[Kaos]

I really thought you were going to have us at 1-0. We were bricking it and you were buzzing. Coutinho's goal killed it but Van Gaal's half time team talk must have been a dull one as I didn't see a lot in the second half from United.

Martial is class and had Clyne's number the entire game.

Stop being nice!

Let me hate!

 

[Man of Steel]

Need to replace the CEO, appoint a DoF and change the manager - in that order.

Fully agree. But it won't happen will it

Giggs will become manager and Fellaini and Rooney will both get new five year deals...

I'm having a crap day, ignore me.

 

[Get In Scholesy]

So many things wrong with the entirety of the tie. As others have mentioned, spineless, cowardly, ragged, limp, gutless, etc.

We only played somewhat decent for 43 minutes in the first half today in the entire tie. That there says enough, didn't deserve to go through.

 

[Theonas]

Didn't we outplay them at Anfield last season? In any case, I hear what you're saying, but showing some guts and determination in that first leg might have yielded something.... you have to try to get that away goal. It's that lack of application in that first leg that makes me disappointed.

Yes we did but if you remember, we all agreed that that was a first. It was the exception that proved the rule. But yes, I agree with your point about showing guts. I usually think this talk of passion and guts is ridiculous but in derbies, especially in England, It really is the most important ingredient. I am okey with not outplaying Liverpool at Anfield but it is not acceptable to be bullied by them like we did.

 

[Jazz]

Yes we did but if you remember, we all agreed that that was a first. It was the exception that proved the rule. But yes, I agree with your point about showing guts. I usually think this talk of passion and guts is ridiculous but in derbies, especially in England, It really is the most important ingredient. I am okey with not outplaying Liverpool at Anfield but it is not acceptable to be bullied by them like we did.

Completely agree.

 

[sglowrider]

Never mind. Fear not but LVG did a mopo and sacrificed this tin cup competition to focus on top 4 and FA cup.

Genius.

 

[Klopper76]

Stop being nice!

Let me hate!

You can hate on Sturridge all you want. I'm fed up of watching him sulk about the pitch.

 

[K2K]

Skim read through most of the comments.

Saw that and thought I'd misread it . Went back, saw it again and then saw who posted it, and it made sense.

 

[Devil may care]

The second half was disappointing, at least Martial, Rashford and Lingard were still trying but there was the air of defeatist mentality stinking out Old Trafford in the second half when we should have been really fired up and going at them to at least when our home leg of the tie.

I see lots of people defending Fellaini and Carrick tonight but to me there lack of mobility off the ball is why Coutinho and co ran through us with such ease, midfield is not purely about what you do on the ball.

 

[Siorac]

The second half was pathetic. No fight, just limp resignation. The players seemed to have given up completely and just wanted the game to be over.

At least in the first half we clearly wanted the win. Liverpool were always going to score, they were dangerous but we were causing them problems.

 

[diarm]

Some amount of shite being pedaled after that!

Scholes talking about us letting Welbeck go as if he would've fixed the issues out there tonight. Rashford and Martial were the least of our problems and it's not like he would have played ahead of anyone else.

Chris Waddle saying "A club like Manchester United usually buy ready-made players. The players they've brought in are all learning their trade and it's a hard place to learn your trade."

Van Gaal saying we created enough chances to win.

Spoofers, the lot of them.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

We've just been knocked out of Europe by fecking Liverpool and look at this thread. Barely 3 pages.

People can hardly get angry anymore, it's just total apathy now.

 

[Oo0AahCantona]

Goldsteins just walked out on the sports bar, absolutely fuming

 

[Natener]

Some amount of shite being pedaled after that!

Scholes talking about us letting Welbeck go as if he would've fixed the issues out there tonight. Rashford and Martial were the least of our problems and it's not like he would have played ahead of anyone else.

Chris Waddle saying "A club like Manchester United usually buy ready-made players. The players they've brought in are all learning their trade and it's a hard place to learn your trade."

Van Gaal saying we created enough chances to win.

Spoofers, the lot of them.

He really said that? Tired of his mentality. I would like us to try and create more than enough chances and actually win, but bet that's not happening anytime soon.

 

[Stretford End Phil]

The reliance on untried young players reached its nadir tonight as their energy was zapped by a sucker punch in the last seconds of the first half. We have bumbled along all season but now there is no philosophy or pathetic excuse to deflect attention from our rapid decline.

We need a new plan and manager. The ridiculous subs tonight exposed the absurdity of LVG's football - "but we didnt lose tonight" - the philosophy of the headcase. Counting the days until LVG is gone.

 

[SqueakyWeasel]

Jeeeeesus … it's a fecking leprechaun

 

[Who Ate All Depay's]

I swear watching Fellaini for 90 minutes is having a detrimental effect on my mental health. He is so poorly equipped to be a United player i genuinely feel sorry for him.

 

[El Zoido]

We've just been knocked out of Europe by fecking Liverpool and look at this thread. Barely 3 pages.

People can hardly get angry anymore, it's just total apathy now.

It was all too predictable.

 

[Americano]

Eliminated by the worst Liverpool team in my lifetime.

Hi RAWK!

 

[Raw]

We've just been knocked out of Europe by fecking Liverpool and look at this thread. Barely 3 pages.

People can hardly get angry anymore, it's just total apathy now.

Tie was lost at Anfield really. Just can't muster up the effort to be pissed off about this now.

 

[Dumbstar]

Out to a bang average Liverpool team. Sad.

I'm hearing that a lot. Ok, we're not exactly Bayern but you're underselling De Gea over the two legs. If it wasn't for him the aggregate scoreline would easily have read 5-1 or more.

Sturridge played shite, coming back from injury and his attitude seems to stink. Henderson has been horrendous over the two legs, probably as bad as Fellaini. Coutinho is still pulling out of challenges/runs because he's not in full flow yet (honestly). Milner was our LB and that won't happen with Flannagan back in.

In a nutshell we can, and hopefully will, play better.

 

[bri2013]

Not great but a point is better than nothing.

I think it puts us top of the going out of the europa league table!

 

[TheReligion]

I'm hearing that a lot. Ok, we're not exactly Bayern but you're underselling De Gea over the two legs. If it wasn't for him the aggregate scoreline would easily have read 5-1 or more.

Sturridge played shite, coming back from injury and his attitude seems to stink. Henderson has been horrendous over the two legs, probably as bad as Fellaini. Coutinho is still pulling out of challenges/runs because he's not in full flow yet (honestly). Milner was our LB and that won't happen with Flannagan back in.

In a nutshell we can, and hopefully will, play better.

We're both shite, lets be honest. Don't get carried away with yourselves.

 

[Hed Zitin]

We've just been knocked out of Europe by fecking Liverpool and look at this thread. Barely 3 pages.

People can hardly get angry anymore, it's just total apathy now.

Same shit is said most weeks, so what's the point?

 

[PieCrust]

Not surprised and can't really say that I give a shit. This crap has been going on since Nov/Dec. I don't care anymore; I just want LVG gone.

 

[arthurka]

I can't start cause I am afraid I couldnt stop.. Don't know where I would start or where I should end.. Shit I thought I would never say that but I cant stand us.. What have they done too us? What have we become? Where does this stop? Or better where will they allow us to go? How far? I'm officially off the United wagon until this idiot goes for good... I will not let him ruin United for me but I can't do this anymore...

 

[The Purley King]

We don't have a disastrously poor squad, we are just managed by a cnut.
Wtf is mata doing on the right fecking wing? Wtf is fellaini doing in the club let alone the first xi. I like Carrick but he needs some legs to go with him. Playing him and fellaini is fecking suicide.
Positives were Rashford, martial and Ddg.
Perhaps the only thing I've ever agreed about Trevor Francis with was that if clyne is England's best right back we are fecked. He was woeful.

 

[mu77]

dipper back 4 , FFS , 1 goal 180 mins.

 

[Sassy Colin]

Well, I suppose all those kebabs on the way home from the pub after the football weren't doing me any good.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

At no point in the second half did we even look remotely like a team that needed to score goals with any sort of urgency

 

[Americano]

At no point in the second half did we even look remotely like a team that needed to score goals with any sort of urgency

I know, I kept thinking, we need THREE goals, we barely even got started finding the first one. And the clock ticked on as we meekly submitted to our fate.

 

[goldenballs]

Just after we scored our goal, we had them on the run. What did we do? Attack? No! We passed the ball from virtually their 18yd line all the way back to DDG!!

 

[Nik70]

Great start but their goal killed the tie and any confidence we had. LVG's substitutions were baffling - two fullbacks and a holding midfielder when 3 goals are needed.

Highlight of the game for me was Schweinsteiger smashing that little b*tch Lallana.

 

[groovyalbert]

It was very exciting for the first 44 minutes - end to end; multiple openings and chances - but their goal killed off the tie. I thought we started well and with the right attitude in what was always going to be a massive task, but one that we never really rose to. You can point at various moments in tonight's game and bemoan their outcome but ultimately it was the entire 90 minutes at Anfield that determined this one. Liverpool thoroughly deserved to progress.

I find it very odd reacting to this match and tie in general. On the one hand I'm furious at how we played at Anfield (understandably) and in the second half tonight, notably from the 70th minute (or so) onwards. We totally threw the towel in and gave up/tired/lacked drive and determination as a squad/the lot. One more goal would have whipped the crowed up and it would have, at the very least, been an exciting and the correct way to go out of any competition. Even without the goal, keep attacking. The performance by the team in the last 20 minutes can be summarised by Schweinsteiger's cameo which was, in short, totally shocking. On the other hand I feel incredibly apathetic towards the whole outcome - maybe due to it being the Europa League - but I fear it is symptomatic of an apathy being felt around the entire club right now, going far deeper than the fans at it's surface and this particular tie.

We've been saying for a while now that it seems we're waiting for summer before making a change, doing something that will attempt to halt our slide down the Premier League pecking order, but I feel like we've been perpetually "waiting" ever since LVG came into the club; to see what his philosophy will bring, when his signings will perform, the progress actually progressing. Even before LVG Moyes' reign from October onwards essentially consisted of waiting for the inevitable sacking, and the summer before that season a seemingly endless wait for transfers that never happened; we're still discussing buying some of the same players now as we did then. This "wait" has surrounded the club ever since Ferguson left and I honestly think it's more fitting to describe us, not as a club in transition, but one in limbo as nothing appears to be happening to change this. Frozen by the recent past, internal politics and general lack of leadership.

To bring it back round to tonights match and the apathy I felt about it I feel that this is what is ultimately driving that mood. It's not the realisation that we've just been knocked out of a major European competition by our bitterest rivals, but that this - tonight, the past few weeks/months/season(s) - has been totally self-inflicted by our indecisions and inactions in getting to the root causes of our decline.

One thing that's for certain is that Liverpool now have a manager who will get the absolute best out of his players, inspire and unite them, and make sure they know exactly what to do when they walk out onto any pitch. Klopp has managed to do this with a squad of players that aren't strictly his "own", having only had one transfer window - a January one at that - to add or trim the squad, yet these players clearly believe in and trust him more than any currently playing under Van Gaal. LVG has had time to build his team - and the resources have been provided, the massive changes in personnel implemented - and I would argue that Klopp has already taken Liverpool further than LVG has us.

 

[Kraftwerker]

17 shots. 3 on target.

Piss-poor.

 

[LLMU]

misery continues ....

 

[Will Singh]

I've had to sit in a pub with Irish Liverpool fans taking this shit, although I got respect for being out numbered I don't believe the shit LVG has put out at half time. Absolutely bollocks, bunch of cowards, I'll leave it there as I've had a few beers!

 

[VeevaVee]

We've just been knocked out of Europe by fecking Liverpool and look at this thread. Barely 3 pages.

People can hardly get angry anymore, it's just total apathy now.

Innit.

It's hard to get passionate about it all at the mo.

 

[Rood]

Actually played pretty well first 45mins - we were open ourselves but created several decent openings and deserved to be ahead

but the timing of their goal was horrific and just killed us dead - second half very disappointing, even though the tie was over we should have still been going to win the game

 

[sglowrider]

Goldsteins just walked out on the sports bar, absolutely fuming

Jason was egging him on. Plus the glory glory united clip just pushed him over the edge.