But you’re making the mistake of focusing on one club....with or without city, Untied would’ve fallen into a slump post fergie. Giving the chance for a number of clubs to prosper.
We had an era under fergie, 30 years before that an era under Busby. Leeds Liverpool Forest Everton Villa Blackburn Arsenal had great spells in those times and fa cups and league cups were up for grabs for anyone. Have a look at your starting 11 today....then have a look at your bench. Look at your record in the cups over the past 5/6 years....everyone literally has to pray you get knocked out before they have a chance due to the strength of your squad. Tell me how anyone is competing with you in the next ten years. Your bench today would walk the league. We won leagues with 4-6 players from our academy in the starting 11 and the likes of John Curtis, Jonathan greening, Phil Neville, obertan and david bellion on the bench.
If you have a squad For the next ten years, like you have had for the past ten years...like you had today .....that is only good for Manchester City. Absolute nonsense that it’s good for football. Rubbish.
Football clubs will never compete with Arab nations, no matter how big, especially since you pissed all over ffp which was the only hope of another club competing with you.
I don’t expect you to care, I wouldn’t if I were a blue but it’s nonsense that this has been for the benefit of anyone other than City. You’re stopping most other clubs winning the league cup or fa cup most seasons.
You have some kind of a point but I don't think you would have fallen so far. I mean look at the player who became the backbone of City, they'd either be at Real, Barca, Bayern or United. Players like David Silva, Eden Hazard, KDB etc.. United wouldn't have fallen away so badly, football in the 2000's and now is nothing like football with eras. There is no coming back from what football became in the 00's. People don't see it but the era of AC Milan's etc.. is done. Real and Barca will win 9 of every 10 titles in Spain for eternity, Bayern the same in Germany, PSG in France, Juve in Italy. They may occasionally drop here or there but they'll always bounce back. There is no oil money in the Bundesliga and aside from Klopps 5 minutes in the sun its been relentless. There is no more cycles, there are 15 huge top feeders (which now include oil clubs like us, Chelsea and PSG) who simply feed off the rest, the day of an Aston Villa or whoever rising up to claim a place among the elite for an era is done buddy. Since the money started coming into football in the 90's its been becoming more and more monopolized. Those spells for Leeds, etc.. were never gonna be repeated and having Blackburn in there is unfair as they literally did exactly what City and Chelsea did.
I'll say it here and now, Villa, Forest, Leeds without huge backing will never win another title ever unless there is a breakaway super league and never would have after the 2000's or if they win an odd trophy it won't stick ala Dortmund in Germany. There is no more era's of club a or b. Football has become haves and have not's and in England this started with the formation of the premier league. City and Chelsea forced their way in the door thinks to wealthy benefactors and that is the only way anyone else gets in the door. Sure its possible to win the occasional trophy but answer me this.
If City, PSG and Chelsea didn't have what they have now, do you think Marseille, Forest etc.. could ever win another European Cup? Without those 3 clubs, the same winners would still win year in year out. United, Liverpool occasionally Arsenal (just not in Europe), Barca, Real and occasionally Atletico, Bayern and occasionally Dortmund, Juve and occasionally one of the MIlan sides.
I never once said City/PSG were good for football, I implied they were bad for United and prevented United getting a Bayern like stranglehold on English football nothing more.
Hers an example of how the transition in football was going before City and post City.
CL winners in the 80's: Steau Bucharest, PSV, Milan, Porto, Juve, LIverpool, Villa (8 clubs in 10 years)
CL winners in the 10's. Real, Barca, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern. No team from outside the big 5 leagues even made the final, Jose in 03/04 being the last.
CL Finalists by League:
80's: England x 4, Spain x 2, Germany x 3, Italy x 5, Romania x 1, Portugal x 3
10's: England x 5, Spain x 8, Germany x 4, Italy x 2, France x 1 (that 1 being an oil club).
The only club not from a big 5 league to appear in a final since 96/97 is Jose's Porto, the 70's alone had finalists from Greece, Sweden, Belgium. The 60's had Scotland and Yugoslavia. Football was becoming a closed shop since the 90's.
With or without Chelsea's arrival the money in the game was closing the shop, the rich were getting richer and football had already reached the point where Ajax, PSV, Celtic, RedStar, Benfica etc.. were already just feeder clubs for the big guns.