger, but a world class CM.

We also have 3 top class strikers, so I cannot see LVG playing with only one striker, so at least this formation is realistic. It is a 433, of sorts, and any formation can work with the right players. We have the right players for a 41212.

If you actually look at the players we have, it makes a lot of sense.
I'm not saying it doesn't work. But teams that have successfully used it have been very unique and 'complete' so to speak. And you're wrong in saying we have the right players for a 4-1-2-1-2, it's just the easiest formation to fit all of our 'star' players in which makes people automatically assume it's the best.

Di Maria is first and foremost a winger, he had a brilliant season as CM for Madrid that's right, but that's for Madrid with wide players such as Ronaldo/Bale, CM's such as Khedira/Alonso/Modric and an all around striker in Benzema. He will be ineffective for us in such a role, we lack the squad quality of Madrid. 4-3-3 will work for us much more than 4-1-2-1-2, you need to think of rotation, injurys and form, you really think all of our players will be fit all season to allow us to play a 4-1-2-1-2 in the first place? As soon as 2-3 of them are gone the 4-1-2-1-2 becomes IMPOSSIBLE to play. Also our front men are primarily lone strikers, I can't see any of them being able to work in front two for us.

4-3-3



De Gea

Rafael/Valencia - Jones/Evans - Rojo/Smalling - Shaw/Rojo

Blind/Carrick/Fletcher

Herrera/Carrick/Fletcher - Mata/Rooney/Di Maria

Di Maria/Young - Falcao/RvP - Januzaj/Young
 
I'm not saying it doesn't work. But teams that have successfully used it have been very unique and 'complete' so to speak. And you're wrong in saying we have the right players for a 4-1-2-1-2, it's just the easiest formation to fit all of our 'star' players in which makes people automatically assume it's the best.

Di Maria is first and foremost a winger, he had a brilliant season as CM for Madrid that's right, but that's for Madrid with wide players such as Ronaldo/Bale, CM's such as Khedira/Alonso/Modric and an all around striker in Benzema. He will be ineffective for us in such a role, we lack the squad quality of Madrid. 4-3-3 will work for us much more than 4-1-2-1-2, you need to think of rotation, injurys and form, you really think all of our players will be fit all season to allow us to play a 4-1-2-1-2 in the first place? As soon as 2-3 of them are gone the 4-1-2-1-2 becomes IMPOSSIBLE to play. Also our front men are primarily lone strikers, I can't see any of them being able to work in front two for us.

4-3-3



De Gea

Rafael/Valencia - Jones/Evans - Rojo/Smalling - Shaw/Rojo

Blind/Carrick/Fletcher

Herrera/Carrick/Fletcher - Mata/Rooney/Di Maria

Di Maria/Young - Falcao/RvP - Januzaj/Young

You do realise that the only difference between a 3-5-2 and a 4-1-2-1-2 Diamond is that we have a very deep CDM instead of an extra CB? The full backs in such a system are still expected to essentially act as wing backs, providing the majority of the width while the CDM( Blind or Carrick) will basically just act as an advanced CB. LVG will probably play the 4-1-2-1-2 and refer to it as a 3-5-2 in the same way he refers to a 4-2-3-1 as a 4-3-3. It's just a more attacking variant of the 3-5-2 due to the extra midfielder who in a diamond is really more of a midfielder/defender hybrid and is the man who while bring the ball out of the defense more often than not.

Also Di Maria will play in a 4-1-2-1-2 will play in almost the exact same kind of role as he did in Madrid, as a winger/midfielder hybird. He's very effective there and it is hands down his best position as long as he has two midfielders capable of covering the space he has left behind, which we now have. As others have said he could be an amazing winger but was incredibly inconsistent there and somewhat frustrating. We need more squad depth in the winger positions to make a 4-3-3 possible anyway and as of now we only have Di Maria, Januzaj and Wilson who are really capable of doing a job there. Arguably Mata and Rooney can fit in on either wing but I don't think it will work and would be a massive waste of both of their talent. Young/Valencia shouldn't ever play there again- it would be like having 1 winger.

Can you also tell me my future? You seem to know everything
 
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Ribery joined Bayern in a season when they had no CL. Ronaldinho joined Barca when they were in the same situation. Us, Real, Barca and Bayern are the four most prestigious teams in the world. Players will be willing to join us even if we are going through a bit of a transition because of who we are. On the other hand a team like Liverpool have struggled to attract top players despite the fact they have CL football the offer. In a straight choice between us and Liverpool, even when ye can offer CL football, we are more attractive. The reason for this is because coming in the top 4 isn't the norm for you lot. Players are wary of this. They won't be willing to join a club for the sake of one season of CL football if there is a decent chance they could go a number of subsequent years without it. It's the same reason Everton and Spurs couldn't attract top players when they came in the top 4.

In the long run we are a safe bet in terms of future success. Us coming outside the top 4 was as much of a surprise as Liverpool getting in the top 4 was. There is a reason why bookies had us as the 3rd favourites for the title before the start of the season. There is a reason why Samir Nasri named us and Chelsea as City's main rivals for the league this season despite us getting off to a poor start. Coming 7th for one season doesn't make us a mid-table team although people will have you think otherwise. Liverpool were a mid-table team as they consistently came outside the top 6. We have only done that once in the history of the PL. We don't release books celebrating 2nd place because we are used to winning things. It is this that attracts the likes of Falcao. It's a rule of thumb that if you join Manchester United you win things. That's what attracts the top players. One poor season will not put them off. Same goes for Barcelona, Real and Bayern. We've only gone one season without winning the league not 24.
Great post and for this reason you will likely not get a response from your guy there, he loves Falcao and his brain is hurting.
 
Great post and for this reason you will likely not get a response from your guy there, he loves Falcao and his brain is hurting.

Cheers! :)


I didn't like him when he was at Arsenal at all, he is a vicious player when he wants to be.

Very good post beforehand by the way, not sure how you can argue against it.

I guess he has a bit of a nasty streak but so did Keane and he was my favourite United player when he was at the club so it doesn't really bother me. At long as he isn't a cnut 24/7 like Suarez I'll forgive him for the odd indiscretion. RVP was always one of my favourite non-United players when he was at Arsenal, and I obviously admire him even more now. I guess from my point of view his role in winning the 20th league title means he can do no wrong at this stage.

Cheers mate! I'm sure he'll give it a try. :p
 
Ribery joined Bayern in a season when they had no CL. Ronaldinho joined Barca when they were in the same situation. Us, Real, Barca and Bayern are the four most prestigious teams in the world. Players will be willing to join us even if we are going through a bit of a transition because of who we are. On the other hand a team like Liverpool have struggled to attract top players despite the fact they have CL football the offer. In a straight choice between us and Liverpool, even when ye can offer CL football, we are more attractive. The reason for this is because coming in the top 4 isn't the norm for you lot. Players are wary of this. They won't be willing to join a club for the sake of one season of CL football if there is a decent chance they could go a number of subsequent years without it. It's the same reason Everton and Spurs couldn't attract top players when they came in the top 4.

In the long run we are a safe bet in terms of future success. Us coming outside the top 4 was as much of a surprise as Liverpool getting in the top 4 was. There is a reason why bookies had us as the 3rd favourites for the title before the start of the season. There is a reason why Samir Nasri named us and Chelsea as City's main rivals for the league this season despite us getting off to a poor start. Coming 7th for one season doesn't make us a mid-table team although people will have you think otherwise. Liverpool were a mid-table team as they consistently came outside the top 6. We have only done that once in the history of the PL. We don't release books celebrating 2nd place because we are used to winning things. It is this that attracts the likes of Falcao. It's a rule of thumb that if you join Manchester United you win things. That's what attracts the top players. One poor season will not put them off. Same goes for Barcelona, Real and Bayern. We've only gone one season without winning the league not 24.
This is a very, very good post. Well done.
 
I can't believe we sold Danny superstar Welbeck and replaced him with this clown.. some right whoopers out there.
 
I can't believe we sold Danny superstar Welbeck and replaced him with this clown.. some right whoopers out there.

Aye, LVG is a clueless git. Replacing our 4th choice striker with a player that's scored 191 goals in 292 appearances. Shame on him!
 
I can't believe we sold Danny superstar Welbeck and replaced him with this clown.. some right whoopers out there.

Can't wait for Sunday for this guy to show all these Welbeck muppets what a world class striker actually looks like.
 
Aye, LVG is a clueless git. Replacing our 4th choice striker with a player that's scored 191 goals in 252 appearances. Shame on him!

It's not about that. Its that we sold a young home town player who is totally different to any of the strikers we have now. At only 23 he could flourish to become a top striker if given the chance, unfortunately for us he will have that chance at Arsenal now.
 
It's not about that. Its that we sold a young home town player who is totally different to any of the strikers we have now. At only 23 he could flourish to become a top striker if given the chance, unfortunately for us he will have that chance at Arsenal now.
He wouldn't have the chance to flourish being fourth choice though.
 
Aye, LVG is a clueless git. Replacing our 4th choice striker with a player that's scored 191 goals in 292 appearances. Shame on him!

He should have sold Rvp or Rooney rather then Welbeck.

No one is questioning the signing of Falcao. Its more who he's replaced.
 
He should have sold Rvp or Rooney rather then Welbeck.

No one is questioning the signing of Falcao. Its more who he's replaced.

Wilson looks a cracking talent, I hope he does well. Welbeck is an Arsenal player now and before those two standard England goals, everybody across the globe could see that we got the far better deal.
 
Wilson looks a cracking talent, I hope he does well. Welbeck is an Arsenal player now and before those two standard England goals, everybody across the globe could see that we got the far better deal.

Wilson might be great, who knows. Hope so though.

As for the better deal, I think Arsenal have got a cracker. The best deal would have been to sign Falcao, keep Welbeck, and flog one of RVP/Rooney.
 
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