[Red in STL]

Amorim got his team selection wrong today, starting Casemiro and Ugarte against a team that sits back and is generally defensive was just wrong, this is one game where Bruno and Eriksen would have been way better starting.

 

[Red in STL]

Who cares. I don't anymore. Had my season ticket for over 15 years and gave it up this year. Financially best decision i've made. Should have done it after 2013. I'm 53. Will united ever recover...not in my life time. United is dead. No need for post match threads anymore. Just copy and paste i have to say.

So why are you commenting then?

 

[noelyman]

I could go over our issues but that defensive performance from Forest was epic.

Those two CBs combined cost a quarter of one Harry Maguire. Williams is a whinging prick but what a shift he puts in and that lad Yates is an absolute clogger of a captain.

Fixed that for you. Yates should have been booked umpteen times and wasn't. And rolled around on the floor like he'd been shot anytime anyone went near him, including playacting when tackled by Casemiro resulting in Casemiro getting a yellow card, and ultimately hooked.

Had Yates gotten deservedly booked for his persistent fouling or simulation he'd have been the one on a yellow and this 'warrior' of a captain would have been the one walking a tightrope.

Our attacking play was rubbish (as it's been all season) it wasn't some masterclass from Forest.

 

[doomy20]

So why are you commenting then?

He is right though and you know it

 

[doomy20]

Garnacho is such an annoying person and footballer, we should bite anyones hand of who offers fourty plus mil for that 5.5/10 limitation of an attacker

 

[Red in STL]

He is right though and you know it

He doesn't care and feels the need to broadcast it, well I'm even older than he is and I care, I've seen this club play in the second division which is and was way worse than the current situation

 

[JB7]

He is right though and you know it

In saying that he should have given up the ticket when we stopped winning the league every year? Or that he can just stop caring willy nilly? No, neither of those make him right, it just makes him a glory hunting muppet that's no loss whatsoever. Even in the supposedly horrendous 12 years since, we've still won more major trophies than supporters of most clubs see their sides win in a lifetime.

 

[Martial]

Who cares. I don't anymore. Had my season ticket for over 15 years and gave it up this year. Financially best decision i've made. Should have done it after 2013. I'm 53. Will united ever recover...not in my life time. United is dead. No need for post match threads anymore. Just copy and paste i have to say.

That's the spirit.

Though I understand it completely, especially when the last 12 years of decline have led us to ultimate crescendo of Harry Maguire genuinely being our best striking option.

 

[Pscholes18]

Thought we played really well. The first half passing was very good and tidy. Seem to lost a bit of that after Ugarte went off. Garnacho.....should be fined for 10k for every lazy unnecessary shot he takes.

 

[Moriarty]

He doesn't care and feels the need to broadcast it, well I'm even older than he is and I care, I've seen this club play in the second division which is and was way worse than the current situation

The 2nd Division was a blast. We were young enough and dumb enough to enjoy it. We knew we'd be back and some of those games (Sunderland in particular) were spectacular. We filled away grounds and home games attracted bigger crowds than many 1st Division games. However, the stakes back then were far less. Relegation today would see United crumble.

 

[Marcus]

Deserved a draw.

 

[sparx99]

Garnacho is such an annoying person and footballer, we should bite anyones hand of who offers fourty plus mil for that 5.5/10 limitation of an attacker

He’s driving me mad. I’m never normally one to bring a players personality into criticism of their football but my god his makes it worse.

I genuinely don’t envy our transfer team because you know selling Garnacho would be heavily criticised and they’d point to Elanga or even Rashford & Antony and say it’s the club not the player. Yet selling him may be for the best and may be the brave call.

 

[united for life]

We were not bad actually, at least the opponent was not better than us. But we were very poor in the 3rd end. As if we are not player a 9 and garnacho had a really bad game.

 

[Denis' cuff]

Apart from the glaringly obvious, which has been well documented but we can do little about until the transfer window opens. Still, the elephant in the room remains: every PL keeper would’ve saved or at least got a hand to Elanga’s goal. We needed to improve on DDG, not sign a keeper who makes even more errors and less saves. Really despair at some of these signings. Hope ETH’s agent got a nice slice of the 40m (I don’t)

 

[Tincanalley]

Don’t know why there’s so much negativity, I thought we played really well

It’s the Caf

 

[Ekeke]

Apart from the glaringly obvious, which has been well documented but we can do little about until the transfer window opens. Still, the elephant in the room remains: every PL keeper would’ve saved or at least got a hand to Elanga’s goal. We needed to improve on DDG, not sign a keeper who makes even more errors and less saves. Really despair at some of these signings. Hope ETH’s agent got a nice slice of the 40m (I don’t)

Its not just the keeper who could have done better though.

Dorgu should have had the time and legs to catch up and make a challenge to block a shot and Mazraoui could have got his angles right to block the shot, leaving just enough room for a pass to Gibbs-White on the outside that he could then adjust to if Elanga plays it instead of shooting. It also allows for the Forest players to make a mistake with 2 actions to get the shot on goal instead of 1. Both of those are new signings so that should give a hint at the likelyhood that we'll get out next transfers right, whether its a new keeper or another position.

 

[Gopher Brown]

We need to spend every penny available on attackers in the summer. The quality of our shooting and decision making near goal is appalling. The defence and midfield will have to do for another year.

 

[Steve 007]

I had a realisation about Gernacho. He is capable of great things but they are few and far between. It looks like he’s more likely to become the next Adam’s Traore than Ronaldo. Ok Traore is about 20 times bigger than him but like him, Traore runs at speed and can dribble but has terrible end product.

 

[Josep Dowling]

Trees getting into the Champions League while we struggle.

McCoist is a wanker

I use to love McCoist but noticed he’s a massive ABU when we are playing.

 

[Denis' cuff]

Its not just the keeper who could have done better though.

Dorgu should have had the time and legs to catch up and make a challenge to block a shot and Mazraoui could have got his angles right to block the shot, leaving just enough room for a pass to Gibbs-White on the outside that he could then adjust to if Elanga plays it instead of shooting. It also allows for the Forest players to make a mistake with 2 actions to get the shot on goal instead of 1. Both of those are new signings so that should give a hint at the likelyhood that we'll get out next transfers right, whether its a new keeper or another position.

All absolutely right, mate and several issues right there. Could’ve played it better but could’ve easily taken one for the team at the risk of a yellow and got his legs tangled as soon as most other teams do and nipped the move in the bud. I know we can do little about the striker or keeper positions just yet but I really hope we make quality replacements. In the meantime, we are clearly improving but could do with cutting out the naivety before reinforcements arrive.

 

[Bon1803]

Really don’t think the performance was too bad - actually one of the better ones of the season. Signs of the managers system were there to see.

Obviously the goal was a bit of a disaster but the lack of a serious threat in attack is more of a worry. A lot of possession and territory without a lot of really dangerous moments.

Not sure why so many are scapegoating Garnacho for this. Certainly not one of his better games but he tried to impact the game , yes some bad decisions and a tendency to shoot to much but take him out and the threat is reduced.

It’s just a suck it up in the league until the end of the season and hope we can bring in some players who pose a general goal threat and scare teams. It’s been much worse than this game this season. We really should have beaten the 3rd place team away from home here given how that game went.

No back to back league wins this season is quite a low though. Never even realised until it was mentioned in the commentary - that’s crazy for united.

 

[Jaap]

Onana: saying something that I was happy that he kept playing the ball on the deck & not needlessly booting it up top; 6/10
Mazraoui: usual steady display; 6/10
De Ligt: thought he had a decent game; 7/10
Yoro: that tackle on Elanga; 7/10
Dalot: quiet but mature; 6.5/10
Ugarte: did not understand his substitution at half-time?! 5/10
Casemiro: had so much time on the ball in the middle of the park but did very little with it 6/10
Dorgu: mixed performance: good energy but some of his passing was poor; 6/10
Bruno: our best player: if he leaves in the summer & we don’t replace him well, we are doomed; 7/10
Garnacho: Nani 2.0, lively but largely ineffective; 6.5/10
Zirkzee: hardly involved at all; 5/10

Hojlund: sigh… 5/10

 

[Andersons Dietician]

In parts felt we played some really good stuff but then when it mattered someone played a lazy pass which killed all momentum or just allowed them to get back.

Also I think in the first half alone there were 6 or more occasions when we had someone out in space and it was a simple pass and everytime we played it behind that progressing player.

The one that was really annoying was Bruno in the 2nd half, we played a nice bit of football, in to Rasmus he killed it and moved it to Bruno quickly, then the next ball is out wide switching the play and he plays a stupid little chip kinda pass like he is trying to put it round the corner.

It was slow, it was off the ground just killed all momentum with that one lazy casual pass.

Just annoying that we don’t seem to understand a very simple basic principle of football.

There were signs however of better days to come

 

[Gordon S]

That was a grim watch. One quick counterattack from Elanga and then they just play Mourinho defense for most of the game and we don`t have the last bit of quality to break them down. They are good at it and more teams then us struggle with this. Boring but what can you do.
We looked rusty as we often do after a break but looked ok overall

 

[macheda14]

Onana: saying something that I was happy that he kept playing the ball on the deck & not needlessly booting it up top; 6/10
Mazraoui: usual steady display; 6/10
De Ligt: thought he had a decent game; 7/10
Yoro: that tackle on Elanga; 7/10
Dalot: quiet but mature; 6.5/10
Ugarte: did not understand his substitution at half-time?! 5/10
Casemiro: had so much time on the ball in the middle of the park but did very little with it 6/10
Dorgu: mixed performance: good energy but some of his passing was poor; 6/10
Bruno: our best player: if he leaves in the summer & we don’t replace him well, we are doomed; 7/10
Garnacho: Nani 2.0, lively but largely ineffective; 6.5/10
Zirkzee: hardly involved at all; 5/10

Hojlund: sigh… 5/10

I’d bite your left hand off for 2009-2011 Nani right now.

 

[NewGlory]

Forrest are solidly 3rd place, we are barely 13th, maybe 14th soon. Nothing shocking here. Former glory days do not count

If anything, United probably played better than their current position warrants

 

[Mullet_Man]

Yes we were the better side but we are still not doing the basics well, the simple passes so we don't lump the ball forward and lose it, Dorgu giving away the ball countless times. The shooting on site from Garnacho, take another touch and get into a better position.
We are still too honest at times, the amount of falling about Forrest were doing, taking time on the floor to slow down momentum, we are just not street wise.
Garnacho should have pulled down Elanga for the goal, and took the yellow.

Basic things which I think the boss is trying to get us to do but we are just doing. Bruno does it at times and that's about it.

 

[Trex]

Someone should inform Elanga, United moving him on wasn't really personal.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

The best part of the game was seeing Mount. We could really use him in this type of set up, just praying he can stay healthy.

 

[Gordon'sHill]

Onana: saying something that I was happy that he kept playing the ball on the deck & not needlessly booting it up top; 6/10
Mazraoui: usual steady display; 6/10
De Ligt: thought he had a decent game; 7/10
Yoro: that tackle on Elanga; 7/10
Dalot: quiet but mature; 6.5/10
Ugarte: did not understand his substitution at half-time?! 5/10
Casemiro: had so much time on the ball in the middle of the park but did very little with it 6/10
Dorgu: mixed performance: good energy but some of his passing was poor; 6/10
Bruno: our best player: if he leaves in the summer & we don’t replace him well, we are doomed; 7/10
Garnacho: Nani 2.0, lively but largely ineffective; 6.5/10
Zirkzee: hardly involved at all; 5/10

Hojlund: sigh… 5/10

How is Onana a 6. That shot from Elanga wasn't even in the corner, he should be a couple of yards further forward to narrow the angle then actually dive for the ball rather than fall sideways. Also, he may not have booted it long but he takes so long on the ball and refuses to try even a slightly difficult pass. Awful.

 

[Irishman]

The best part of the game was seeing Mount. We could really use him in this type of set up, just praying he can stay healthy.

I have seen absolutely nothing from Mount since he came to club nearly 2 years ago. Add to fact that he was injured for a year at Chelsea for a year before he joined us means he's done Jack all in 3 years. Disaster of a signing and one hardly to get enthusiastic about changing our fortunes.

 

[Dans]

Our "attackers" are absolute garbage. Should have played Maguire as centre forward all match.

He had more impact in 10 minutes than Hojlund has in a full half, or full match for that matter. He put himself about and got on the end of crosses which is what the latter does not do.

 

[Glorio]

Watching Elanga now post match interview: did he get cocky or confident?

Maybe a bit more confident. Came across as very humle actually

 

[trevor newnham]

Apart from the obvious (finishing), I thought it's the best we've played for some time. Did they have 2 shots on goal? 3rd in the table ? Bit like Leicester when they won the League; they'll disappear soon too. It was encouraging. Yoro is going to be alright. But of course we need a good striker - not so sure Delap is the answer Obi nowhere near ready - and probably a keeper. But I'm sure we're getting there

 

[SonOfFergie]

One thing you shouldn't let them do is score early. What do we do? Let them score early. Such an annoying team to play. Whining, dirty, referee also helped with his interpretation of fouls. United had its chances, didn't generally play to poor but quality is really dire in attacking areas. Zirkzee started brightly but faded in second half, Hojlund anonymous can't win a duel to save his life, if Garnacho is currently generating most of the threat and is a s usual let down with his finishing then we need to throw all the money into attacking areas in the summer. Game itself was irrelevant in the grand scheme of this season. We have all our eggs in Europa league basket now.

 

[justsomebloke]

That's the spirit.

Though I understand it completely, especially when the last 12 years of decline have led us to ultimate crescendo of Harry Maguire genuinely being our best striking option.

Let's not get carried away here. Harry Maguire is our best striking option when there's 5 minutes on the clock, we're down one and the opponent is just packing his box to get to the finish line. Not otherwise.

 

[Garethw]

Garnacho is such an annoying person and footballer, we should bite anyones hand of who offers fourty plus mil for that 5.5/10 limitation of an attacker

And yet he was literally the only attacker doing anything.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

I have seen absolutely nothing from Mount since he came to club nearly 2 years ago. Add to fact that he was injured for a year at Chelsea for a year before he joined us means he's done Jack all in 3 years. Disaster of a signing and one hardly to get enthusiastic about changing our fortunes.

That’s the spirit!

 

[justsomebloke]

And yet he was literally the only attacker doing anything.

But what did he actually accomplish? Bruno, Dalot and Casemiro was 90% of our attack yesterday. Garnacho - and Dorgu too - generally just squandered whatever they were given.

 

[Oranges038]

In parts felt we played some really good stuff but then when it mattered someone played a lazy pass which killed all momentum or just allowed them to get back.

Also I think in the first half alone there were 6 or more occasions when we had someone out in space and it was a simple pass and everytime we played it behind that progressing player.

The one that was really annoying was Bruno in the 2nd half, we played a nice bit of football, in to Rasmus he killed it and moved it to Bruno quickly, then the next ball is out wide switching the play and he plays a stupid little chip kinda pass like he is trying to put it round the corner.

It was slow, it was off the ground just killed all momentum with that one lazy casual pass.

Just annoying that we don’t seem to understand a very simple basic principle of football.

There were signs however of better days to come

For me this is one of the most frustrating parts, ball is in a decent attacking area, then an nothing sideways pass to no one and they go on the counter. Happens way too often. Dorgu did it 3 or 4 times down the left.