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Manchester United 0:3 Bournemouth

Post-match discussion


Sun, 22 December 2024

Ah the "we won on XG" merchants all over it as expected.

We used to laugh at the scouse for their "moral" wins.
I think it’s less a moral win, and more of a talking a deep breath and trying to maintain some perspective
 
It was poor from all around and you new it was going to happen as soon as Bruno misses those chances for 1-1.. chase the game lose another goal then heads drop lose another one this has happened for last 3 years not just today.
We got poor pros at the club until Amorin can get rid of them same shit .
 
Lets be honest guys
Today we have been schooled by a better well organised and better run club than ours.
Amorin needs time and patience with this lot.
 
The conceding from set pieces is just at comical.levels now, any team rocking up against us now now they start a goal up as they are bound to get 1 set piece in 90 min!

Then there's the obligatory brain fart per match, goal no. 2 and then the opp just have to concede less than 7 chances and know they've won the game. Being at OT today watching team at close quarters, the fear in their eyes having to progress the ball through midfield is so obvious. Inevitably giving the ball away from where teams start their attacks. I cannot see how any manager can eliminate mistakes, teach them how to pass the ball, track their runners, be compact, be able to run with ball, take their chances....the list is endless and no training time to do it. I'd be amazed if we trouble the top 10 this season!
 
When you leave out our win away to City under strange circumstances (misplaced pass led to a penalty) & that 2-1 v Plzen, it’s been two wins in nine games which is abysmal while shipping 17 goals & leading only twice.
 
Our central midfield did very poorly today, they couldn't keep the ball at all.

Amad seems at such a higher level than anyone else in that center, he's struggling to find anyone he can play with.
 
I had predicted a 2-2 draw before the match. I think the Man City result last weekend put the wool over some folks eyes on here thinking because we had beaten City last weekend, that we were definitely going to win again today.
Yeah that City win was nice but so obvious it would happen at times and at times we'd lose other games. If Amorim is to be successful it will still take time and it won't happen this season.
 
Seen progress in the last few games but today we reverted back to how we were previously, sloppily giving away the ball throughout. Think these games are always going to happen with these players though.
 
Our players commit too many basic errors like misplaced passes, our corners often don’t get past the first defender. We lack a player who can shoot from distance, someone dangerous in air, and someone capable of posing a direct threat from set-pieces. Many players also struggle with decision-making.
On top of that, we waste numerous chances and have a defense and goalkeeper prone to making errors.
We simply lack quality.

There's nothing else to do, but to trust Amorim and give him time to take care of this mess.
 
Ah the "we won on XG" merchants all over it as expected.

We used to laugh at the scouse for their "moral" wins.

Basically saying we could have scored 4 or 5, but it's more legit now because someone put actually numbers to it.

Doesn't make a jot of difference when you are just giving the opposition shit goals every game.
 
Individual mistakes costs us and as poor as we were, we had chances to score. I'm glad in some way cause sooner the manager knows this now than maybe after a fake bounce....
 
Might as well just accept this is who we are now. You'll save yourself a lot of heartache. Can't see us doing any impactful spending as it appears we have no money.
 
When you leave out our win away to City under strange circumstances (misplaced pass led to a penalty) & that 2-1 v Plzen, it’s been two wins in nine games which is abysmal while shipping 17 goals & leading only twice.
We look so much better though remember...it's just individual mistakes etc
 
I think as bad as it was, we still created chances and should have scored a few more ourselves.
That late yoro chance, the Bruno chance, the garnacho chance, the hoijlund chance, and then some good play leading to a few players being free and blazing it off target (amad, Bruno, Maz)

It seems grim cos losing at home and by three is not good. But at the same time you kinda see the plan. We just make stupid mistakes.

Another set piece goal conceded. You would think the players would try a lie giving away cheap set pieces when players are not going anywhere given our situation.
And Maz who has been one of our best players being daft and diving in when it wasnt needed.

There is something there. We kinda need to get through this season and have a bit of a change in the summer for some personnel, try to recoup some money and invest in more players who suit united (technical, good attitude, not scared of challenges, fitness, etc)

That way even if they don't work for amorim and he flops the next guy can come in and not have to worry about it.
 
Losing 3-0 stings a lot and people are bing overly dramatic. It was not a 3-0 game.

We were still in the game and very much on the brink to come back, until Mazroui gave away that idiotic penalty. And then it became all chaotic trying to make up for 2 goals, so 3rd goal happened. It happens, in isolation I wouldn't worry about this game. Given that we were already 13th, it just added oil to fire
 
Losing 3-0 stings a lot and people are bing overly dramatic. It was not a 3-0 game.

We were still in the game and very much on the brink to come back, until Mazroui gave away that idiotic penalty. And then it became all chaotic trying to make up for 2 goals, so 3rd goal happened. It happens, in isolation I wouldn't worry about this game. Given that we were already 13th, it just added oil to fire
Yes it was. Every 3-0 game is a 3-0 game.

Not sure what you expected a Manchester United forum to be like after another 3-0 defeat at home to Bournemouth.
 
United have lacked goals all season, so when a few sloppy goals are given away, it's gonna be a very tough day.

At 1-0 United always have a chance, but after Maz gave them a second it was all over, United just don't have a Ronaldo or Rooney anymore to get them out of trouble.

Also its a reoccurring trait with the team after a big win against a top team, they give a lacklustre performance the next game to undo all the good work. Classic United atm.
 
These players are simpletons. Fecking pure stupidity to dive into a player like that in the box.....Brunos shite pass that led to the third goal, Martinez turtling on that same goal.
 
Yes it was. Every 3-0 game is a 3-0 game.

Not sure what you expected a Manchester United forum to be like after another 3-0 defeat at home to Bournemouth.
This.
Today wasn't a 3-0, it wasn't a 3-0 when losing to Tottenham by that, losing to Forest was just individual mistakes. Losing a couple of others i've managed to forget weren't defeats either.

Yet the absolute lucky blagged win v City somehow was highly valid
 
Because they thought Rashford would contribute more, so they went out and bought two strikers who do not score goals.

In that case, they planned even worse than I expected. Rashford and Højlund were never going to work well together. Rashford needs a technically skilled center forward for quick one-twos, while Højlund requires a wide playmaker to create opportunities for him.
 
Ten Hag build a squad of nobodies. If you told me we are going to spend 600 million in 3 years, I'd expect at least 2 or 3 three world class players that are something really special. Right now, I don't see any such players. I can only see underperforming mediocre players. A mid-table squad that is currently in relegation form. Losing 0-3 at home to Bournemouth should not be acceptable for Man Utd, but I guess that now we are used to those scores...
 
I cannot remember a more frustrating game than this one.

Awful in both boxes.

It feels like we concede one in every 3 chances and score 1 with every ten chance we create.
Was the exact same against Tottenham and you're 100% right.

If nothing else, it's been interesting having more 'control' of all our games since he's come in. It proves there's a horrendous lack of quality in both defense and attack, and having a lot of possession means absolutely nothing if we can't score and constantly give away cheap goals.

Add to the mix that our most creative player gives the ball away more than he actually creates or scores now, and a keeper prone to bad errors and we're going nowhere fast.

You can excuse individual mistakes during the odd game, but when it's every single game, it points to a severe lack of individual quality. It's not purely tactical if it's happening when we're largely controlling possession.
 
Ten Hag build a squad of nobodies. If you told me we are going to spend 600 million in 3 years, I'd expect at least 2 or 3 three world class players that are something really special. Right now, I don't see any such players. I can only see underperforming mediocre players. A mid-table squad that is currently in relegation form. Losing 0-3 at home to Bournemouth should not be acceptable for Man Utd, but I guess that now we are used to those scores...

Where would we be this season without Amad, he was picked up during Ole's time.

A skillful lad that has toughened up on loan.
 
He needs to stick with his system 100% and weed out the players who can't adapt.

We have a trash squad of players many of whom Bournemouth would not want, so clearly we will have to buy, losn and sell our way out of this mess.

The Ten Hag era was marked by atrocious transfer dealings and it is going to take a long time to set things right. There is nothing that any manager can do with the rubbish we've somehow assembled other than identify who is worth keeping and who should be moved on.
 
Ten Hag build a squad of nobodies. If you told me we are going to spend 600 million in 3 years, I'd expect at least 2 or 3 three world class players that are something really special. Right now, I don't see any such players. I can only see underperforming mediocre players. A mid-table squad that is currently in relegation form. Losing 0-3 at home to Bournemouth should not be acceptable for Man Utd, but I guess that now we are used to those scores...
100%. I don't think we can say things like not acceptable for Man Utd anymore. Forest, Bournemouth, Brentford etc have improved dramatically and are much more solid teams, playing much better and/or more effective football than us, never mind the top 4 teams.

There are quite a few non-fashionable teams in the league that are genuinely better than us now, despite the fact people seem to think we should be beating them with ease.

We don't really deserve to be treated as a struggling top team anymore, talk of going for top 4 etc should stop until we start acting and playing like a decent team again.
 
Might as well just accept this is who we are now. You'll save yourself a lot of heartache. Can't see us doing any impactful spending as it appears we have no money.
It's going to take a lot of shrewd spending on up and coming talent and a few transfer windows to ship out the current dross or whomever Amorim deems not suitable to play for the team.
I reckon a handful of new additions and a proper pre-season will see us improve our all round game.

Keep the faith
 
This was as bad as we had in last decade or so. Just a nothing performance. Sure the number of attempts looks high but we never really looked we can score. Game would have gone for another 30 min and we wouldn’t have scored
 
Yes it was. Every 3-0 game is a 3-0 game.

Not sure what you expected a Manchester United forum to be like after another 3-0 defeat at home to Bournemouth.
I've been on this forum long enough to have expected exactly the reaction that is here. Doesn't mean all of us need to be equally dramatic. Of course it SUCKS, but it was far from unexpected

Bournemouth was 6th before this game, we were 13th. And they have great away form. Anybody that thought we were going to easily win, is not paying attention and still lives in the romanticism of Sir Alex era. Who, by the way, also lost an odd game against random teams, including with large scores.

Point is - individual mistakes aside, it was an equal game, and not a total annihilation of the kind you would expect with a 3-0 loss at home
 
We look so much better though remember...it's just individual mistakes etc
Yes, still too inconsistent, mind. And sad truth also: if we still had Mason Greenwood, we‘d be six to nine points better off. He‘d have buried a great number of chances we had today & in the games before.
 
Today we have been schooled by a better well organised and better run club than ours.
Bournemouth achieved success by buying young players and coaching them up a level.

Our strategy of buying expensive, big name players needs to end. It’s successful in the short-run but disastrous in the long-run.
 
It's going to take a lot of shrewd spending on up and coming talent and a few transfer windows to ship out the current dross or whomever Amorim deems not suitable to play for the team.
I reckon a handful of new additions and a proper pre-season will see us improve our all round game.

Keep the faith
100%

Rashford, Casemiro, Lindelof, Mount, Malacia, Evans, Shaw, Eriksen - all need to go for different reasons. Maguire as well, unless he is OK halving his wages. That's a lot of players

That said, if we can sign a decent left wingback in January, that alone can see us playing better. Doesn't mean we will win league or even make top 4, but at least will help being above 8th place. People talk about top 4, and meanwhile we seem visibly unable to move up from f...ing 13th
 
We have a trash squad of players many of whom Bournemouth would not want, so clearly we will have to buy, losn and sell our way out of this mess.
Who in today’s starting 11 is trash and needs to be moved on?

Every time there’s a manager change it’s unrealistic to expect a total roster turnover. At some point the manager should be expected to coach up the players.
 
100%

Rashford, Casemiro, Lindelof, Mount, Malacia, Evans, Shaw, Eriksen - all need to go for different reasons. Maguire as well, unless he is OK halving his wages. That's a lot of players

Add in Zirkzee and Dalot

Also think that we are relying too heavily on Mainoo, he and Garnacho need to be managed like young players not run into the ground
 
Bournemouth achieved success by buying young players and coaching them up a level.

Our strategy of buying expensive, big name players needs to end. It’s successful in the short-run but disastrous in the long-run.
I think it probably already has. Even if we wanted to be as profligate as we’ve been there’s no way sir Jim would sanction it.
 

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  • Man Utd win
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Detailed Results

  • 29% Man Utd 2:1 Bournemouth
  • 18% Man Utd 2:0 Bournemouth
  • 15% Man Utd 3:1 Bournemouth
  • 9% Man Utd 3:0 Bournemouth
  • 6% Man Utd 2:2 Bournemouth
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  • 1% Man Utd 0:2 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 0:4 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 2:3 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 5:0 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 2:6 Bournemouth
  • 1% Man Utd 1:3 Bournemouth
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  1. Man Utd
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Overall possession
60% 40%
Shots
23 10
Shots on target
7 5
Total touches in the box
45 15
Goalkeeper saves
2 7
Fouls
11 11
Corners
13 1

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