Premier League Matchweek 5 16th-18th September

lem8sh said:
The rules state you need intent and/or your arm to move toward the ball for a peno to be given. Never a pen.
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The rules don't say what "intent" means. The decision falls at the hands of the referee on whether a player's handball is considered on purpose, or not. Typically, penalties are awarded when a player deflects the ball with his hand while his hand is far from his body. In the case of Otamendi (I think) his hand wasn't close to his body and whether that is on purpose is entirely up to debate. The point is: he deflected the ball while his hands weren't close to his body, hence most referee's would have awarded the pen right then and there.

It should tell you something when even Souness, a Liverpool legend and a guy that probably hates us, said so himself.

I'm not saying that it was a 100% penalty, however considering that he didn't even give us a clear penalty and a red card for Bravo's challenge on Rooney, I think we deserved it anyway.

Common sense. Unless you can provide evidence of where the 4th game of a season decided the outcome some 35 odd games later.
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Every game decides what your points will be at the end of the season. If we finish 2 points behind City, this game would have won us the title. I don't need to give you any examples, it's common sense. In the past few years we've lost the title by 1 or 2 points, sometimes on a goal difference. Every game counts here.

Aside from that, my original point is simple: we should have had a clear cut penalty and a red card for Bravo. We didn't and that may well cost us - be it a title or a top 4 finish, doesn't matter.
 
Jimmy Skitz said:
comfortable win today, Slimani looks to be a right unit as well
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I hope he does well for you guys. One of my favourite players at Sporting. Hopefully he keeps his streak when you play Porto for the Champions League. He got a knack of scoring against them
 
Sly said:
I hope he does well for you guys. One of my favourite players at Sporting. Hopefully he keeps his streak when you play Porto for the Champions League. He got a knack of scoring against them
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cheers bud, some talk of us coming back for Silva in the Winter window too
 
Jimmy Skitz said:
cheers bud, some talk of us coming back for Silva in the Winter window too
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Adrien would have been a real coup for you guys. But if he keeps playing the way he did against Madrid, i dunno if other higher profile clubs will make the move as well.
 
I remember last year, especially in December, every game was a must win and cup final for us, yet we were dropping points left and right.

All I want to say is that it's still early days and nothing is decided yet. City usuay start very well and then drop points.
 


Iwobi continues to impress by putting in some very classy performances that belie his age.
 
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Mihai said:
I remember last year, especially in December, every game was a must win and cup final for us, yet we were dropping points left and right.

All I want to say is that it's still early days and nothing is decided yet. City usuay start very well and then drop points.
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We win tomorrow and they are still only 3 points ahead, no matter how impressive they have looked.
 
We can't afford to go 6 points behind City already even though it's still early days. I want a good performance from United today. Seems like forever that we gave a team a right tonking.

Much as it pains me to say it City look really good at the moment.
 
This place will go postal if Utd play poor & lose today. Possibly including me, :).
 
Dumat12 said:
The point is: he deflected the ball while his hands weren't close to his body, hence most referee's would have awarded the pen right then and there.
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Disagree, don't think many refs would give handball for that, was nowhere near being intentional or his arms in a really unnatural position due to the shape of his body with the way he attempted to stop the cross.

Would be raging if my club got a penalty against them for that incident and I'm sure 99% of United fans would be up in arms if a penalty was awarded against them for that incident.
 
Why are we so incredibly slow starters? One would think the players would want to show off after the two former matches.

Oh, and wtf was that from Pereyra? It's getting rediculous how people just instantly grab their face when losing a duel vs Fellaini...
 
And Watford is gonna be 11 men behind the ball the remainder of the match, we're absolutely shit, and can't break down defences, we're gonna lose this.
 
We hardly, to never ever hit our own players with crosses/corners, it's absolutely baffling how poor we're at it.
 
Pogba is so lazy off the ball. Uniteds midfield 2 remind me of City's last season. 1 guy doing all the work, 1 just jogging and strolling around till he gets the ball. Before you all get angry, Im not saying he won't come good but he looks disinterested in the hard work stuff in this game.

As a side note, I think Watford are going to be a nightmare for us at City, big strong powerful team who love a bit of a battle. Without scoring early they'll be a hard team to beat.
 
Greatt at killing off a match aren't they? Wish we could kill 3 min like that
 
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Things again were nearly just right for Pogba today:

* Playing a 3 - 3 - 3 formation: CHECK

* Weak opposition: CHECK

But, and unlike the last match, Rooney was messing things up this time around, so circumstances haven't yet gelled just right - not too hot and not too cold - for Goldilocks to play well.
 
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