Wouldn't it have been a good idea to explain this before the game?
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Wouldn't it have been a good idea to explain this before the game?
Yeah, agree with all of that. Thinking about what I just typed just made me go off on one in another thread too...
I agree with most of that.
The main talk in the stands before and during the match was the absence of Falcao. Everyone seemed shocked and disappointed. The same on the coach home. Falcao might have offered something different and might have nicked a goal. It's all ifs and buts of course, but personally at the very minimum I would have had him on the bench. Maybe Falcao could have started over RvP who has hardly been in world beating form lately. Why he didn't start instead of Di Maria who is just back from injury and not a striker I don't know. Di Maria could have been put in midfield. But considering LvG said he still doesn't know ADM's best position it's hardly surprising. It just all seemed a bit confusing.
You can understand him wanting pace down the middle, someone who can run at the opposition, break quickly, run in behind etc. but Di Maria has never proven himself to be much of a goalscorer. I think Van Gaal knows Di Maria's best position is in midfield. It's just a position he's reluctant to play him in as he's a player whose risk play he can't temper.
It'll be interesting to see if he gives Falcao a chance up top on his own if Van Persie is injured. We haven't seen it yet despite it being the position he made such a star name for himself in.. We've seen him hesitate multiple times this season with his runs and you can't help but wonder if it's a case of him and Van Persie going for the same balls, not wanting to tread on eachothers toes etc. I'd be interested to see how his movement changes if he's given a chance up top on his own.
It'll be interesting to see if he gives Falcao a chance up top on his own if Van Persie is injured. We haven't seen it yet despite it being the position he made such a star name for himself in.. We've seen him hesitate multiple times this season with his runs and you can't help but wonder if it's a case of him and Van Persie going for the same balls, not wanting to tread on eachothers toes etc. I'd be interested to see how his movement changes if he's given a chance up top on his own.
The whole thing is confusing to be honest! He should have been on the bench yesterday (and could have replaced RvP after injury). I can't believe this was a tactical/merited omission really.
If he needed a rest, there was plenty of opportunity (e.g. Yeovil). If he's injured then why the cover up?
If he needed a rest, there was plenty of opportunity (e.g. Yeovil). If he's injured then why the cover up?
Yeah I suppose so, but Falcao and RvP had looked ok recently. Given the short amount of time they have played together some could say they looked more comfortable than Rooney and RvP who have had a couple of years together and never gelled.
As said Ad nauseum by myself and others here. Confusing
For every Krull decision there is one like this.
The funny thing is, at this rate we might aswell have kept Welbeck
He is arguably a better scorer/CF than Di Maria will ever be, so it's really looking like a complete balls up doing this. I am no Welbeck fanboy but it just seems a baffling decision if he wanted pace?.I'm not ready to say Falcao's United career is over like some are predicting. If RvP's ankle injury is serious enough, Falcao will get a run of games as the main striker in his place. He scores a few goals over that period and the narrative over his future changes.
Well RvP hasn't travelled to Ballon d'Or so it must be quite sore this morning! As long as Falcao is indeed fit, he will be in the squad (and most likely starting) vs. QPR.
If not then he can start worrying
He should have been a sub yesterday but I doubt he would have made much difference, he relies on service and there was hardly any all game. The reality has probably dawned now that paying a big fee and huge wages to a player whose best days are behind him and offers nothing different to what we already have would be a huge mistake.
Hopefully he knocks in a few goals between now and the end of the season but once the loan finishes we should send him back to Monaco and let him try his luck elsewhere. Rooney and RVP don't have that many years left in them so adding another guy who is in the same boat would make no sense.
Hopefully he knocks in a few goals between now and the end of the season but once the loan finishes we should send him back to Monaco and let him try his luck elsewhere. Rooney and RVP don't have that many years left in them so adding another guy who is in the same boat would make no sense.
I would rather any minutes we give Falcao from now onwards to be given to Januzaj if we aren't going to sign Radamel.
I can see where you're coming from, long-term, but the need to achieve top-4 will out.
Sometimes I wish for the days of Tommy Doc, youth, pace, more youth and more pace.
Sometimes I wish for the days of Tommy Doc, youth, pace, more youth and more pace.
The funny thing is, at this rate we might aswell have kept Welbeck
Yeap. I agree. I don't claim to know football better than Louis but IMO we need pace and tempo in build up play, not pacy strikers. There needs to be more directness and speed in the way we move the ball around. Di Maria provides that directness, the dribbling, and the drive. Mata has started to become more involved in play and has the ability to link it all.
Anyone Else see that Tweet?
The now deleted tweet was:
@Falcao: Además Van Gaal lo ratificó en rueda d prensa y yo lo ratifiqué personalmente. Hay que filtrar lo q se dice y escribe desde acá.”//Aprendan
@Falcao: Además Van Gaal lo ratificó en rueda d prensa y yo lo ratifiqué personalmente. Hay que filtrar lo q se dice y escribe desde acá.”//Aprendan
English?
Basically saying Van Gaal said something in the press conference and he confirmed it. And not to believe everything you read.
In that case I don't believe what you have wrote
It's amazing how everyone has been saying "Oh, we'd better not sign him, waste of money" but then this place goes to buggery when he's dropped.
Well, he was dropped for James Wilson who isn't showing anything this season or, what's more baffling, he was actually dropped for three defenders on the bench while there were already 5 on the pitch (theoretically).
Better use him now as he is already here. While most of us agree that he's our 3rd best striker and for that, he's not worth the money he is valued. Not to mention that our 2nd best striker is considered to not be good enough.
I'd love to see him get a run in the side, but not partnering Van Persie, who if we're honest, has been very underwhelming this season. Falcao hasn't the set the league on fire, but he's hardly been given the chances that RVP has, and I feel he has more in him than RVP does at this point. Falcao with Rooney up-front could be interesting.
I would like to see Falcao get a run of games up front on his own in a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1. Having him and van Persie up top hasn't worked out and I don't see it ever working.
Dropping Falcao totally out of the squad against Southampton was a bizarre decision by van Gaal, he should have at least been on the bench.
Dropping Falcao totally out of the squad against Southampton was a bizarre decision by van Gaal, he should have at least been on the bench.
Agreed, if falcao is the lone striker in a 433 or 4231 setup we could see the best of him, id rather him than RVP get a run of games at this point ... rvp`s best is behind him IMO.
van Persie had a bit of form going but has dropped off again. Falcao has three goals in eight starts playing with another striker which doesn't suit him. So yeah he has underperformed but you wonder how many goals he would grab if he had a run of games as a lone striker. Players like Mata, Di Maria and Rooney around him with the freedom to roam in the box without worrying about getting in van Persie's way. That would be a turnng point in my opinion but unfortunately I don't see van Gaal giving him the chance.
If we sell RVP in the summer and buy either a pacy forward or winger it would do us a world of good, but I'm sure LVG/Woodie have serious transfer targets lined up...we should be expected to challenge for the title next season.
No one is going to pay more than 20m for this guy in the summer the price we agreed in the summer is massively inflated and so are his wages don't see any club matching what he is on now.
In the summer he will be six months away from turning 30, probably not have proved he is over his injury and not had a good season for two years, Monaco are also desperate to sell. There won't be many takers unless he is exceptional between now and end of season and even then when you take everything into consideration he is expensive at anything over 20m.
In the summer he will be six months away from turning 30, probably not have proved he is over his injury and not had a good season for two years, Monaco are also desperate to sell. There won't be many takers unless he is exceptional between now and end of season and even then when you take everything into consideration he is expensive at anything over 20m.
If he is willing to be backup (or compete with) Rooney for the ST position next year I wouldn't mind taking him over RVP.
Not for 45m mate, no way.
Agreed not for 45M...but Monaco cannot expect to seriously get that price for him now...he can be gotten for about 30M IMO.
30m is still to much for his current from. I wouldn't pay anything over 20m and he will have to take a massive wage cut. Unless he is absolutely unreal between now and the end of the season.
City paid 30M for Bony so 30M for Falcao seems about right, but I forgot about his wages, which are apparently astronomical so it makes his acquisition much less attractive...we'll see how the rest of the season shapes up.
I just hope LVG's fascination with the 3-5-2 and insistence to play RVP up top doesn't cost us a Champions League spot.
Depends how he performs for the rest of the season. He is obviously better than we have seen so far but I think he has been improving. I sympathise with him and Van Persie to a certain extent because they simply aren't getting the service they need.
I can't see us paying out £46m regardless of what happens, but in all honestly I wouldn't be surprised if we had already concluded the deal last summer, and the loan thing was for FFP purposes. The way we have used him so far this season either suggests that Van Gaal doesn't really rate him or we are managing him back to 100% very carefully. If its the latter that would suggest a longer-term strategy.
Even though I would say City overpaid, are you really going to compare him to the EPL top scorer for 2014 who is also 4 years younger?
If that is the case Woodward could come out of this looking pretty foolish. Again.
Falcao was the best #9 in the world before his injury IMO, his past exploits alone warrant his price, even if he is out of form.
If he played as lone striker with wingers around him feeding him the ball it could be a different scenario...even ADM doesnt look his usual self in the 352.
I think Woodie has redeemed himself after last summer. Cant wait to see who he and LVG have lined up for this summer... our CB/CM transfers should be very interesting.
I'm not doubting his potential or past ability, but in football form dictates your price tag.
EDIT: If he had a bad 6 months or season I would agree, but hes not been himself for about 1.5/2 years, thats a long time.
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