He’s not offside until the header, at which point he is definitely not interfering anymore. Gutted for Wolves but correct decision.
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Wrong view shown on the replay. Had to be the one showing Bernardo backing into the keeper as the corner is coming in. I think the goal has to be ruled out in that scenario. Why is Silva there - to unbalance/put off the goalkeeper of course.
That is odd if it's the rule. Because officials call fouls for wrestling in the box as the ball is in flight. It also seems if this is indeed the case the attacking player can obstruct until ball is contacted, odd. Fouls occur all over the pitch out of possession.
Had to have a good laugh at Pep coaching Bernado Silva there out on the field after the game when he knew the camera was on him. Get in the dressing room ffs.
That shove took place between the corner being kicked and Stones heading forward so any interference at that point can't be offside. Therefore, isn't the question whether or not it was a foul on the keeper?
It was a very good header from close range, don't think Sa is saving it regardless although of course that dosen't always matter in offside calls.
Wolves not getting that free kick 90 seconds before on edge of the box needs to be looked at also.
Surely there's an argument for it being a foul but not offside? Silvas contact with Sa he's not offside for as Stones hadn't made contact with the ball at that point?
Yeah that’s true!
Didn’t see the bump until afterwards, entirely on whoever showed the shortened VAR clip. Suprised they didn’t CGI Casemiro 2 footing Silva to be honest
No that's correct. He's not offside until the header. And not offside after it, because he obviously doesn't impact play at all.
I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.
It’s worth saying City are very rarely on the wrong side of a dodgy VAR call, it always seems to benefit them
The ref never saw the different angle. I mean who chooses what the ref looks at. Because why would they have him take a look if they were only going to show the replay that shows nothing.
He can't be offside before the header though. Is he fouling the goalkeeper, or just obstructing by standing there?
Not a question of offside - he's clearly impeding the keeper.
I still think it can be offside (or should be). The goalie has never got fully set because he's still getting into his position after moving Bernardo. If Bernardo was removed from the incident he would be tracking the cross the whole time.
I’d be fuming if it was disallowed for Utd. Well done to the ref for sticking to his decision. It should be happening more often.
I think that it’s right to stand then in that case isn’t it because from the header onwards I don’t think he was impacting the play from the header onwards
I think if Sa falls after Silva backing in to him he gets the FK and the game ends a draw.
Right call though to be fair.
Right call though to be fair.
Absolutely no chance of that happening. We all know that they're going to get off lightly. Everybody knows this already.
Fair enough, all I've seen is the still photo.
Arsenal like borderline corner header got us out of jail but we've started the season despite results in terrible form. Just like Arsenal yesterday, if we continue to play poorly we'll eventually get turned over. We've been behind 4 times this season already in the PL. Can't last. We look a team devoid of creativity with Fodens struggles and KDB injured.
I got laughed at for saying it earlier to Gunners fans but if Liverpool win today and get a result at Arsenal they'll win it. We can't keep getting away with the level of performance we've started the season with.
I got laughed at for saying it earlier to Gunners fans but if Liverpool win today and get a result at Arsenal they'll win it. We can't keep getting away with the level of performance we've started the season with.
And would you consider that a foul? Of course not. And it can't be offside as the corner is taken from the goal line..
I kinda like the decision just because it's going to piss Gary O'Neill off tbh.
SkySports showed a proper angle right after the incident. Its actually a bit nuts how that angle wasn't shown to the ref.
Think the Rodri injury will be your undoing
His interference is still affecting that moment though. If its not disallowed then it opens up a weird scenario where you are allowed to fully stand in front of the keeper as long as you duck before a header on goal. It completely ignores the distraction it causes to the goalkeeper while the ball is in flight.
You can easily make a case that he's interfering there.
VAR and Sky didn't present it very well initially and it looked the right decision to award the goal, but actually I think City are fortunate there...
VAR and Sky didn't present it very well initially and it looked the right decision to award the goal, but actually I think City are fortunate there...
I don't watch City's game, but is this the correct photo of the incident? (first image I found. Sorry for crap quality)
How is that not interfering with play?!
How is that not interfering with play?!
Who got a second yellow?
I think he was struggling anyway pre-injury but yeah its a big one. Teams carve out huge chances against us on the counter when he's missing. Missing both him and Walker (probably even more so) and we're easy to get at. We could have been 2 down at half time, instead of level.
For me though the biggest issue is at the top of the pitch. We're completely devoid of anything creative and Haaland who will get a deserved bit of flack, but is feeding off scraps. Gundogan looks a year past it. Foden lost, KDB injured. Bernardo is not an end product guy. We're really quite toothless. Can't be relying on the LB scoring a wondergoal and/or a John Stones header every week.
Liverpool get one injury and there’s a whole segment dedicated to it
Disagree.
It's not interfering with play at all, obviously, he is nowhere near the ball. The discussion can only be if it is interfering with an opponent, which at the moment of the header he arguably is not.I don't watch City's game, but is this the correct photo of the incident? (first image I found. Sorry for crap quality)
How is that not interfering with play?!
Correct decision for me. The keeper also had time to shove Silva belt the ball came in so hardly that impeded was he
Misleading angle, the one dead centre of the goal shows that Bernardo isn't even close to being in Sa's eye-line.I don't watch City's game, but is this the correct photo of the incident? (first image I found. Sorry for crap quality)
How is that not interfering with play?!
He wasn't in front of the keeper and wasn't anywhere near the line of the ball. Go back and look at the replay from the front middle. Silva is about 2 yards to the left of the keeper
This
That's absolute nonsense. He's right in front of the keeper and the keeper will 100% be aware that he is there, whether that's in his direct eyeline, peripheral vision, or whether or not he can reach out and physically touch him. He's 100% interfering with the goalkeeper's decision making, which therefore has an impact on the game.
That goal shouldn't stand, he's offside in front of the keeper as the shot comes in. He's clearly in his eyeline and interfering with play because of it, ducking away to side shouldn't even come into it.
I'm sure we'll see this being applied consistently.