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Sorry if this has been discussed to death on here before (I've been away with very sproadic internet access) but is Falcao completely out of the woods as far as that knee injury is concerned? It's the one thing that stops me from being incredibly excited about the coming season


It seems like he has gotten over it. He has played a few matches this year already and he seems to be moving without any problems.

Im guessing him, Di Maria and Rojo are back in training today?
 
Its annoying when rival fans keep mentioning his fee as EUR20m. When have people started adding the wages of an incoming player to determine their fee?

Are we doing the same for Chicha to Real or Torres to Milan, etc.?!
 
Whilst I'm 95% convinced he will be a success and that lvg must have a plan in mind to utilise all the attacking talent there is a small part of me that keeps thinking it could end up like Veron.

An undoubted talent and unquestionably one of the best in the world in his position.

But so are rooney and Rvp and just like when we tried to add Veron into an amazing midfield it could be detrimental to us.

I hope not but I have a nagging doubt until I can actually see it working
 
just like when we tried to add Veron into an amazing midfield it could be detrimental to us.

That was an amazing midfield. But what we've seen from RVP & Rooney up top together ( especially more recently ) has been far from an amazing attack.

Falcao will hopefully come in and offer something exciting and different up front.. And let's face it we fecking need it.
 
Whilst I'm 95% convinced he will be a success and that lvg must have a plan in mind to utilise all the attacking talent there is a small part of me that keeps thinking it could end up like Veron.

An undoubted talent and unquestionably one of the best in the world in his position.

But so are rooney and Rvp and just like when we tried to add Veron into an amazing midfield it could be detrimental to us.

I hope not but I have a nagging doubt until I can actually see it working
Falcao will be the first name on the team sheet as a number 9, it's a question of where the others will fit and not him.
 
Whilst I'm 95% convinced he will be a success and that lvg must have a plan in mind to utilise all the attacking talent there is a small part of me that keeps thinking it could end up like Veron.

An undoubted talent and unquestionably one of the best in the world in his position.

But so are rooney and Rvp and just like when we tried to add Veron into an amazing midfield it could be detrimental to us.

I hope not but I have a nagging doubt until I can actually see it working

Veron hardly set the world alight at Chelsea either. It simply just didn't work out for him in the Premier League.
 
Whilst I'm 95% convinced he will be a success and that lvg must have a plan in mind to utilise all the attacking talent there is a small part of me that keeps thinking it could end up like Veron.

An undoubted talent and unquestionably one of the best in the world in his position.

But so are rooney and Rvp and just like when we tried to add Veron into an amazing midfield it could be detrimental to us.

I hope not but I have a nagging doubt until I can actually see it working
We added Veron to a midfield of great quality and tried to change the system to accommodate him.

Rooney and RVP have been pretty poor for a while and we'll probably bench one of them so I think it's just a straightforward injection of quality.
 
Sorry if this has been discussed to death on here before (I've been away with very sproadic internet access) but is Falcao completely out of the woods as far as that knee injury is concerned? It's the one thing that stops me from being incredibly excited about the coming season

He played 3 games in Ligue One this season and scored twice. He also took off the proper time to rehab the knee as suggested by his specialists as opposed to Vidal who came back early.

Also, I'm not quite sure why people earlier in the thread label him as injury prone. The cruciate he did at Monaco was from a horror tackle, it didn't just buckle.

Either way, the fact that it's a loan means it's win win for us. He lights the league on fire, it's a permanent deal. He's a crock, we move on.
 
It seems like he has gotten over it. He has played a few matches this year already and he seems to be moving without any problems.

Im guessing him, Di Maria and Rojo are back in training today?

He played 3 games in Ligue One this season and scored twice. He also took off the proper time to rehab the knee as suggested by his specialists as opposed to Vidal who came back early.

Also, I'm not quite sure why people earlier in the thread label him as injury prone. The cruciate he did at Monaco was from a horror tackle, it didn't just buckle.

Either way, the fact that it's a loan means it's win win for us. He lights the league on fire, it's a permanent deal. He's a crock, we move on.

Thanks guys! I was chuffed when we signed him and even more so now.
 
Rvp should be benched. Rooney hasn´t been much better but atleast he seems to give a feck. We should not have sold Welbz, I really can´t believe that decision. Hopefully Wilson will make a push for the first-team. Falcao together with Di Maria, De Gea, Rojo and Herrera are the ones that should start week in week out.
 
He played 3 games in Ligue One this season and scored twice. He also took off the proper time to rehab the knee as suggested by his specialists as opposed to Vidal who came back early.

Also, I'm not quite sure why people earlier in the thread label him as injury prone. The cruciate he did at Monaco was from a horror tackle, it didn't just buckle.

Either way, the fact that it's a loan means it's win win for us. He lights the league on fire, it's a permanent deal. He's a crock, we move on.

what about his other injuries, were they also from horror tackles (genuine question - I'm curious?)
 
Somehow I don't like the words United and project in one line, it's so plastic.
Don't worry about it. It's a very European thing. The French & Spanish call everything a project. Falcao would have said that even if he joined Liverpool or West Ham or Subway. It's a positive statement about a particular phase in his life.
 
what about his other injuries, were they also from horror tackles (genuine question - I'm curious?)
I have just checked the last 5 seasons club games (since he came to europe) and for a comparison in that period he has played 197 times (and he was out for half of last season) whilst carrick (a player I don't consider to be injury prone and who has not had a long spell out) has played 212 times

So actually up to his bad injury he had played more games than carrick in the five years pervious - If you take into account interantionals he has actually played more games than carrick over the last five years even taking into account his half a season injury.

Now I do consider anybody coming off a long injury without having fully recaptured their previous form for a sustained period a risk... I also think the breakdown of his goals stats here highights another risk - especially those judging him by stats alone http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nchester-united-is-taking-a-risk-with-falcao/

But I don't see a player who is regularly injured - and as I say over 5 years the games played indicates he is certainly fit the vast majority of the time.
 
I have just checked the last 5 seasons club games (since he came to europe) and for a comparison in that period he has played 197 times (and he was out for half of last season) whilst carrick (a player I don't consider to be injury prone and who has not had a long spell out) has played 212 times

So actually up to his bad injury he had played more games than carrick in the five years pervious - If you take into account interantionals he has actually played more games than carrick over the last five years even taking into account his half a season injury.

Now I do consider anybody coming off a long injury without having fully recaptured their previous form for a sustained period a risk... I also think the breakdown of his goals stats here highights another risk - especially those judging him by stats alone http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nchester-united-is-taking-a-risk-with-falcao/

But I don't see a player who is regularly injured - and as I say over 5 years the games played indicates he is certainly fit the vast majority of the time.

:lol: why Carrick?

Either way you are right it was a bad injury rather than injury prone. Encouraging he has played 4 games to some degree this season and had the WC off to recover
 
Sorry if this has been discussed to death on here before (I've been away with very sproadic internet access) but is Falcao completely out of the woods as far as that knee injury is concerned? It's the one thing that stops me from being incredibly excited about the coming season
He got injured back in January. He didn't rush his return to play in the WC. He had surgery, rested and came back 6 months later. And he says he feels like before. He is confident he is back. We have to take his word for it. Our medical staff must have done their part. Im excited. You should be too.
 
:lol: why Carrick?

Either way you are right it was a bad injury rather than injury prone. Encouraging he has played 4 games to some degree this season and had the WC off to recover
Why Carrick... Well as i was looking for a player who wasn't injury prone I kind of ruled out our entire defence and fletcher / Rvp
there wasn't many outfield players left who get in the team when fit and are fit most of the time - unfortunately
Fingers crossed falcao turns out good and at least if Rvp suffers one of his all to frequent injuries we shouldn't suffer
 
:lol: why Carrick?

Either way you are right it was a bad injury rather than injury prone. Encouraging he has played 4 games to some degree this season and had the WC off to recover

Because apart from Carrick, how many of our outfield players have both a) played regularly and b) not missed loads of games through injury.

I'm not overly concerned by the injury. The thing that has me a little off about a permanent transfer is the combination of his age and the costs involved, but I guess we have the rest of the season to evaluate the benefits and negatives of a permanent move. (unless it is actually a cast-iron transfer under the guise of a loan so that Monaco can spread the cost for FFP - as has been suggested)
 
[QUOTE="sun_tzu, post: 16434958, member: 54643]"Now I do consider anybody coming off a long injury without having fully recaptured their previous form for a sustained period a risk... I also think the breakdown of his goals stats here highights another risk - especially those judging him by stats alone http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nchester-united-is-taking-a-risk-with-falcao/
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Damn you. I wish I hadn't read that :(

For context, let’s return to 2012-2013. Falcao’s 20 non-penalty goals put him even with Alvaro Negredo and Roberto Soldado, who had 21 and 19 non-penalty goals respectively that season. All three played huge minutes in the league, and they had roughly the same rates of non-penalty goal scoring. Negredo and Soldado were transferred to the English Premier League after those seasons, and neither particularly excelled.
 
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We are all in agreement that this is our best formation, right?

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No not really- that team has not played together yet so we cannot judge- not a chance all 6 new signings will start vs QPR fit or not- it will take time for all of them to bed in.
 
[QUOTE="sun_tzu, post: 16434958, member: 54643"Now I do consider anybody coming off a long injury without having fully recaptured their previous form for a sustained period a risk... I also think the breakdown of his goals stats here highights another risk - especially those judging him by stats alone http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nchester-united-is-taking-a-risk-with-falcao/



Really not that concerned - Falcao is on another level when it comes to his overall game and consistency compared to one season wonders like Soldado and Negredo.
 
Sorry if this has been discussed to death on here before (I've been away with very sproadic internet access) but is Falcao completely out of the woods as far as that knee injury is concerned? It's the one thing that stops me from being incredibly excited about the coming season

More or less... yes! As I said in this thread earlier, not everyone is an 'Owen Hargreaves' or an 'Alejandro Faurlin'. Look at good ol' Bebe. He got the same injury two years ago and the season after he was beast of a player for Pacos. Proper rehabilitation without risk is the key. Falcao was injured in January. He started rehab in February. He'd been doing that till June-early July. He had a full pre-season with Monaco. Played against Arsenal and scored. He's played three games for Monaco this season and scored twice. He underwent a severe medical at United, so much so that the he was tired for the friendly against Brazil. He's fit and fine. Also remember the players that usually don't recover are the ones where the knee just breaks down on its own. Falcao's was caused by another player in a match.

A lot of how footballers recover depends on the people around them. Falcao is taken care of by Jorge Mendes, who is known to take great care of his footballers. He even has a medical wing at his agency, Gestifute. Mendes spins money like Rumpelstiltskin and he would never do anything that would endanger one of his biggest money-making clients's long term future. Rest assured, Falcao is back for good. Oh btw, Bebe's agent is also Jorge Mendes. Connect the dots?
 
[QUOTE="sun_tzu, post: 16434958, member: 54643]"Now I do consider anybody coming off a long injury without having fully recaptured their previous form for a sustained period a risk... I also think the breakdown of his goals stats here highights another risk - especially those judging him by stats alone http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nchester-united-is-taking-a-risk-with-falcao/

Damn you. I wish I hadn't read that :(
Except neither Negredo nor Soldado are FALCAO! They were never even considered to be among the top #9s of the world let alone the best #9.
 
I usually a fan of big signings coming of the bench for the huge applause they get in the second half. But considering our circumstances right now, RVP can come of the bench especially since he played in internationals this week as well. We need Falcao to start.
 
[QUOTE="sun_tzu, post: 16434958, member: 54643]"Now I do consider anybody coming off a long injury without having fully recaptured their previous form for a sustained period a risk... I also think the breakdown of his goals stats here highights another risk - especially those judging him by stats alone http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nchester-united-is-taking-a-risk-with-falcao/

Damn you. I wish I hadn't read that :([/QUOTE]

I wouldn't read too much into that, his benefit is that he only needs one chance, not 3 or 4.
 
Its annoying when rival fans keep mentioning his fee as EUR20m. When have people started adding the wages of an incoming player to determine their fee?

Are we doing the same for Chicha to Real or Torres to Milan, etc.?!

People will write just about anything to make us look stupid as of late.' Manchester United need spend on 4/5 world class players' turning into 'Manchester United have over spent/lost their identity'. I got annoyed for a while mainly with the complete ignorance with which they were writing.Another one is how many posts/articles have I seen lambasting us for supposedly buying three LB's in Shaw, Blind and Rojo. The fact none of them actually even refer to the fact that the latter two play better elsewhere is either just a show of ignorance or choosing to ignore simple facts in order to make us look stupid. As for Falcao I feel he was bought because LVG is not happy with the Mata, Rooney/RVP combination and we are unlikely to see the three play together again unless Falcao has a bad run of form or gets injured. He will also stir up some much needed healthy competition between them up front where before they were likely to think their position in the first XI was set in stone.

I've learnt to find it quite funny that everyone is putting so much effort into making us look like tossers. There's no way to win either. If we get back in to form and win the title next season for instance, it will be because we 'bought the league' and if we don't people will laugh that we wasted so much money to no avail. I'm actually really looking forward to the big games this season. I think we might surprise a few. It would be nice to have some bragging rights which we haven't really enjoyed ever since Fergie left.
 
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I usually a fan of big signings coming of the bench for the huge applause they get in the second half. But considering our circumstances right now, RVP can come of the bench especially since he played in internationals this week as well. We need Falcao to start.
Yep, we need to scare the shit out of these lot right from when the teamsheets are out.
 
No not really- that team has not played together yet so we cannot judge- not a chance all 6 new signings will start vs QPR fit or not- it will take time for all of them to bed in.

Using that logic, we would continue with Young, Fletcher and Valencia in a 352, purely because we have seen them play together.

Also, that post, made 19 pages ago, was not about the QPR game but was merely to generally show a balanced formation in which each of our best players can play in their best position.

Obviously we cannot know for sure what our best team will be, but then we don't know how well the new players will integrate with the old ones in general.
 
Using that logic, we would continue with Young, Fletcher and Valencia in a 352, purely because we have seen them play together.

Also, that post, made 19 pages ago, was not about the QPR game but was merely to generally show a balanced formation in which each of our best players can play in their best position.

Obviously we cannot know for sure what our best team will be, but then we don't know how well the new players will integrate with the old ones in general.

I presume Better than the old ones with each other. Honestly, how could it get worse? :lol:
 
Fair enough, it kind of almost makes him a footballing non-entity. Just a piece of unfortunate luggage. Either way, all fans of opposing teams can see is a footballer with no ambition.

No ambition? He just joined Manchester United. You are breathtakingly well named.
 
The whole lying about his age thing surfaced some time ago and was then denied.
 
Where there is no CL, no Europa and no chance of a PL title. But there's money. Huge pots of money. Honey.

It's still Manchester United. One season without Europe. Since the ban on English clubs was lifted (1990–1991) United have been in Europe every season bar this one. One season in 24 years! You honestly think we won't be back? Or that Falcao won't do his part to help us get back? Players who join huge clubs don't do so if they lack ambition. It's kind of the definition of being ambitious.

But by responding I'm feeding a particularly envious troll aren't I?
 
Where there is no CL, no Europa and no chance of a PL title. But there's money. Huge pots of money. Honey.

LOL

If only we had CL football. The big names like Lallana would have looked our way.

Falcao and most of the world know that last year was an anomaly. Liverpool fans are, understandably, in denial.
 
Where there is no CL, no Europa and no chance of a PL title. But there's money. Huge pots of money. Honey.
Didn't you enquire about Falcao? Well according to Ben Smith of the BBC you did. I think he said you were told "no chance".

:lol:
 
Where there is no CL, no Europa and no chance of a PL title. But there's money. Huge pots of money. Honey.

My 5 year old also likes to sometimes say ridiculous things and act silly when he wants unnecessary attention.

We ignore it.
 
Using that logic, we would continue with Young, Fletcher and Valencia in a 352, purely because we have seen them play together.

Also, that post, made 19 pages ago, was not about the QPR game but was merely to generally show a balanced formation in which each of our best players can play in their best position.

Obviously we cannot know for sure what our best team will be, but then we don't know how well the new players will integrate with the old ones in general.
I'm sorry but the team you suggested is horribly imbalanced and just looks like a muppet formation to fit players in, rather than a formation that gets the best out of the team.
 
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