Quaresma leaving Porto

he has got talent... and if he plays in the world cup and turns it on for a few games maybee he will go to a "top club"... but unless that happens im not sure a so called top club will take the chance with him?

I could see portgese clubs wanting him as they know what a success he can be in that league but im just not sure i could see a top premiership, seria a or la liga side taking a punt on a player who will be 27 next season

If he goes at Everton and does well there then a big club may try to sign him up. What he needs is a decent first team run in a team who actually know how to play with flank men.

I guess jose wanted him to add more to his game

Its not exactly that. When Jose went to Inter he wanted to introduce a new tactic (for Inter) which relied on the flanks (I think it was our type of 4 - 4 - 2 system, but Im not sure about it). That's why he had invested alot in both Mancini and Quaresema. Unfortunately he soon noticed the Inter setup refused such tactic and both Quaresema and Mancini ended up on the bench.
 
At this rate, he will be in the MLS by next year
 
devilish have you ever actually seen Quaresma play for Inter?

He struggled alot in Italy during his first season and this season he hardly played at all about 3 first appearances. Anyway the same views where shared by Mourinho himself on an italian programme (Chambretti night).
 
Besiktas have announced him. Bought him for 7.3 million euros. I had some hopes he came back to Portugal to try and do something useful, he's still 26 years old. But the 4th in the Turkish League must have been a more appealing idea for him...
 
I think he's finally found his level, maybe I'm being too kind?

What happened with him at Inter/Chelsa was too bad... Nothing explains it, I never saw a player go downhill so fast and abruptly as him.

Mentality problems certainly. If he had half the perseverance and will to succeed of Cristiano Ronaldo he would be world class.

All that to say I think his level depends on how hard he wants to try. If he does his best, he's worth a lot more than Besiktas, but if he maintains his current apathy I think not even there he'll do averagely ok.

Him at Porto was sensational, for 3 seasons. So at the very least, that's his level.
 
He's probably getting paid a shedload. But in football terms, he should have gone back to Porto, that was where he shone and where he has the best chance to break into the Portugal side. He just strikes me as one of those players who thrives at smaller clubs but can't hack it for a top team.
 
:lol::lol: this guy's career should be mentioned to young kind when they're learning their football in academies

I think 99.5% of kids at academies wouldn't mind being a 7 million pound transfer to a huge club in Turkey.
 
I think 99.5% of kids at academies wouldn't mind being a 7 million pound transfer to a huge club in Turkey.

That's not the point.Lack of stability has killed his career.Money is not the problem as he'd have earned wherever he'd go but trophies and leaving a name when you retire is also important when you're aspiring to be a footballer.
 
That's not the point.Lack of stability has killed his career.Money is not the problem as he'd have earned wherever he'd go but trophies and leaving a name when you retire is also important when you're aspiring to be a footballer.

Maybe he was never that good, plus being a retard should be a part of ability because it destroys your decision making
 
Maybe he was never that good, plus being a retard should be a part of ability because it destroys your decision making

He was very good.

He averaged 15 assists (and about 8 goals) per season in the Portuguese League.

Yes, he was a showboater, but his decision making wasn't that bad. He clearly changed at Inter, I have no idea what happened as I didn't follow it closely, but he was a cracking player.
 
Is Quaresma the new Anelka?

Sporting Lisbon
Barcelona
FC Porto
Inter Milan
Chelsea
Besiktas

You mean a journeyman? Yes he is.

It's a shame because i've always believed in his talent. He just doesnt have the right mentality to succeed at the highest level. The likes of Ronaldo and Nani(hopefully) seem to be made of much tougher stuff in comparison.
 
He was very good.

He averaged 15 assists (and about 8 goals) per season in the Portuguese League.

Yes, he was a showboater, but his decision making wasn't that bad. He clearly changed at Inter, I have no idea what happened as I didn't follow it closely, but he was a cracking player.

I'd hate to sound like one of those lads who bash Zlatan but from what I've seen of him I really don't like him. He's the kind of player, that when the space opens up for him to attack, he turns backwards so it closes and the opportunity is gone.

It's a great sign of retardation but I'd take your word for it that he was sensational for Porto although it's unusual for players to become stupider as they gain more experience.
 
I'd hate to sound like one of those lads who bash Zlatan but from what I've seen of him I really don't like him. He's the kind of player, that when the space opens up for him to attack, he turns backwards so it closes and the opportunity is gone.

It's a great sign of retardation but I'd take your word for it that he was sensational for Porto although it's unusual for players to become stupider as they gain more experience.

Well, unless you saw him playing for Porto, you have all the reasons not to like him, because that's the only place where he really shone, apart from Sporting but there he was just a young prospect.

I didn't saw much of him at Inter, but the few I saw, and it was in the beginning of his stint there, was dire. If I hadn't seen more than 100 games of him before I'd also say he's shit (well, he indeed IS shit, I just mean that at some point he wasn't and is currently well bellow his potential, he had everything to be world class and lost it all).
 
Well, unless you saw him playing for Porto, you have all the reasons not to like him, because that's the only place where he really shone, apart from Sporting but there he was just a young prospect.

I didn't saw much of him at Inter, but the few I saw, and it was in the beginning of his stint there, was dire. If I hadn't seen more than 100 games of him before I'd also say he's shit (well, he indeed IS shit, I just mean that at some point he wasn't and is currently well bellow his potential, he had everything to be world class and lost it all).

Yeah he was bad for Inter, as in really really bad, the fans even turned to booing him at one point, I read somewhere that fans did that to him on one occasion at Porto too? I'm guessing that was a non-football related incident
 
Yeah he was bad for Inter, as in really really bad, the fans even turned to booing him at one point, I read somewhere that fans did that to him on one occasion at Porto too? I'm guessing that was a non-football related incident

He was booed occasionally, specially in his last season, he had "slow" games as well, and since the team was too reliant on him, when he wasn't in top form our games where usually shit. That means little though, our fans are a bit spastic and boo too easily, we also have a smaller scale of glory-hunting in a national level, considering our superb Mourinho times.
 
The living embodiment of everything wrong with the transfer muppetry on this forum. Flair, tick. Tricks, tick. Fancy name, tick. OMG future best player in the world ever!!!!!!!!
 
Arruda what do you think of Quaresma's pace? Contrary to what most people say I don't think the Mustang is that fast?

Then again I didn't think Nani was at one point untill I saw him rape Clichy.
Nani's not incredibly fast - Clichy is faster than him by quite a bit, but Nani just had Clichy in his pocket and pace wasn't enough to stop him.

Quaresma... Two-time Bidone d'Oro winner (nearly made it a hat-trick too!). I bet José is so proud of that signing.
 
His speed was average for a winger. When he needed to sprint towards the keeper one-on-one for example he could do it, but on the wings he rarely beat his opponents with pace alone, he always slowed down to try and dribble through them instead of past them.

I think he was faster when younger, at Sporting.

After watching what United did to Ronaldo and Nani I think this guy could be a world beater if he had gone there. There's something very good to youngsters that happen there. Of course Ronaldo's work ethic was his own and unique, but there's a lot Quaresma could have learned there that would make him a more complete player. He could joke around in here, being the star of the team and at the peak of his confidence, but when asked for directness he simply no longer knew how to. I think he's finished now, maybe a few more trivelas at Benfica or Sporting in a few years from now, but on top-level he's done.

Nani's not incredibly fast - Clichy is faster than him by quite a bit, but Nani just had Clichy in his pocket and pace wasn't enough to stop him.

Quaresma... Two-time Bidone d'Oro winner (nearly made it a hat-trick too!). I bet José is so proud of that signing.

Irony aside, José really can't go to blame for that blunder. I think any coach would take him at that price and at the level he was performing. Sometimes players just go missing like that...
 
Wasted talent, and basically an uncoachable player. He's been around some of the top clubs and for whatever reason they just can't harness his abilities. Something fundamentally wrong with the man, basically the European version of Denilson. That said, he'lll probably be good for Besiktas.
 
He's what parents will eventually tell their kids about as a nightmarish threat.

"If you don't eat your vegetables, you'll turn into Quaresma".