Ps3 - the slim edition

They're both currently going for 249 over at amazon. I'll wait till the slim is shipped, might drive the fat's price even lower.
 
If anything, the fat might go higher in price as the availability dries up. They are never going to build one of those again.

I just wish that they'd give us a model in a separates case (like PSX) with RF TV, Sat and CAM inputs, 2xHDMI and four USB ports on the back, card readers back on the front with a nice little display and a proper disc tray, 1GB RAM etc. I'd pay 400-500 quid for that.

They have tried something similar before.

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Shouldn't really go on the dollar price. €299 is around 258 GBP at the moment, and I'm quite sure that SCEE will do all of their dealings in Euros, thus the current RRP of 249 GBP. I'd expect to be able to pick one up with a game though for that price come Christmas, with a stand alone closer to 200 GBP.
 
I may grab one, although my tv only has two HDMI ports and they're taken up with the xbox and sky. Ah well, no harm in pulling out a plug when i want to play on different consoles.

Will this be backwards compatible at all?
 
BC, no! There is no PS2 hardware in it, and they haven't released a software emulator for PS2 yet be it for technical reasons or that the PS2 is still selling well - sold 108k in the US for July compared to 122K for PS3. It's making them a lot of money, even propping up the PS3 business.
 
Fair enough, i've still got the old girl anyway. Have to set her up elsewhere to make room for this baby. Would feel odd to me playing Final Fantasy on the xbox, is that a good reason to spend £200? I think so.
 
If anything, the fat might go higher in price as the availability dries up. They are never going to build one of those again.

I just wish that they'd give us a model in a separates case (like PSX) with RF TV, Sat and CAM inputs, 2xHDMI and four USB ports on the back, card readers back on the front with a nice little display and a proper disc tray, 1GB RAM etc. I'd pay 400-500 quid for that.

They have tried something similar before.

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That's pretty cool, reminded me of when I wanted one of these.

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I like my fat PS3 but I'm glad they're revamping it and making it cheaper. The more people that buy one should mean more people to compete against online and greater longevity for the console.
 
I'm tempted to sell my 20gig one and get one of the new slimmer ones with 120gig.

I'd have to see one in the flesh and also make sure its still pretty much silent when in use though.
 
I'm tempted to sell my 20gig one and get one of the new slimmer ones with 120gig.

I'd have to see one in the flesh and also make sure its still pretty much silent when in use though.

Me too, though I have a 60GB, which I prefer the look of, however the noise of the fan is irritating and lets off a lot of heat.
 
So, there are no reasons to sell the old and get this one other than cosmetics?

Just want to be clear on this...
 
So, there are no reasons to sell the old and get this one other than cosmetics?

Just want to be clear on this...

Noise and heat reduction, more GBs depending on which versoin you already have.

If you have the 60GB you lose 2 USBs, the card reader, PS2 compatabilty and SACD i think?

Still dont understand why there is no USB on the back of the new one though :confused:
 
BC, no! There is no PS2 hardware in it, and they haven't released a software emulator for PS2 yet be it for technical reasons or that the PS2 is still selling well - sold 108k in the US for July compared to 122K for PS3. It's making them a lot of money, even propping up the PS3 business.

Rumors 'as I said' are inferring that 3.0 will include a change to the look of the XMB as well ps2 emulator software.

The only reason the ps2 is still selling, is because its a cheaper alternative, to the not so expensive 'anymore' ps3. With software emulation, those that have brought a ps2 and have a vast catalogue of game, will instinctively move towards the ps3, as the sales price of the ps3, deduces towards the end of ps2 production.
 
Great deal at amazon, you can get the 80gig with Terminator Salvation (the game) and Terminator 3 blu ray with either infamous or ghostbusters for free and then just £10 for another game

All for just £259.99
 
Yep, this is why I think the stand alone will be around 200 come Christmas time.

MS would be screwed if that happens, the one big thing they had over Sony was the price issue which is now only about £10 between the new PS3 and the Elite.

Time for Sony to own me thinks
 
MS would be screwed if that happens, the one big thing they had over Sony was the price issue which is now only about £10 between the new PS3 and the Elite.

Time for Sony to own me thinks

Yes, finally. PS3 is not perfect by any means, but at least Kutaragi and his team tried to innovate, they tried to make something on the edge rather than going for some off the shelf parts. I like that, maybe now they deserve some recognition for that. Now that it's at this price point I think that the world is their oyster especially with the first party stuff they have about to hit the shelves.
 
Yeah I'm really just fine with 40 GB. You can go through and delete the installs for the games that you no longer have so 40 GB is plenty.

40GB is nowhere near enough if you have a lot of PSN games and PlayTV like I do. I swapped my 60GB almost straight away. I don't store music, photos, or movies on my PS3, but it's about 100GB full as it is.
 
Some info on the slim ps3. Annoyingly Linux support has been dropped.

1. Available September 1, Prices Already Dropped (North America)
If you prefer your PS3 fat and glossy, the existing 80GB model has now dropped to $300—that's how much the new 120GB PS3 Slim will be in September. (The current 160GB PS3 has also been reduced, to $400.) And be on the look for bargains as retailers wind down stock: Today's Gadget Deals of the Day has an 80GB bundle that includes LittleBigPlanet and a Blu-ray copy of Wall-E for $299 (normally $400).

2. You'll Probably Want the Stand
As Jason said in his hands on, the Slim isn't really stable enough to balance vertically without its stand. Problem is, the stand is sold separately, and at $24, seems over priced. You also won't be able to pick one up until 2 days after the PS3 Slim first goes on sale. Expect to eventually see third-party alternatives in a Skittles-rainbow of colors.

3. Hard Drive Upgrades
As we've mentioned, FCC records indicate that Sony may also have plans for 150GB and 250GB versions of the PS3 120GB. Either way, it only takes one screw (now located under the front, instead of the side) to swap in your own SATA laptop hard disk (and doing so won't avoid the warranty).

4. PS3 3.0 Firmware Not Initially Pre-Installed
That's because it's released on September 1, the same day the Slim goes on sale. So to get the 3.0 Firmware goodness, you'll need to sit through a software update out of the box. Sony says it'll preinstall 3.x in later units. Sounds fair to me.

5. It Won't Play Your Old PlayStation 2 Games
That won't be returning," Sony's John Koller recently confirmed. Likely not a big deal unless you've got a massive collection of PS2 titles that you don't want to part with. If so, the launch PS3s with hardware PS2 Emotion Engine are your best bet (for greater compatibility), but the second-generation 60- and 80GB models will also play PS2 games using software emulation.

6. No Linux for You!
In its infinite wisdom, Sony has removed the "Install Other OS" feature (Settings -> System Settings -> Install Other OS) and official Linux support along with it. The current 80- and 160GB PS3s support Linux, but Sony's cut the cord on the Slim because it wants to "standardize" the OS. Counting down to open-source hack in 3, 2…

7. No On-Off Switch
The Slim has no on-off switch at the back, so now relies on the standby power button at the front. Both the power and eject buttons are no longer touch-style; they've been changed to physical buttons.

8. No Media Card Reader
No surprise here: PS3s haven't had media card slots for ages. Why not just stream photos from your laptop to the PS3 wirelessly, or copy them to a USB drive? Speaking of which…

9. Two USB Ports, Not Four
Not what we had hoped for, but again, not surprising. Not only is this a slimmed-down model, but all third-generation PS3s have only 2 USB ports (and skip the media card reader).

10. Bravia Link
Connect the PS3 Slim to a Bravia Link-capable Sony HDTV (via HDMI) and you'll be able to control the XMB interface with your TV remote. The TV will even automatically power down the PS3 when it gets turned off.

11. It Plays The Same PS3 Games!
Slim or not, it's still a freakin' PS3 and will play the same PS3 games and Blu-ray movies you throw at it! Plus, the smaller 45nm Cell chip helps it consume less power, and may potentially even be a little faster.

10 Things You Need to Know About the PS3 Slim - Ps3 slim faq - Gizmodo
 
I doubt the lack of Linux support will bother 99% of people. Very few have installed it in any case.

5. It Won't Play Your Old PlayStation 2 Games
That won't be returning," Sony's John Koller recently confirmed. Likely not a big deal unless you've got a massive collection of PS2 titles that you don't want to part with. If so, the launch PS3s with hardware PS2 Emotion Engine are your best bet (for greater compatibility), but the second-generation 60- and 80GB models will also play PS2 games using software emulation.

That's wrong, there is no PS2 software emulator for the PS3, the only thing they have emulated in software is the Emotion Engine, those models have the PS3 graphics pixel pushing chip (Graphics Synthesizer) in them, so it's a hybrid if anything.
 
Thinking about it though

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It doesn't do everything does it? It can't run Linux and can't run PS2 games, and the firmware must decide what it can and cannot do by reading some serial number off the hardware. My PS3 does everything.

Strange that they removed Linux support to be honest, what did it cost them? maybe certain members of the hacking community were getting close to ripping the machine apart? Only thing that makes sense.
 
Thinking about it though

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It doesn't do everything does it? It can't run Linux and can't run PS2 games, and the firmware must decide what it can and cannot do by reading some serial number off the hardware. My PS3 does everything.

Strange that they removed Linux support to be honest, what did it cost them? maybe certain members of the hacking community were getting close to ripping the machine apart? Only thing that makes sense.

Which is exactly why I'll be buying the fat one.
 
From reading several things, I think I know why Linux support has gone from the new slim PS3. Under Linux (or any "Other OS"), all access to the hardware goes through the Cell hypervisor, ie. software cannot get at it directly, the prime example being the GPU RSX totally inaccessible. With this new model, they have changed all sorts from video output chips to wifi controllers to HDD controllers to the BD drive, and that would need time spent rewriting all of the drivers for the hypervisor. To cut a long tale short, they can't at this moment be arsed to spend the time or the money doing so. Maybe in the future they could get around to it.
 
I can't grasp why you'd be so bothered about a PS3 not playing PS2 games? You could just pick up a cheap PS2 if it really really mattered to you!

I'll get one of these slim ones when the opportunity arises
 
From reading several things, I think I know why Linux support has gone from the new slim PS3. Under Linux (or any "Other OS"), all access to the hardware goes through the Cell hypervisor, ie. software cannot get at it directly, the prime example being the GPU RSX totally inaccessible. With this new model, they have changed all sorts from video output chips to wifi controllers to HDD controllers to the BD drive, and that would need time spent rewriting all of the drivers for the hypervisor. To cut a long tale short, they can't at this moment be arsed to spend the time or the money doing so. Maybe in the future they could get around to it.

Lazy feckers :D