Pogba's says his future is at United and has many years on contract

For sure, all this is caused by some numpty journalist either intentionally or mistakenly mistranslating it.

Its definitely not mistakenly, its been happening far too often
 
So the quotes aren't as damning as initially reported? What a surprise... :rolleyes: In any case I'm sick of this topic coming up repeatedly, and he needs to learn to just void questions like this.
 
So the quotes aren't as damning as initially reported? What a surprise... :rolleyes: In any case I'm sick of this topic coming up repeatedly, and he needs to learn to just void questions like this.

But these sort of questions are asked to all players all the time. He did absolutely nothing wrong and nothing different to what any player would have said.
Because it's Pogba and United, you know what the press are like. Don't take any notice.
 
Seems to be conflicting messages on Pogba's status at United almost on a daily basis. I won't be surprised if he leaves in the next couple of transfer windows, either that or United get a new manager in and he stays. Who knows.
 
I don't think Pogba will ever be the player for United that you need him to be.

Look at the midfielders he was playing or competing with during his seasons at Juve.....

12/13 - Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio
13/14 - Pirlo, Vidal, Marchisio
14/15 - Marchisio, Vidal
15/16 - Marchisio, Khedira

He played with some of the best midfielders in the world at that time, which allowed him a lot more freedom and allowed him to get away with things he is now being found out for.

He's come in at United and has been playing in a midfield with the likes of Herrera, Fellaini, occasionally Blind, an ageing Carrick, McTominay and Matic. All very good players on their day, but a step down from the consistency and quality he played with at Juve. The onus is now on him to be the main-man and to bring the quality up of those around him. He doesn't seem capable of being able to do that.

The point is highlighted by the World Cup, when he found himself in a midfield with Kante and Matuidi, and low and behold he's a world-beater again!

What's more, Juve haven't really missed him. If anything, they're a better team since he left.

You either need to make massive improvements to the midfield and team around him, or move him on.

I hope he proves me wrong this season but this is what it feels more and more like with pogba. That hed be happy for better players to lead a team he can be a bit flashy in rather than be the guy to lead a team. Matic, fellaini, fred, herrera are all players than can give him a solid surround but it seems hes not up to being the main man. So far.
 
Ideally, nobody should pay any attention to any of this. But given that the latter won’t happen, you have to say that Pogba could have – easily – made it much more difficult for both the media and the hysterical fans to interpret his comments this way and that. How do we classify the “would be fined” comment, to make the most obvious example? He doesn’t have to say that, period. He’s not stupid, he knows it will generate a lot of speculation. Alternatively, if he honestly didn’t mean to come across a cryptic (some kind of language/communication issue), he could have stated simply and plainly that there’s nothing to it – he’s not unsettled in any way, etc.

You can’t pull the “damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t” line on that one. A significant number among those who supposedly “hate” him are a) to various degrees underwhelmed by his performances in a United shirt and b) of the opinion that the sum total of his comments in the last year or so indicate that he isn’t 100% settled at the club. The comments of his odious agent can be added to the equation too, of course. It’s hard to imagine that Pogba positively disapproves of what he’s been spouting of late – if he was, he could have easily distanced himself from it.

A high profile player like him – obviously – has his reasons for not wanting to declare that he’ll stay at United till he retires, and that no big teams need come calling. That’s business, if you will. But it’s hardly endearing – there’s no reason why your average fan should find it so. To make an obvious point, there’s no comparison here to the Ronaldo situation when he was at United. He was so undeniably brilliant on the pitch that the other stuff could be tolerated – and didn’t actually tarnish his image that much (for the majority of fans).
Perfectly put.
 
I'm a Pogba fan, he's not having a great start to the season, but 98% of the squad are yet to get going. If he leaves, I'm not going to cry about it! I will be disappointed. Utd have let legends leave or retire here and there will always be someone new coming in. We've had this circus with Beckham/Ronaldo and Rooney to name a few, but we still got on with it. A few players, in the past, have claimed they wanted to spend the rest of their careers at Utd but left (doesn't matter why they left, they just did!). I don't think in the modern game we will ever here or should expect to here that a player will stay at one club for the rest of his career.
What has come to my attention while reading through the various posts on this site, is that some fans are afraid of Pogba leaving. Yes, I said it! The fact is that there is not a lot of quality players out there of Pogba' s ilk. At present he has greater potential than most other up and coming midfielders out there. Are there any psychologists on this site to shed some light?....here fishy, fishy, fishy...bite
 
I'm a Pogba fan, he's not having a great start to the season, but 98% of the squad are yet to get going. If he leaves, I'm not going to cry about it! I will be disappointed. Utd have let legends leave or retire here and there will always be someone new coming in. We've had this circus with Beckham/Ronaldo and Rooney to name a few, but we still got on with it. A few players, in the past, have claimed they wanted to spend the rest of their careers at Utd but left (doesn't matter why they left, they just did!). I don't think in the modern game we will ever here or should expect to here that a player will stay at one club for the rest of his career.
What has come to my attention while reading through the various posts on this site, is that some fans are afraid of Pogba leaving. Yes, I said it! The fact is that there is not a lot of quality players out there of Pogba' s ilk. At present he has greater potential than most other up and coming midfielders out there. Are there any psychologists on this site to shed some light?....here fishy, fishy, fishy...bite

He didn't have a preseason, might have something to do with it. I mean he came back and played the first game of the season without even really training.
Damn white text :lol:
 
Why was the thread title changed? Have we got updated, more accurate quotes somewhere?
 
Why was the thread title changed? Have we got updated, more accurate quotes somewhere?
Some people on here who actually understands french, have translated the interview. Not the printed quotes in l’equipe and other papers, but from the actual video.
 
So why did he sign for us a few years ago? Leaving a successful Juve side to join us. Unless he completely misread how much work needed doing to the club, I don't genuinely believe he came here thinking we would oust Madrid, Barca, JUVE, Bayern and even city for the champions league, and automatically win the league.

He knew what he was getting himself in for - a too good to be true wage, be the most expensive player and a come back to the club he loved - people don't realise how much of his life he spent in Manchester and how many people he is close with here.
Of course he knew what he was getting. He signed because he wanted to be part of the rebuild we had. Pogba isn't stupid. He left an established CL team, a team that reached the final just one year earlier to join a team that couldn't even get past the group stages and even got beaten by midgetland in the EL. But I'm thinking as time has passed he is slowly realising that we are still miles away from where we need to be and winning the WC is when it finally hit home. 'Why should I stay here when I can go anywhere and win more big trophies on a regular basis?'
 
So it's widely accepted that he said "We'll see what happens in a few months time"
To the point where a French sports broadcaster, in a tweet some pages back, says the German translation is correct

And yet, we have people here claiming he didn't say anything of the kind...

Marital FC went the way of Leeds United it seems
 
So it's widely accepted that he said "We'll see what happens in a few months time"

And yet, we have people here claiming he didn't...

Marital FC went the way of Leeds United it seems
"Widely accepted"? You literally have people translating the video telling you he didn't say that.
 
So it's widely accepted that he said "We'll see what happens in a few months time"
To the point where a French sports broadcaster, in a tweet some pages back, says the German translation is correct

And yet, we have people here claiming he didn't say anything of the kind...

Marital FC went the way of Leeds United it seems

Well in the video he doesn't say that, so unless they have an other video than the one they provided where he answers the same questions but gives different answers then their translation is fantasist.
 
People dislike the side show and the distraction this has on our club. He knows the rumours are flying around and he could stop the rumours instantly with one tweet just saying 'i want to stay at united long term'.

I'm with Jose all the way on this and if Pogba is unhappy then best to get rid in Jan.
This simple phrase is very hard it seems nowadays.
 
"Widely accepted"? You literally have people translating the video telling you he didn't say that.

Well in the video he doesn't say that, so unless they have an other video than the one they provided where he answers the same questions but gives different answers then their translation is fantasist.

Why is there a French broadcaster saying the German translation is correct?
 
Why is there a French broadcaster saying the German translation is correct?
How do we know they've not just copied the translation? And it's not like French media is immune from stirring shit up.
 
So it's widely accepted that he said "We'll see what happens in a few months time"
To the point where a French sports broadcaster, in a tweet some pages back, says the German translation is correct

And yet, we have people here claiming he didn't say anything of the kind...

Marital FC went the way of Leeds United it seems

Just because you would love it to be true, it doesn't necessarily makes it true.

We had posters that are fluent in French and that are French doing the translation and he didn't mention that "months" part but rather the future.
 
People need to judge players on what they do on the pitch, and the words they hear come directly out of their mouths.

If its written, or interrupted, by the press, by all means read it, but just assume its about 1-2% the truth.
 
Why is there a French broadcaster saying the German translation is correct?

I don't know, I can only talk about the video that I saw and that wasn't translated properly.
 
How do we know they've not just copied the translation? And it's not like French media is immune from stirring shit up.

Yeah, French reporters reports the interview and adds few words, Germans translates it and then French broadcaster says translation is correct. Doesn't mean the initial reporting is correct.

I trust our resident French posters in translating than the journalists.
 
How do we know they've not just copied the translation? And it's not like French media is immune from stirring shit up.

I don't but, I know what he's like and what footballers are like in general and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him

Just because you would love it to be true, it doesn't necessarily makes it true.

We had posters that are fluent in French and that are French doing the translation and he didn't mention that "months" part but rather the future.

Well, no I wouldn't love it to be true. Do you know me personally? Do you know what I think?
 
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People need to judge players on what they do on the pitch, and the words they hear come directly out of their mouths.

If its written, or interrupted, by the press, by all means read it, but just assume its about 1-2% the truth.

But if we can’t condemn people adamantly and start wars based on rumors of lies, then what shall we base our adamant condemnations and wars upon? Like tabloids quoting other tabloids, not to be taken seriously ...
 
I don't but, I know what he's like and what footballers are like in general and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him



Well, no I wouldn't love it to be true. Do you know me personally? Do you know what I think? No, you don't so shut up!

Well, we know what you’re like and what forum posters are like in general (or about as well as you know Pogba, I’m guessing.

We also know what a chain of sports journalists can be like.

Apart from that, all we have to go by is what he actually said ...
 
But if we can’t condemn people adamantly and start wars based on rumors of lies, then what shall we base our adamant condemnations and wars upon? Like tabloids quoting other tabloids, not to be taken seriously ...

Skin colour, race and sexual orientation.

Let's get back to the good old days!