Premier League Festive Season

Guardiola is making the PL look like farmers's league.

He is gonna win 4 titles in five years.

easy for him to do that with an absolutely unlimited budget and when you get your former club, who's 1bn in debt, to pay you twice the amount for a player than what you paid for him.
 
Guardiola has set such a high standard since coming to England that a defeat/performance like that feels like a hammer blow. The Premier League would be the Bundesliga without Klopp's Liverpool but it looks like City will run away with their fourth title in five seasons.

I'm not sure we have the resources to get another proper title challenge out of this squad. Klopp can only do so much.
Feels like a hammer blow because it was Liverpool up against such a patched up Leicester defence and Liverpool didn't just lose but somehow didn't manage to score.
 
Guardiola has set such a high standard since coming to England that a defeat/performance like that feels like a hammer blow. The Premier League would be the Bundesliga without Klopp's Liverpool but it looks like City will run away with their fourth title in five seasons.

I'm not sure we have the resources to get another proper title challenge out of this squad. Klopp can only do so much.
City’s points total over the last 2 seasons haven’t been that high. This is on Klopp being 6 points above Arsenal by January and not City being a super team imo
 
Guardiola has set such a high standard since coming to England that a defeat/performance like that feels like a hammer blow. The Premier League would be the Bundesliga without Klopp's Liverpool but it looks like City will run away with their fourth title in five seasons.

I'm not sure we have the resources to get another proper title challenge out of this squad. Klopp can only do so much.

Kudos to Klopp for keeping up with City thus far
Without him City does 5/5 titles mostly done by January ending
 
I was thinking we should go all out for the League Cup now. We need something to show from this season. We’re clearly not as good as City are.

Nowhere near. And we can close that Klopp, Tuchel or Pep thread too.
 
It's always the draws that kill Liverpool's hopes. Then they'll have a slip up and a loss somewhere and it's just too much, they'll have had 3 more draws than City so far. They dont lose much, but draw a lot of silly games.
 
City’s points total over the last 2 seasons haven’t been that high. This is on Klopp being 6 points above Arsenal by January and not City being a super team imo
City are a super team though. They hit 80+ points in their sleep. We've had a decent season overall but City seem to reach a stage every year where they run on auto pilot under Guardiola.
 
True. Those winning runs are something they've picked up under Guardiola. Feels like they win 15 on the spin every year. It doesn't help that they have 100 million to go and throw at a squad player like Grealish.
And to imagine they were looking to buy harry Kane. I feel they are here to stay and we will have a team like Liverpool or Chelsea or maybe United win the title here and there but I feel even after Pep goes they are going to dominate.
 
And to imagine they were looking to buy harry Kane. I feel they are here to stay and we will have a team like Liverpool or Chelsea or maybe United win the title here and there but I feel even after Pep goes they are going to dominate.
I don't think so. Guardiola's the best manager in the world by a country mile and arguably the best ever, they'll pick up good manager's but they'll never get close to replicating this level of success. Guardiola is bigger than their club.
 
And to imagine they were looking to buy harry Kane. I feel they are here to stay and we will have a team like Liverpool or Chelsea or maybe United win the title here and there but I feel even after Pep goes they are going to dominate.
Depends who they get in after him. They were a bit patchy under previous managers, winning one then struggling to retain it. Same for us really. The future after Guardiola and Klopp is hard to predict. Could open it up for someone else. Chelsea will probably win one here and there. United might if they ever get themselves sorted out. Hell even Spurs might...never mind.
 
And to imagine they were looking to buy harry Kane. I feel they are here to stay and we will have a team like Liverpool or Chelsea or maybe United win the title here and there but I feel even after Pep goes they are going to dominate.

Until Newcastle will eventually overtake them. The future doesn't look that bright for EPL too.
 
I don't think so. Guardiola's the best manager in the world by a country mile and arguably the best ever, they'll pick up good manager's but they'll never get close to replicating this level of success. Guardiola is bigger than their club.
I see your point and I hope you are correct on that but they have too much money to burn and are run like a proper club. Pep will be a huge loss for them but still they will be competitive and I will argue favourites for the nearby future.
 
Anyone else sick of all the constant moaning of PL managers recently? The schedule has always been this intense over Christmas, and nowadays we have better conditioning and deeper squads.

I completely get that Covid has added another element to manage, but even without absentees through Covid, the moaning has been gradually increasing throughout the past few years. More continental coaches maybe?

Anyway, for me, football is one of the highlights of my Christmas holidays. Boxing Day and New Years day matches just feel different, they always have. It's the way it is in the PL, part of the draw of the league. It really adds another element to it for me, 10 days that are a complete rollercoaster and can change the complexion of the table completely.

Hope we never go down the route of the Christmas break.
 
If City win the title at the end of the season it will be their 4th in 6 seasons, not in 5 . You all are forgetting that in Pep's first season in England Antonio Conte with Chelsea won the title. In fact City finished 3rd.
 
Salah was playing out of his skin for a huge contract (which he deserved, no doubt). Liverpool haggled, penny pinched and didn’t commit. Now Salah couldn’t be arsed?
 
I don't think so. Guardiola's the best manager in the world by a country mile and arguably the best ever, they'll pick up good manager's but they'll never get close to replicating this level of success. Guardiola is bigger than their club.

Guardiola was 3 years at Bayern. I can assure you I had preferred Heynckes or Flick to stay over him. He is a great manager to win the league but often overthinks and feck up the big games.
 
If City win the title at the end of the season it will be their 4th in 6 seasons, not in 5 . You all are forgetting that in Pep's first season in England Antonio Conte with Chelsea won the title. In fact City finished 3rd.
Are you sure here?
 
I don't think so. Guardiola's the best manager in the world by a country mile and arguably the best ever, they'll pick up good manager's but they'll never get close to replicating this level of success. Guardiola is bigger than their club.

A very good manager but definitely not the best ever. Klopp could've challenged if he'd actually spent any money in the last two seasons. Pep Vs Klopp's net spend since Klopp came in is like £100m Vs £500m, an extra £100m per season. It's no surprise they dominate so many matches because they can field two strong first XIs whereas Pool have been overplaying Mane and Salah since 2018
 
City are a super team though. They hit 80+ points in their sleep. We've had a decent season overall but City seem to reach a stage every year where they run on auto pilot under Guardiola.
It is possible to ride it out though going by their points total over the last two seasons. They might get a monstrous points total this season or maybe they won’t but this isn’t how you combat them. Fans made excuses for Salah playing in dead rubbers v Milan and not giving him a break but he’s looking mentally and physically spent out there imo. How many times does Trent losing concentration turn into a problem you have to solve rather than writing it off for having the best attacking FB in the world since Carlos and all that nonsense? There’s glaring problems that Klopp has to, and can, solve but he seems to get a free pass. Teams weren’t always going to miss glaring chances against you as in earlier in the year and have Salah score 12 in 12. It was always going to even out
 
I’m amazed so many think the league is done already.

It's mad isn't it.
Like many thought Liverpool were finished last season, willfully ignoring them being down to their 8th choice centre back combo featuring non league loanees and the manager's mates son etc in a freak covid behind close doors season.

Enjoy the defeat but is only just half way.

City win their next game and Liverpool don't win at Chelsea then it gets more of a gap.
 
If City win the title at the end of the season it will be their 4th in 6 seasons, not in 5 . You all are forgetting that in Pep's first season in England Antonio Conte with Chelsea won the title. In fact City finished 3rd.

Check again!
City have won 3 of the last 4, so this year would make it 4 out of 5.
Chelsea won 5 years ago. 6 years at the end of this season.
 
Guardiola has set such a high standard since coming to England that a defeat/performance like that feels like a hammer blow. The Premier League would be the Bundesliga without Klopp's Liverpool but it looks like City will run away with their fourth title in five seasons.

I'm not sure we have the resources to get another proper title challenge out of this squad. Klopp can only do so much.
Unlimited funds are quite useful too
 
It is possible to ride it out though going by their points total over the last two seasons. They might get a monstrous points total this season or maybe they won’t but this isn’t how you combat them. Fans made excuses for Salah playing in dead rubbers v Milan and not giving him a break but he’s looking mentally and physically spent out there imo. How many times does Trent losing concentration turn into a problem you have to solve rather than writing it off for having the best attacking FB in the world since Carlos and all that nonsense? There’s glaring problems that Klopp has to, and can, solve but he seems to get a free pass. Teams weren’t always going to miss glaring chances against you as in earlier in the year and have Salah score 12 in 12. It was always going to even out
But we always create more than the opposition. Klopp sets us up to play in a way that ensures that we're more likely to create better chances (which we do most of the time). We missed glaring chances tonight as well. That's a two way street. Salah and Alexander-Arnold have also been two of the best players in the league this season. What Klopp's doing is working for the most part.

We're up against a City side with more resources, a better squad, arguably the best manager the PL has seen other than SAF. We've lost two games at the midway point and scored 50 goals in 19 league games but we're up against a side that can win 10 in a row without breaking a sweat in this league. They're just better than we are.
 
If City win the title at the end of the season it will be their 4th in 6 seasons, not in 5 . You all are forgetting that in Pep's first season in England Antonio Conte with Chelsea won the title. In fact City finished 3rd.
Nope, if City win it’ll be City’s 4th title in 5 last seasons.