Premier League Gameweek 26

visiting villain said:
the pitch at Elland Road is utterly shambolic.
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Yeah, it's a complete disaster. Planned to do a complete change last summer but Covid intervened and unsurprisingly it went to pieces over winter. We then did a rush-replacement between home games but ran into a bout of terrible Yorkshire weather so the new stuff hasn't had the time or conditions to bed in.
 
Such a shame Wolves cant go down.

Horrendous side to watch for over a year now.
 
Ekkie Thump said:
Yeah, that pissed me off too. Don't want any more of that shite out of him.

Thought we were awful and Villa defended well but my god they were shithouse for 60 minutes.
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Targett seemed on a particular mission to ruck everyone up today.

I've watched almost every Villa game this season and not seen him play like that before.
 
Was just thinking that Wolves are the kind of side that are frustratingly effective with someone like Neves occasionally popping up with a goal. At least it wasn't a banger this time, another decent header
 
padr81 said:
You have some kind of a point but I don't think you would have fallen so far. I mean look at the player who became the backbone of City, they'd either be at Real, Barca, Bayern or United. Players like David Silva, Eden Hazard, KDB etc.. United wouldn't have fallen away so badly, football in the 2000's and now is nothing like football with eras. There is no coming back from what football became in the 00's. People don't see it but the era of AC Milan's etc.. is done. Real and Barca will win 9 of every 10 titles in Spain for eternity, Bayern the same in Germany, PSG in France, Juve in Italy. They may occasionally drop here or there but they'll always bounce back. There is no oil money in the Bundesliga and aside from Klopps 5 minutes in the sun its been relentless. There is no more cycles, there are 15 huge top feeders (which now include oil clubs like us, Chelsea and PSG) who simply feed off the rest, the day of an Aston Villa or whoever rising up to claim a place among the elite for an era is done buddy. Since the money started coming into football in the 90's its been becoming more and more monopolized. Those spells for Leeds, etc.. were never gonna be repeated and having Blackburn in there is unfair as they literally did exactly what City and Chelsea did.

I'll say it here and now, Villa, Forest, Leeds without huge backing will never win another title ever unless there is a breakaway super league and never would have after the 2000's or if they win an odd trophy it won't stick ala Dortmund in Germany. There is no more era's of club a or b. Football has become haves and have not's and in England this started with the formation of the premier league. City and Chelsea forced their way in the door thinks to wealthy benefactors and that is the only way anyone else gets in the door. Sure its possible to win the occasional trophy but answer me this.

If City, PSG and Chelsea didn't have what they have now, do you think Marseille, Forest etc.. could ever win another European Cup? Without those 3 clubs, the same winners would still win year in year out. United, Liverpool occasionally Arsenal (just not in Europe), Barca, Real and occasionally Atletico, Bayern and occasionally Dortmund, Juve and occasionally one of the MIlan sides.

I never once said City/PSG were good for football, I implied they were bad for United and prevented United getting a Bayern like stranglehold on English football nothing more.

Hers an example of how the transition in football was going before City and post City.
CL winners in the 80's: Steau Bucharest, PSV, Milan, Porto, Juve, LIverpool, Villa (8 clubs in 10 years)
CL winners in the 10's. Real, Barca, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern. No team from outside the big 5 leagues even made the final, Jose in 03/04 being the last.

CL Finalists by League:
80's: England x 4, Spain x 2, Germany x 3, Italy x 5, Romania x 1, Portugal x 3
10's: England x 5, Spain x 8, Germany x 4, Italy x 2, France x 1 (that 1 being an oil club).

The only club not from a big 5 league to appear in a final since 96/97 is Jose's Porto, the 70's alone had finalists from Greece, Sweden, Belgium. The 60's had Scotland and Yugoslavia. Football was becoming a closed shop since the 90's.
With or without Chelsea's arrival the money in the game was closing the shop, the rich were getting richer and football had already reached the point where Ajax, PSV, Celtic, RedStar, Benfica etc.. were already just feeder clubs for the big guns.
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You’re basing everything on keeping United from winning more trophies, such a city fan way of looking at it. It’s bigger picture though. It’s your bench today and your team today, just for a game against West Ham. It’s ridiculous. Where’s Nathan Ake by the way? There’s no consequence to your signings...we’re still playing Lindelof.

Your point on signings since your takeover is absolute nonsense, this is the list of signings we made from 08-13, are you seriously telling me this list would be completely different but for your takeover? (Have a look at our debt repayments in those years before we refinanced the Glazers debt and the club payed for them to own us) :-


Nick Powell
Shinji Kagawa
Robin Van Persie
Angelo Henrique
Alexander Büttner
Phil Jones
David De Gea
Ashley Young
Gabriel Obertan
Mame Biram Diouf
Chris Smalling
Javier Hernandez
Zoran Tosic
Marnick Vermijl
Bebe
Anders Lindegaard
Antonio Valencia
Michael Owen
Gabriel Obertan
Mame Biram Diouf

When SAF left we’d have been on a downward spiral, nothing to do with City.

If you seriously think Blackburn did what City have done you’re truly deluded. They were a sugar daddy club on a local level. You’re state owned to the point you can piss on fifa and FFP and cook the books to make it look like your squad wagebill is pretty much the same as everyone else’s.
 
Sandikan said:
I spent years playing footy, indoors, outdoors, and run a tonneload, including hard track sessions, and I can't recall ever thinking I had a dry mouth!

You might say, that's not premier league footy and you'd be right, but if it was any sort of sensible thing to do, every player would do it.
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Obviously your fitness levels are a lot higher than mine then. :lol:
 
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