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Gaming PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X
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What the feck is this, one selective week of playtime vs lifetime sales I showed you?
Your argument is daft. Exclusives have been proven over and over to sell consoles, and are always amongst the highest selling games on them, It's why MS are spending billions and billions to get exclusives going forward, because they know they have to to compete.
It's not sales at all - it is gameplay. Which is a far better indicator of what people play, over what they spend money on.
That article saying those who own game pass play more games, spend more etc could just as easily be written as
Those who like to play more games, have a tendency to spend more on gaming, and who have a wider preference for playing different types of games, are also more likely to pay extra for a game pass subscription
The point here is, they are describing correlational relationships but insinuating that buying games pass causes those behaviors.
Just to be clear, I think games pass at current prices is a no brainer for gamers with an Xbox.
To properly test the potential causality, the methodology should not be comparing those with and without games pass. It should be looking at a group who all have game pass and whom all paid the same amount for it but whom have otherwise a range of differences in the other named factors such as income, time to play, genre preference etc.
Those who like to play more games, have a tendency to spend more on gaming, and who have a wider preference for playing different types of games, are also more likely to pay extra for a game pass subscription
The point here is, they are describing correlational relationships but insinuating that buying games pass causes those behaviors.
Just to be clear, I think games pass at current prices is a no brainer for gamers with an Xbox.
To properly test the potential causality, the methodology should not be comparing those with and without games pass. It should be looking at a group who all have game pass and whom all paid the same amount for it but whom have otherwise a range of differences in the other named factors such as income, time to play, genre preference etc.
Yes every game is a competitive multiplayer or an MMORPG, no such thing as a single player game that is absolutely amazing but you might only run through it twice.
They're all multiplayer games. Multiplayer games will naturally have more hours played than single player games that people will only play for a limited amount of time. That's just simple logic, unlike your logic which so far is;
- Majority of people want to play on Microsoft, despite majority of people buying anything but a Microsoft
- Exclusives don't matter, despite exclusives being amongst highest selling games and their consoles selling much more
- Playtime of gamepass is what matters most, despite all the games on your list being f2p, multiplayer games that don't need gamepass or aren't on it
I mean...
What is your last point referring to?They're all multiplayer games. Multiplayer games will naturally have more hours played than single player games that people will only play for a limited amount of time. That's just simple logic, unlike your logic which so far is;
- Majority of people want to play on Microsoft, despite majority of people buying anything but a Microsoft
- Exclusives don't matter, despite exclusives being amongst highest selling games and their consoles selling much more
- Playtime of gamepass is what matters most, despite all the games on your list being f2p, multiplayer games that don't need gamepass or aren't on it
I mean...
you're trying to claim that MS suits the majority of people better because it has gamepass, despite your own chart there proving that most games at the top of playtime lists are f2p games you don't need any sort of subscription like gamepass to play or can't be gotten on it. You've basically disproven your own point. Or are you trying to say MS is a better place to play those games, because that's also highly debatable.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ja...-shown-at-square-not-live-service-etc.439621/
Starfield apparently releasing in late 2022
Starfield apparently releasing in late 2022
Whatever, exclusives don't matter anyway.
It’ll be in PC so it’s not exclusive.
The thing I got from that is "Beyond Good and Evil 2 is still very very early in development.". Hasn't it been in development for about 3 or 4 years now?
I really, really want that game, but they're obviously having issues at the moment unfortunately.
We already know if it turns out great who will be the first person to tell us, the irony
That wasn't my point at all. I think gamepass suits the majority of console owners - who clearly mostly play these games - because it offers a huge variety of other games they can easily dip in and out off without spending more than a cup of coffee a month. They can play Xbox exclusives when and if they desire, whereas on the playstation they will require substantial purchases. When exclusives aren't the main draw, rather 3rd-party multiplayer games, Xbox makes the most sense for these people.
But they have access to PS Now which gives access to most of the same games, and some past PS exclusives.
Yeah, guess they went back to the drawing board.
A reply to the thread
And Schreier's response
This is the dumbest reasoning around. It assumes everyone has access to a high-end PC. When it isn't the case. Far from it.
But you're still wrong. Most of those games are either f2p or not on Gamepass! Aka if you don't want to buy them, gamepass is not a viable place to get them. If that chart was for the Xbox I guarantee feck all Gamepass games would even be on it, maybe Sea of Thieves, which is again, a multiplayer based game. Your article made no sense in the context of what you are failing to prove.
To be fair I think you're just on a WUM anyway because the logic is so dumb, it has to be.
I think maybe you are just struggling to understand what I'm saying. Because you are conflating things once more.
Here is Xbox
https://www.trueachievements.com/n45752/xbox-gameplay-chart
8 of the top 20 are on gamepass
https://www.trueachievements.com/n45752/xbox-gameplay-chart
8 of the top 20 are on gamepass
Returnal is exclusive to PS5. If it was available to buy on PC it would not be an exclusive. Ergo, Xbox has no exclusives.
so 60% of the games aren’t on gamepass. Which is a majority. Which is what @Massive Spanner said
"If that chart was for the Xbox I guarantee feck all Gamepass games would even be on it "
It only proves my point, the top 10 are basically like for like with the PS5. F2P or non game pass multiplayer games. Gamepass is a wonderful service, but very few people would pick a series X over a PS5 in order to have it, sales of both consoles have proven that. It's simply not a system seller, however it definitely could be in a few years if Microsoft start churning out proper AAA exclusives on to it, which again, shows the importance of exclusives. At some point I do expect the Series X to become a much more attractive proposition vs a PS5 but that will largely be due to big franchises like Bethesda and Kojima making exclusives for it, not gamepass as it currently is.
Right now, for the majority of gamers, who like to play popular multiplayer games with their mates and spend money on the odd quality single player game, gamepass is fairly irrelevant.
The best thing about this whole gamepass service is if it does take off and become great with solid microsoft exclusives, Sony could straight rip it off tomorrow and their line up would be superior instantly.
Agree with most of this besides the exclusives - which perhaps might partly explain why I plumped for Xbox!
Gamepass isn't just about the games.
good stuff lads, got meeting now bye
Not really though, you read too much into my comment I think. Calm down
So when's Persona coming to Xbox?
It'll come, right?
It'll come, right?
Great post
Games pass is about the.... correlations presented as causation
What if game pass is really about the friends we make along the way?
@altodevil having a mare here...
I'd like to think @altodevil meant gamepass is about the value of the games on offer, rather than the inherent draw value of any particular one/s.
Probably was on a wind-up though.
Probably was on a wind-up though.
It's the equivalent of going on RAWK and trying to say Man Utd are the better club, aka a pointless wum. I couldn't care less about the general opinion of this thread on a clearly subjective choice, it was just banter.
Nah you’ve been found out and thoroughly debunked.
Also - the gamepass service isn't just about the games - that point was serious.
Last night for instance, the other half wanted to try some portia game. While she was playing on the Xbox, I was able to continue my Gears 5 save on PC. Dead simple. I've bought just one game since getting a Series X last November.
Last night for instance, the other half wanted to try some portia game. While she was playing on the Xbox, I was able to continue my Gears 5 save on PC. Dead simple. I've bought just one game since getting a Series X last November.