Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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Judge Les Hayes once sentenced a single mother to 496 days behind bars for failing to pay traffic tickets. The sentence was so stiff it exceeded the jail time Alabama allows for negligent homicide.
Marquita Johnson, who was locked up in April 2012, says the impact of her time in jail endures today. Johnson’s three children were cast into foster care while she was incarcerated. One daughter was molested, state records show. Another was physically abused.
“Judge Hayes took away my life and didn’t care how my children suffered,” said Johnson, now 36. “My girls will never be the same.”
Fellow inmates found her sentence hard to believe. “They had a nickname for me: The Woman with All the Days,” Johnson said. “That’s what they called me: The Woman with All the Days. There were people who had committed real crimes who got out before me.”
In 2016, the state agency that oversees judges charged Hayes with violating Alabama’s code of judicial conduct. According to the Judicial Inquiry Commission, Hayes broke state and federal laws by jailing Johnson and hundreds of other Montgomery residents too poor to pay fines. Among those jailed: a plumber struggling to make rent, a mother who skipped meals to cover the medical bills of her disabled son, and a hotel housekeeper working her way through college.
Despite the severity of the ruling, Hayes wasn’t barred from serving as a judge. Instead, the judicial commission and Hayes reached a deal. The former Eagle Scout would serve an 11-month unpaid suspension. Then he could return to the bench.
All told, 9 of every 10 judges were allowed to return to the bench after they were sanctioned for misconduct, Reuters determined. They included a California judge who had sex in his courthouse chambers, once with his former law intern and separately with an attorney; a New York judge who berated domestic violence victims; and a Maryland judge who, after his arrest for driving drunk, was allowed to return to the bench provided he took a Breathalyzer test before each appearance.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-judges-misconduct/
Judge Les Hayes once sentenced a single mother to 496 days behind bars for failing to pay traffic tickets. The sentence was so stiff it exceeded the jail time Alabama allows for negligent homicide.
Marquita Johnson, who was locked up in April 2012, says the impact of her time in jail endures today. Johnson’s three children were cast into foster care while she was incarcerated. One daughter was molested, state records show. Another was physically abused.
“Judge Hayes took away my life and didn’t care how my children suffered,” said Johnson, now 36. “My girls will never be the same.”
Fellow inmates found her sentence hard to believe. “They had a nickname for me: The Woman with All the Days,” Johnson said. “That’s what they called me: The Woman with All the Days. There were people who had committed real crimes who got out before me.”
In 2016, the state agency that oversees judges charged Hayes with violating Alabama’s code of judicial conduct. According to the Judicial Inquiry Commission, Hayes broke state and federal laws by jailing Johnson and hundreds of other Montgomery residents too poor to pay fines. Among those jailed: a plumber struggling to make rent, a mother who skipped meals to cover the medical bills of her disabled son, and a hotel housekeeper working her way through college.
Despite the severity of the ruling, Hayes wasn’t barred from serving as a judge. Instead, the judicial commission and Hayes reached a deal. The former Eagle Scout would serve an 11-month unpaid suspension. Then he could return to the bench.
All told, 9 of every 10 judges were allowed to return to the bench after they were sanctioned for misconduct, Reuters determined. They included a California judge who had sex in his courthouse chambers, once with his former law intern and separately with an attorney; a New York judge who berated domestic violence victims; and a Maryland judge who, after his arrest for driving drunk, was allowed to return to the bench provided he took a Breathalyzer test before each appearance.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-judges-misconduct/
Unbelievable
Why on earth are people who miss rent and so on jailed? How are these things crimes?
Everyone knew abouyt this, it's official in the justice dept record yet no one did anything
If there is any political braniac with control over these protests then it might be a great time to change the message to say American lives matter or military lives matter as well in order to push the Trump and Rs on the active attempt to cover up the Russian bounty story.
Hell at this pt it should be pissed off Republicans protesting as well if they truly think "all lives matter". Clearly not enough to care about all the service members who s deaths are likely on Trump's hands, I guess? The whole sham of the Rs being briefly separately from the Dem house members is disgustingly corrupt.
You know a Roger Stone type of character would find a way to rile people up over something that can be an easy score for the Dems. But I know I'm making wild assumptions that the Dems have learned to wrestle in the mud by now.
Hell at this pt it should be pissed off Republicans protesting as well if they truly think "all lives matter". Clearly not enough to care about all the service members who s deaths are likely on Trump's hands, I guess? The whole sham of the Rs being briefly separately from the Dem house members is disgustingly corrupt.
You know a Roger Stone type of character would find a way to rile people up over something that can be an easy score for the Dems. But I know I'm making wild assumptions that the Dems have learned to wrestle in the mud by now.
Forgive my ignorance but what is the story behind this?
It's behind a pay wall but I think it's this
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/opinion/the-case-for-black-with-a-capital-b.html
Honestly I post it because I just thought it was quite funny as we hear all the time that there's no class politics in America, yet this "liberating" gain is a perfect sign of different interest in american society.
Could you explain this.[/QUOTE]
This fixes nothing. It's not the moderate that needs to be fixed.
This is only cosmetics, all these years the culture against black seems to be getting much better (african american, diversity quota, equality employment) but only on the superficial level. The racism is still well alive in america, they just put more and more makeup to hide it.
Anyone on socmed can get fired foe using racist slur, even racist joke can get you fired if it goes viral.
But the one that actually kneeled on george floyd can go free if not for nationwide riot.
American political correctness is a whole hypocritical mess covering a very blatant racism issue
This is only cosmetics, all these years the culture against black seems to be getting much better (african american, diversity quota, equality employment) but only on the superficial level. The racism is still well alive in america, they just put more and more makeup to hide it.
Anyone on socmed can get fired foe using racist slur, even racist joke can get you fired if it goes viral.
But the one that actually kneeled on george floyd can go free if not for nationwide riot.
American political correctness is a whole hypocritical mess covering a very blatant racism issue
Ah right, when I see those sort of things my initial reaction is always "we don't do that already?".
Oklahoma woman shot while trying to remove Nazi flag
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53247757BBC said:
The state of the superior race, he looks like a faulty goat.
This is exactly how Nanny Germany started.
Bloody hell, guy has assault rifle? Love for weapons in USA is crazy.
The madness in those eyes.
But what do you expect from this women? Angry mob broke down into their home and she is alone with her husband.
I can't believe that some people are defending mob (these people are not protesters) in this situation. I am family person. My wife and my kid are the most important persons in my life. If i was in place of this man i don't think that i would react this calmly like he did.
They didn't broke into their home, they were in a private street on their way to the mayor house. These two people decided to confront with fire arms in hands, a group of people that wasn't interested in them. If you are a family person, you do what most sane people do, you stay inside, behind thick walls and eventually call the police.
Well i don't have gun (and never will) so it would be only thing to do. With my wife and kid probably having emotional scars for the rest of their lives.
And yes, they were on private property. They broke in their property. Not on the street. If they were on the street than i would be first to say that those two are sick bastards. I am pacifist and i am so glad that i live in Europe where gun laws ( at least in my country) are strict as it gets.
John hartson is looking out of sorts.
They were on a private street in a gated community, they didn't broke into their home but the residential area. The mob was walking on the private street on their way to an other house, the Mayor's house, these two people decided to confront them with fire arms. The mob is in the wrong because they are trespassing and the two people are too because they are dumb, these two people didn't put themselves in a safe situation they went out of their way to not benefit from the cover of their walls which would have been quite useful if the mob was actually after them, you are not killing 20 people easily in a matter of seconds with an AR-15 and what looks to be a PPK, if the mob was after them and only one of them had a firearm these two people would have been dead. People should remember that movies are fake, in real life the average joe gets killed by the mob because he doesn't actually hit the target that often.
Looks like an aged version of Chris Elliott's character in Get A Life.
Forgotten this racist still exists.
It says everything about Starkey that he's now known as a controversial, rent-a-quote media gun-for-hire rather than the historian his reputation was formerly founded upon.
There was no genocide in Rwanda otherwise there wouldn't so many damn Hutu and Tutsi.
Without exaggeration it's one of the dumbest thing I have ever heard and it comes from an historian.
Believe me, his history books are disappointing too.
I actually wouldn't expect better trigger discipline which is one of my biggest worry. While anyone who has at least tried to get an hunting license will know that you do not put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot, I suspect that it won't cross most people's mind. And the way she handles her pistols the poor arm angle and the fact that at various point she doesn't even look in the direction she is aiming at, tells me that she has never been trained. At least I hope.
The term 'blacks' just really doesn't sit right with me.
Maybe someone who's well versed in linguistics can better explain, but there's a dehumanisation happening right? removing 'people' from "black people" and reducing it to just 'blacks' isn't something you see with other races.
Anyway, people in positions of power with a lot of influence being racist is nothing new - i'm just glad they're taking off their own mask these days.
Oh, no doubt. She looks like nobody has ever taught her how to use that thing.
I should have said I’d expect better trigger discipline from anybody I let hold a loaded gun near me.
It’s absolutely dehumanizing. He should have been called out on the spot.
Starkey also said that 'the British Empire was the first key stage in human history'. Ha.
The 'damn' before the black is a bit of a giveaway really. The man is a grade a cnut.
The interviewer is also a racist so no one is surprised.
Its use is not only dehumanising but outdated and has a history of dismissal behind it. People like Starkey use it deliberately, I think.
Yep, honestly non-black people holding other non-black people accountable for anti-black statements/actions is the best short-term way to address racism.
If racist people aren't held accountable by people who look like them and/or share similar spaces to them, not much progress will be made.
& the same should be done for other forms of prejudice & discrimination as well (it goes without saying, but still)
Yeah the 'damn' really empathised the point, but even when someone says something like 'blacks x y z' it doesn't sit right with me, because why would you not just say black people? It's odd.
But yeah, feck him.
Oh yeah it was definitely deliberate, if he said 'so many damn black people in africa' obviously it's still a fecked up statement, but like you said it's less dismissive.
'blacks' makes it sound like he's describing something that's not human.
Its an odd link but the term "blacks" always makes me think of Tony Sopranos mum saying it dismissively as "these blacks"
The manner with which it is said is telling: as if Black people are a mass, an irritating nuisance and irrelevance fit only to be swept or shovelled away from sight and mind.
I wouldn't necessarily go quite that far, I've definitely heard people use Whites, Jews, Asians, 'Latinos' (I know the last one especially is not exactly the same) without people on the end of it.
The use of the word itself is not necessarily bad but I look at it within context and I think people should be careful about the terms they use. For example, if I hear someone say Jew or the Jews, without people coming after it, I do kind of automatically tense up because of their associated history. I'm either expecting something anti-semitic or....I don't know, just Jew stand-alone almost sounds like its being used as an insult.
Obviously context matters. The context in this case being a well known historian who....if we're being kind, skirts the line of what might be considered racist, continuing to make racist and disparaging comments. Which I'm sure he'll pass off as a misunderstanding.
The genocide comment is one of the sillier ones I've heard from him and would be akin to saying of course there was no Armenian or Jewish genocide because, not only do they continue to exist but they even have their own countries now.
*And yes, the 'damned' is just very very unpleasant.
The use of the word itself is not necessarily bad but I look at it within context and I think people should be careful about the terms they use. For example, if I hear someone say Jew or the Jews, without people coming after it, I do kind of automatically tense up because of their associated history. I'm either expecting something anti-semitic or....I don't know, just Jew stand-alone almost sounds like its being used as an insult.
Obviously context matters. The context in this case being a well known historian who....if we're being kind, skirts the line of what might be considered racist, continuing to make racist and disparaging comments. Which I'm sure he'll pass off as a misunderstanding.
The genocide comment is one of the sillier ones I've heard from him and would be akin to saying of course there was no Armenian or Jewish genocide because, not only do they continue to exist but they even have their own countries now.
*And yes, the 'damned' is just very very unpleasant.
For me the fundamental problem with the term "blacks" when used by scholars is the fact that Africans do not often identify that way. I mentioned it in an old thread but in Africa people identify ethnically and it's a very central point culturally, it's no different to Arabians, Persians, Turkic or Maghrebis, you don't call them browns and you don't mix them.