Why are you so emotional did you write it?. you don't have to be an "oracle" to conclude if a story doesn't seem logical,then there probaly isn't much truth to it. I'm sorry to have to be the one to break this to you but the tabloids often with fabricate or totally exaggerate things to sell papers on generate views from a reactionary fanbase, most people are naive enough to blindly believe them.
Pogba's says his future is at United and has many years on contract
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Why are you so emotional did you write it?. you don't have to be an "oracle" to conclude if a story doesn't seem logical,then there probaly isn't much truth to it. I'm sorry to have to be the one to break this to you but the tabloids often with fabricate or totally exaggerate things to sell papers on generate views from a reactionary fanbase, most people are naive enough to blindly believe them.
Car crash of a thread. If the last few weeks have tought you anything, it should be not to listen to journalists. They have the knives it for us and will try to make things as uncomfortable as possible, even going as far as to fabricate stories.
I’m playing there at the moment, but who knows what will happen in the next few months.
After several people going back to the source interview telling us he never said that there, I’m curious to what your source is apart from ‘ants7’. I hope it’s not a sports tabloid refering to a sports tabloid refering to a sports tabloid’.
I’ve met plenty of fans at OT have have had it with PP. Would have considered it the majority opinion based on the 5 matches I’ve been at in the past year.
Fair enough, I called him neither as it happens. I was just interested as to where you stood regarding the difference between criticising his conditioning and calling him an expensive disaster.
I’m not really sure is him saying it’s not me saying this a good thing or a bad thing
I think a lot it gets lost in translation.
Can't wait until Pogba leaves next season, he could have shut down the reporter but all he did was stoke the fire. Anyone who thinks that Pogba intends on staying beyond next season and isn't being disruptive has their head up their arse.
I cannot forecast you the action of Pogba. It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Pogbas own interest.
I don't know usernames or make lists, so sorry if you felt caught up in what was a bit of a generalisation.
That's 99% of people in this thread
Well, I'm not the one giving interviews to the media, nor am I getting my agent to diss a club legend on Twitter so...
It's amazing how many people on a forum that requires reading, can't seem to be able to read?
He pretty much did by saying he is a United player with a long contract
... and that his and Mourinho's relationship is purely a coach and player one. ie. He is hinting that he doesn't want to play for Mourinho. He knew exactly what he was doing. Did the media make up the post Leicester game qoutes too?
Yet the thread title says otherwise.
Don't know what to believe anymore. Seems Paddy Crerand, David May, and Stewart, don't want to answer any questions when people ask either. Just have to wait and see the outcome.
Not everyone takes every tabloid tweet as gospel like you.
Used to be a time and a place where posters on here were all for the club/manager when a player was getting out of control
Now, times have changed. Tribalism is slowly going out of football. Sure, it was easier for some to "support" the club when Fergie was here and winning everything but, it's moments like these where you see true supporters. I know that's a cliché and I absolutely despise it but, it's true.
The people in this thread saying Paul Pogba is a "great" player, a "world" class player, who "never disrespects the club" really have no idea
So, there is a few seconds that are cut at the end of the Skysports UK video, I found a 10 second video that seem to be the end of it and he seems to say "But it's true that you don't know what can happen in the future.". The video is dubbed so I don't really hear the beginning and could be wrong.
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/9dnuqr/pogba_i_still_have_lots_of_time_in_my_contract/
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/9dnuqr/pogba_i_still_have_lots_of_time_in_my_contract/
Anthony Crolla came out with a tweet criticising Pogba yesterday and David May liked it. Those in and around the club know the story.
No he fecking isn't. Nowhere does he say that he does not want to play for the manger. They don't have to be pals, as long as they are professional that is enough. The most amount of nonsense comes from agenda driven fans rather than the player or the manager. It does not help that they believe every piece of nonsense that the media writes. Players and managers can and do have their differences, but that does not mean that they these things are as bad as the media report them to be, not does it mean that they are somehow not giving their all for the team.
Some fans these days support players as much as their club,( look at the Messi v Ronaldo phenomenon) it's a weird thing that never happened 20 years ago.
Performances and behaviour have been inconsistent at best from this player. The club did so much to bring him in on two separate occasions. He's done little to repay the fee paid and quite frankly he has had more haircuts than top performances in a Manchester United shirt. It would be good business to make a profit on him. People are defending / attacking him over this Sky Germany interview, it's a pit stop in a long road of issues with Pogba.
No he is saying they have a player coach relationship and he is always going to give 100% no matter who the manager is. He doesn't have to pretend to be best mates with Jose.
Serious question, what did you think when Scholes refused to play a league cup game? Or when Keane had Fergie bailing him out of a police cell a couple days before the FA cup final? Do they get a pass for disrespecting the club?
Drama at football clubs is nothing new, the only difference now is that we get minute to minute updates due to social media and forums so journalists sensationalise things so they can manipulate easily led 'fans' like you.
How can you talk down to others about supporting the club when you're doing anything but in this thread? Fans like you are poisonous and toxic, you need to get a grip.
You don't judge players on what they have done, but what they can do. If Pogba leaves, he's going to one of the perennial CL-contenders, likely starting every week. Any of those sides, bar maybe Bayern (because Bayern are weird), would bite your hand off for him.
If you think Pogba didn't know how the media would react to his words then you really are naive. He has been dropping hints and feeding the media soundbites for months. You might be fine with our players doing this but most aren't, he's lost a lot of support this week.
You mean match going fans like me? You need to get a grip and f**k off wit that shit! I've spent a lot of money travelling to see this club, home and away, in 30 years! I don't need to take that kind of shit from the likes of you or anyone. I support my club and I am damn well proud to support it and no player is changing that
People calling Pogba a great player, who never disrespects the club....People have said that on here. How am I or anyone supposed to take that seriously?
He's not a great player and he has disrespected the club! Right back to when he first left....If you disagree with me over that, turns out you're also disagreeing with Fergie, who has also said it!
To answer your questions...
1. The Scholes thing only came about fairly recently. None of us knew of that in 2001 and he said he was completely in the wrong and was a major regret of his. Hard to get emotional over that
2. Keane was an absolute dickhead for doing that and has since admitted he was ashamed of it.
Furthermore, those two have done more for this club on the pitch than Paul Pogba
You are definitely reading too much into it. I've known people to have a purely professional relationship with their bosses and stick in a job for a while. I have many co-workers who I wouldn't hang out with outside of work but our professional relationship is fine.
Furthermore, if the journalist asked him the question is he supposed to a) refuse to answer (which looks even worse) or b) lie (which is pointless IMO). Pogba really can't win when it comes to the media.
Tbf mate you do seem pretty worked up over what seems to be a fairly innocuous, generic interview. From what I can see it sounds the same as nearly any interview given by high earning players. Really surprised how easily wound up people seem to be.
I actually read it from the article linked in the initial post. I have not gone through the whole thread to see if quotes there are incorrect and if SportsWitness made these quotes up. If so, apologies.
The only naive one here is you and people like you who actually fall for mistranslated quotes from the media and get your knickers in a twist because of some pathetic pre-existing agenda. Pogba has no obligation to think about how his quotes will be twisted by agenda driven morons in the media and the internet. If people stopped being outraged by every piece of nonsense that comes from the media, then the media will feck off once they don't get the reaction that they want.
I am not saying that everything is perfectly fine, but I certainly don't think the situation is bad enough to get this much amount of outrage out of this. The Shaw situation should show that things can just as easily resolve after a while.
I am just sick of it.
The half hearted performances, the attitude, the interviews, the agent on Twitter.
The guy can be a great player but, he has bought into this hype and I firmly believe now that he will never the player we all know he can be.
Great players are Messi, Ronaldo, Zidane, Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo, Viera, Keane, Scholes...Pogba is nowhere near any of them! KDB, Sane, Salah, Hazard...Well below their level
On top of that, he's taking the piss out of the club!
I want us all to be pulling in the same direction, back to the top! I don't want some half arsed mardy arse slowing us down.
"I will always give 100% to the club"
OK Paul, but when?
We are subject mistruths and deception on a daily basis. You have to question how long and how widespread these deceptions have been. I know as a Muslim we've been on the end of many such narratives. We have known over many many doctored, slanted and complete lies. There needs to be at some point, we as a society have to say enough.
Most of us are too busy to investigate the truth. I understand reporting news can be complicated and mistakes do occur. However, it's when these are purposely twisted, or just fabricated is the problem. Stop clicking on their websites. The press is taking us for granted and too average and unintelligent to question the truth. It is repulsive.
A special thank you and credit to our French-speaking posters for bringing misquotes to our attention.
Most of us are too busy to investigate the truth. I understand reporting news can be complicated and mistakes do occur. However, it's when these are purposely twisted, or just fabricated is the problem. Stop clicking on their websites. The press is taking us for granted and too average and unintelligent to question the truth. It is repulsive.
A special thank you and credit to our French-speaking posters for bringing misquotes to our attention.
I could understand the moral outrage if we had Fergie still, but we have a manager that has disrespected the club and it's traditions and has publicly shit on a number of players, he's set the tone of not keepng things in-house. We don't know what has gone on between them on the training ground or behind closed doors and right now Pogba is forgetting this, he's acting like we have all seen whatever it is that has upset him so much.
I do think part of it is the way Martial was treated over his baby birth with the fine, but Mourinho is on a political charm offensive right now, for 2 years he's not given a shit about the fans or the clubs traditions, suddenly he does and he's out there pressing palms and kissing babies which just makes Pogba's current attitude come off as petulant and beligerant, he needs to be wiser and give "no comment" answers.
I do think part of it is the way Martial was treated over his baby birth with the fine, but Mourinho is on a political charm offensive right now, for 2 years he's not given a shit about the fans or the clubs traditions, suddenly he does and he's out there pressing palms and kissing babies which just makes Pogba's current attitude come off as petulant and beligerant, he needs to be wiser and give "no comment" answers.
I think you really need to calm down.
Who cares if your a match going fan or not? I'm a born and bred Mancunian and I go to matches, does that make my opinion more valid than others? Of course not.
With regards to Pogba disrespecting he club, that's subjective but the quotes in this thread have been proven to be wrong yet you've just run withwhag the original story said despite being told different on numerous occasions. You even accused another poster of lying just to get one over on you
come on mate. If you don't like the guy that's fair enough but at least use a valid reason to have a pop. Like i said, the attitude you're showing in this thread is compeletwly toxic. Yet you have he nerve to call out others about not supporting the club properly.So you can give Scholes a pass because it didn't come out until later. Do you not see how illogical that is?
And yeah I do disagree with Fergie, not the end of the world (who was also trying to keep him at that point).