Premier League Festive Season (Gameweek 18-20)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to celebrate rare back-to-back victories for Manchester United! They analyse the late win in the Europa League vs. Rangers and then try and find things to analyse in a pretty dour game vs. Fulham. They also chat about the latest Marcus Rashford news, and look at the latest transfer news.
VAR never cobtra
Agree , and this nice guy act is the most fake act in Football but you have to hand to him as a manager , loses a few big players but rebuilds with little fuss and has them back at the top already , unfortunately I can see them win the league.
The annoying thing is that some of the players he has brought in are nothing to write home about and would no doubt be flops here at Utd, but they are stepping into a far different culture and wining mentality there and become better players for it.
Sure the narrative is they only get robbed
Yeah, he is unbelievable, not just in terms of his numbers, but as you say, his constant involvement in everything positive they do. Absolutely brilliant tonight.
Yeah, I think I would agree with that. He has been top class for such a long time.
People can still think a player is great and underrate him. I just think it’s an era of goals and stats, and a lot of people don’t stop to see just how involved he is in games. Like I said, you probably won’t see those two passes again, but he has won this game for Liverpool and he has done that so many times.
I just think a lot of people don’t see just how good he is. Like @WeePat said above, I think he is probably the 2nd greatest player in the history of the league.
How on earth was that dive not clear and obvious? Jota took an extra step before realising he'd overrun the ball and just fell over.
Commentator's a cnut
Fair enough. Thanks for explaining.
When you listen to Neville I am sure he is turning scouse, he is getting a dialect.
Weather forecast cloudy with a chance of bonesaws?
He wants the crowd to see his teeth
A quote was posted a few mins ago in this thread saying that refs had been told this season that contact wasn't enough. The refs were directed to determine whether the contact had consequence or whether the player was using the contact as an excuse to go down. The ref here seems to have forgotten all about that one.
Nobody will talk about it but Newcastle have been a total car crash. Even that pen - jota has an empty net if he doesn’t dive.
Reputation can stick, do feel that Bruno Fernandes and Antony wouldn't have got that penalty and got booked for diving
He’s an attention seeking helmet.
He decides to dive because the contact changes his run and slightly delays his step, which puts him in a less favorable position as the ball drifts away from the goal. To me, the contact has consequences and therefore it should be a (pretty soft) pen, whether he falls or not.
There's no red for these situations for almost decade. If it's a pen, it's a yellow unless it's a dangerous foul or if the player didn''t attempt to play the ball.
That’s not cut and dried. You can still get a pen and red card if it’s blatant and a definite goal. The reason dubravka didn’t get a red card was one, Jota going away from goal and two, there were 2 Newcastle defenders rushing in towards the goal line.
Peter Drury…Salah’s not going to shag you, mate.
How a referee and VAR can look at this and say it is penalty? I really have no answer how. It is like looking at blue sunny sky and someone is saying it is raining. There is no transparency so we will never know what is being said in that VAR room.
Klopp is insufferable.
More xg in one game than we've had in the last 5.
You can be sure that if it was United, Twitter would be on fire with the xG stats saying how it’s a record and so on
Why the hell is salah still on the pitch at the end of the game there? Let him hit the penalty and pull him off. Craziness.
Klopps lost his ring.
Okkkkk. Salah is the best player in the league and has been for some time. Nunez needs to be a super sub again. SoBoSly needs a break. Klopp should unwind tonight on the Peloton.
You can make contact with people you know guys? It’s a contact sport…
Doesn’t make every bit of contact a penalty or foul
Doesn’t make every bit of contact a penalty or foul
I think the rule is that it's a yellow if there is an attempt to play the ball. If you purely stop the man without going for the ball, it's still a red.
In this case however, it's a yellow for the olympic diver.
I just cannot fathom why he didn't just score???
No that's not true. If you deny an obvious goalscoring opportunity and it's inside the box then it's yellow if it's a genuine attempt to play the ball. Covering defenders had nothing to do with it, had that happened just outside the box then he would've been sent off.
Klopp lost his ring doing that cringe thing the cringe Liverpool faithful love, all fuelling the cringe narrative Sky love to tell about Liverpool.
Need a break from football. When's the winter break again?
Need a break from football. When's the winter break again?
Still not sure they can win the league over City with Nunez up front every week, but they created a ridiculous amount of chances in that match.
Not sure how the PL production functions but I'd be surprised if they'd have a person overseeing each broadcast as it's all one production but UEFA is basically dozens of outsourced broadcasts (some national broadcast production from the home team nation).
The graphics with the lines can be done live but they don't show it. For UEFA the graphics come afterwards and it varies how quickly it comes but the verdict always comes before the graphics.
With the PL it could be a consistency thing? They tried doing it one way but it doesn't work well enough so they stopped? I'm just guessing. You basically have to establish what's the minimum you can do in the worst cases (some pitches are much harder to get good angles because of how the cameras can be set up) and everything more you're able to do is a bonus rather than standard.
The thing I don’t get is, recently we’ve seen a trend of var not wanting to make a decision either way, so they send the ref to the monitor. They even did it with the ‘subjective offside’ we had against Fulham.
They love telling the ref to go and have a look for himself. Yet here there was no need? That gets referred to the screen in 100% of cases usually.
That dive was hilarious. Even more hilarious pen was given for that.
Peter Drury likes this.
Not really convinced we can win it. We look pretty vulnerable whenever a team plays through our press, like we can concede at any moment in a match. 34 shots and 15 on target is a good effort though. No Salah for a while will hurt.
Feels like City will win it on 85 points or thereabouts. Nice that there are a few teams close together at the midway point though.
Feels like City will win it on 85 points or thereabouts. Nice that there are a few teams close together at the midway point though.
I'd like to think Liverpool will disappear into the abyss after Salah declines but knowing Klopp he'll find some other brilliant bastard to replace him with eventually.