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Nottingham Forest 0:2 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Sun, 16 April 2023

Really happy with that. I know it’s just Forest as my mate said (Leeds fan) but with the injuries we have and the team probably lacking a bit of confidence after Seville this was just the tonic. How many times in recent seasons have we had bad results at teams like that? I thought Forest might have offered a bit more to be honest but I do think United didn’t let them really.
 
Another clean sheet. Antony did well although still wasteful. Bruno was incredible. Deserved the win, could have been a lot more. Hoping the back up players get confidence from this as we need them badly in next few weeks.
 
Critical win. A glimmer of hope for Top 4.

6 points clear of Spurs in 5th with a game in hand and only about 7 or 8 games left.

Spurs in their last 4 games have blown a 3-1 lead vs Southampton and conceded a last minute equaliser, blown a 1-0 lead and 11vs10 advantage vs Everton and conceded a last minute equaliser, and also managed to lose at home to Bournemouth 3-2 by conceding a last minute winner. They're absolute shite.

How on earth do you only have "a glimmer of hope" for top 4? :lol: :wenger:
 
Won't be sad if Forest go down. Bonkers transfer strategy
 
6 points clear of Spurs in 5th with a game in hand and only about 7 or 8 games left.

Spurs in their last 4 games have blown a 3-1 lead vs Southampton and conceded a last minute equaliser, blown a 1-0 lead and 11vs10 advantage vs Everton and conceded a last minute equaliser, and also managed to lose at home to Bournemouth 3-2 by conceding a last minute winner. They're absolute shite.

How on earth do you only have "a glimmer of hope" for top 4? :lol: :wenger:

They also play us, Newcastle and Liverpool back to back. They will be out of the top 4 race by the end of the month.
 
Really enjoyed that. First half their corners were edge of your seat stuff, but Neville identified it quite clearly that the gaps they left in midfield were an infinite resource for Eriksen and Bruno to wreak havoc. Antony coming on too, that second goal was a thing of beauty, the pass and the composure from Dalot.

Thought Weghorst was lucky not to see red for that punch.

What happened to Sabitzer?
 
Good performance and well deserved win. Could have been 5 of 6 but for Navas. Forest were poor though and far too open.
 
Very proud of the squad, especially the attitude right from the start. Short-sighted Antony detractors can pound sand. Huge win on n hopeful way to top 4.

Lindelof was class to me.
 
Great weekend for us. Let's not get carried away by the performance against an atrocious Forest side.
Well done by ten Hag to get the best out of the team that was available.
I hope that Martial, Eriksen, Sancho, Dalot, Antony etc. can stay fit so that we somehow get over the line and grab top 4.
 
If Spurs beat us, they're back in it.
Also Aston Villa and Brighton are in form.

It's tricky

Brighton and Aston Villa have no chance of catching us, unless we suffer a complete collapse. Spurs are unlikely to do so, even if they beat us (and Liverpool and Villa away). Newcastle is the only team with a plausible path to challenging us for third.
 
Jimmy is correct. Maguire played very well.
After the first 15 minutes. Early on he wasn’t playing well - got a bad yellow and hit the post with an own goal attempt. After 15 minutes, yes he recovered and didn’t make any other mistakes
 
Such a big win given what has happened this weekend. Everybody played well. Roll on Thursday and lets see what we can do. They say Rashford has a chance for Thursday? Let's hope so.
Any chance of having Shaw back? Might need him at centre half.
 
Brighton and Aston Villa have no chance of catching us, unless we suffer a complete collapse. Spurs are unlikely to do so, even if they beat us (and Liverpool and Villa away). Newcastle is the only team with a plausible path to challenging us for third.
Thanks for calming the nerves :)
 
Thanks for calming the nerves :)

A bit on the maths:

Let's compare what the different teams need to get to a given threshold, say 71 points, which seems to me the lowest number you'd consider to mean safe passage into the top 4.

We would need 12 points over our last 8 games. For instance, if we beat Wolves, Chelsea and Fulham at home and Bournemouth away, we could afford to lose our remaining four games (Spurs A, Villa H, Brighton A, West Ham A). We need 1.50 pts per game, and have 1.90 per game so far this season. In Other words, we can afford to significantly drop our results compared to the season as a whole. This clearly means we have every opportunity to finish well above the threshold needed for top 4, if we finish the season reasonably well. 75 seems more than realistic.

Newcastle would need 15 points in their last 8 games. They could afford, for example, to lose at home to Arsenal and draw away to Spurs, Leeds and Chelsea if they win their remainder (a very winnable sequence of Everton A, Southampton H, Leicester H, Brighton H). This would require them to perform on the same level as they have so far this season (1.88 ppg, 1.90 for the season so far). This makes for a very credible 3rd place challenge - it's not that hard to imagine them pipping us by 3 points in the remaining games.

Spurs can only drop 3 more points in their remaining 7 games to get to 71 - for example, losing away to Newcastle and winning all of the rest (including us, and away to Liverpool and Villa). That would mean 2.57 pts per game, compared to which they have taken 1.70 across this season. In other words, they'd have to go on an absolute tear. Can't see many signs of that. In my opinion, their top 4 aspirations effectively died with the home loss to Bournemouth.

Brighton would need 22 points in their remaining 9 games. That would allow them one loss and one draw, the rest must be won. With City, Arsenal, United, Newcastle and Villa remaining on the menu, that would be quite a feat. They're at 1.7 pts per game this season, getting to 71 would take 2.44 pts per game for the rest of the season. They'll be gunning for something like 63-65 points, which should suffice for 6th place and Europa League qualification, and that won't be easy either.

Villa would have to win all of their remaining seven games to get to 71. That would be twice their season ppg of 1.50, and would include beating all of United, Newcastle, Liverpool, Spurs and Brighton. That's not going to happen.

Then there's Liverpool, who could get to 71 but need to win all of their remaining nine games to do so. That seems very unlikely unless they suddenly hit a kind of form they haven't shown all season, but their run-in is by some distance the easiest of all the teams mentioned here. Their only big opponents left are Spurs and Villa, both at home. Two more points dropped, and they're toast, as far as CL goes.
 
A bit on the maths:

Let's compare what the different teams need to get to a given threshold, say 71 points, which seems to me the lowest number you'd consider to mean safe passage into the top 4.

We would need 12 points over our last 8 games. For instance, if we beat Wolves, Chelsea and Fulham at home and Bournemouth away, we could afford to lose our remaining four games (Spurs A, Villa H, Brighton A, West Ham A). We need 1.50 pts per game, and have 1.90 per game so far this season. In Other words, we can afford to significantly drop our results compared to the season as a whole. This clearly means we have every opportunity to finish well above the threshold needed for top 4, if we finish the season reasonably well. 75 seems more than realistic.

Newcastle would need 15 points in their last 8 games. They could afford, for example, to lose at home to Arsenal and draw away to Spurs, Leeds and Chelsea if they win their remainder (a very winnable sequence of Everton A, Southampton H, Leicester H, Brighton H). This would require them to perform on the same level as they have so far this season (1.88 ppg, 1.90 for the season so far). This makes for a very credible 3rd place challenge - it's not that hard to imagine them pipping us by 3 points in the remaining games.

Spurs can only drop 3 more points in their remaining 7 games to get to 71 - for example, losing away to Newcastle and winning all of the rest (including us, and away to Liverpool and Villa). That would mean 2.57 pts per game, compared to which they have taken 1.70 across this season. In other words, they'd have to go on an absolute tear. Can't see many signs of that. In my opinion, their top 4 aspirations effectively died with the home loss to Bournemouth.

Brighton would need 22 points in their remaining 9 games. That would allow them one loss and one draw, the rest must be won. With City, Arsenal, United, Newcastle and Villa remaining on the menu, that would be quite a feat. They're at 1.7 pts per game this season, getting to 71 would take 2.44 pts per game for the rest of the season. They'll be gunning for something like 63-65 points, which should suffice for 6th place and Europa League qualification, and that won't be easy either.

Villa would have to win all of their remaining seven games to get to 71. That would be twice their season ppg of 1.50, and would include beating all of United, Newcastle, Liverpool, Spurs and Brighton. That's not going to happen.

Then there's Liverpool, who could get to 71 but need to win all of their remaining nine games to do so. That seems very unlikely unless they suddenly hit a kind of form they haven't shown all season, but their run-in is by some distance the easiest of all the teams mentioned here. Their only big opponents left are Spurs and Villa, both at home. Two more points dropped, and they're toast, as far as CL goes.
Brilliantly done cheers
 
Not the biggest test, but still a very good day at the office.Everyone did what they had to do and Bruno (for me) played his best game this season. The midfield of Bruno/Eriksen/Casemiro showed what they can do given a chance.
Enjoyed my supper watching MOTD2.
 
Why were 5 out of 11 of our players all wearing the same colour boots yesterday (pink and yellow)?

I'm just rewatching the match this morning and it's making it difficult at times to tell them all apart from distance.
 
They gave Trump 28% chance against Hillary. duck em
28% doesn't mean it won't happen. It means that it will happen 28 times out of every 100. That's nearly a 1 in 3 chance. Always amazes me that people don't understand how statistics work.
 
28% doesn't mean it won't happen. It means that it will happen 28 times out of every 100. That's nearly a 1 in 3 chance. Always amazes me that people don't understand how statistics work.

Read Kahneman (if you haven't already, you won't regret it)! The human brain is fascinatingly hard-wired to resist thinking accurately about probability and risk.
 
Solid win after a slightly shaky start. I expected the handball to be given but I guess it was one of those 50/50 decisions so technically correct to not overturn it.

Thought Maguire was a little unfortunate to pick up the early booking, when he then misplaced that pass to AWB and the crowd got on to him you feared what could happen but to be fair he settled down nicely and played okay. Lindelof also did pretty well so hopefully that's a decent confidence boost to the pair of them.

Good to see Antony starting to make more of an impact too. Can still be very frustrating at times but at least you can see the potential. Maybe sometimes we forget he's still quite young so that inconsistency will be there, I do get the feeling that with a bit of patience he will become a regular contributor of goals and assists.
 
They gave Trump 28% chance against Hillary. duck em

Head says we have Top 4 in the bag but the heart is another matter - 10 years of emotional abuse, I guess. Also, 538 has been riding the coattails of their 2008 US election prediction all the way to the bank, well into the 2nd decade.
 
Good win. Hopefully we'll get some players back soon to wrap up 3rd.
 


Been watching this guy for awhile now - really good at breaking down our play.
 
Even though Forest were poor, I was still impressed with the performance, as our quality really dictated the game. That midfield three of Casimero, Bruno and Eriksen works v well, those three make us play on a different level, all players play better when they play, and in possession we have purpose and assurance, and carry a threat. It's great, just great to watch.

Great to see Dalot, Antony get goals... McT has scored recently, Sabitzer, Martial too.. this is so important and needs to continue. This is key.

Maguire played well, and I want him to get that confidence back and dominate games. He needs to get back to that space. He could have a great end of season... Lindeholf, I worry about because he doesn't really lead. Martinez, Shaw, Varane.. all have that authority about their play, and Dalot, WB, Maguire and Lindehold need to raise their games and match this, on a consistent basis. That's the key.

But we were v impressive, v organised. Brighton will be a belter of a match, could be a classic, and they will test us. But again, I think we'll be ok. Our forwards have the opportunities to be absolute heroes in these final weeks! Winning us big games, go down in our memories and history. I hope they recognise this.
 

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126,19,18
  • Man Utd win
  • Nottingham Forest win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 25% Nottingham Forest 0:2 Man Utd
  • 23% Nottingham Forest 1:2 Man Utd
  • 14% Nottingham Forest 1:3 Man Utd
  • 9% Nottingham Forest 1:1 Man Utd
  • 6% Nottingham Forest 0:3 Man Utd
  • 5% Nottingham Forest 0:1 Man Utd
  • 4% Nottingham Forest 2:0 Man Utd
  • 4% Nottingham Forest 2:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Nottingham Forest 1:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Nottingham Forest 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Nottingham Forest 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Nottingham Forest 2:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Nottingham Forest 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Nottingham Forest 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Nottingham Forest 2:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Nottingham Forest 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Nottingham Forest 3:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Nottingham Forest 4:0 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Nottingham Forest
  2. Man Utd
Possession
32% 68%
Shots
6 22
Shots on Target
0 8
Corners
4 9
Fouls
9 9

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