We'll buy him back yet again at 36
Pogba's contract offer
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Honestly not a bad move for him, he’ll have some very good complimentary pieces around him in MID.
I don’t think Juventus are too far off competing in Europe tbh. If they can add Jorginho, and Perisic as rumoured, along with Pogba. They really just need a Chiellini replacement, and probably another LB to have a very strong squad, on paper.
I don’t think Juventus are too far off competing in Europe tbh. If they can add Jorginho, and Perisic as rumoured, along with Pogba. They really just need a Chiellini replacement, and probably another LB to have a very strong squad, on paper.
Clever move. Go to a slower league. Where Lukaku looked world class.
PSG were in for him but he wanted Juve. Also how is 29 reaching his peak? By every measure he's at the end of peak age, and his performances have visibly dropped off from his actual peak too like normal for his age.
If pogba goes we defo need at least 2 mids… a defensive one and a creative one..: someone who can play long balls and accurately too. Need to replace pogbas passes… as bad as he’s been there’s not many midfielders that can pass a ball like he can, some of his passes are unreal. We can’t go into the season just relying on Bruno in the middle for creativity, we’ll have creativity from the wings with sancho but will need more.
Much slower league that suits him more where he has more time and space on the ball to make up for his physical decline where he's less agile
I'm terrible at maths, but it looks like he's taken a hefty salary drop by signing for Juve? He would almost certainly have been offered a healthier wage from City, but I like to think he wasn't prepared to disrespect United by joining a PL rival. Reckon he'll do well in the slower paced Italian league too.
I'm just glad to see this business done and dusted either way. Good luck to him.
He played well for us a few times but overall he has been a waste of money. I don’t care all that much about that. It’s the way he made me hope that leaves me feeling so disappointed. He’s not alone there to be fair.
Good luck to him I suppose but, also, feck him.
Good luck to him I suppose but, also, feck him.
He will stroll around in Italian football and I’m sure there will be people blowing smoke up his arse and he will bleat about Utd relentlessly…..
However most in the know understand that the difference in intensity between Serie A and the EPL is night and day….
Lukaku and Tammy Abraham are perfect examples.
Slower pace will suit him and he won’t be exposed so much so a good move for him and a failed transfer for us.
Glad this sorry saga is ending.
However most in the know understand that the difference in intensity between Serie A and the EPL is night and day….
Lukaku and Tammy Abraham are perfect examples.
Slower pace will suit him and he won’t be exposed so much so a good move for him and a failed transfer for us.
Glad this sorry saga is ending.
I think he probably has enough offers actually. The PSG thing would be understandable if they get Zidane, but apart from that, I see him back at Juventus where he showed he can be a star, in the right setup. His wages though, safe for PSG, will probably be lower then what we offered him. He is an incredible talent but also has major downsides. A team must build their mid to support his lack of tactical awareness and discipline or else he becomes a liability.
I don't think I can remember another CM that can be as polarizing in performances based on the team structure as Pogba. Maybe Zidane if he played today in a mid 3 would be similar but at least Zidane had that "hard" nature about him while Pogba is a bit of a softy when things don't go his way.
All in all, a luxury type player that would have probably been fantastic if we had a prime Matic and a prime nr. 8 working hard to create the platform for the flair player that he is. Just another example of how poor this team was build under the Woodward era.
Actually we lost a lot of valuable money in this deal. Paid ton of money and wages for 6 years without nothing valuable in return then let him go on free, again. Awful business by the club.
We should have cashed on him for any kind of money 2 years ago or so, but we let it come to this. We let him run down his contract then leave on free.
Lukaku is what I call a good business : we bought him for a lot of money, 2 years later when it didn't work managed to sell him for a good amount of money. Got one good season from him and didn't lose that much money when we got rid.
Pogba has been an awful business by United through and through.
And nothing of value was lost.
Tbh I think we're better off just for not having him and Lingard around the club.
Tbh I think we're better off just for not having him and Lingard around the club.
Safe option. Go back to a league and club he knows. Will be a different challenge now with Juve not a dominant force anymore and him not having the likes of Pirlo next to him in midfield. Don’t care though, good luck to him away from us
About €65k a week if true, but I would suspect those bonuses are pretty good.
That deal would suggest he didn’t have many good offers on the table. Sure his PR team will save face and say he turned down mega money elsewhere because he loves Turin or some shit
I also got 64k but it probably is 10m a year, not total
Is there an argument that he is joining a Juve in decline, much as was when he came back to Utd? That can turn quickly of course but he might be going into the same situation as OT where he is expected to be the key player to lift a mediocre side.
Assume he was hoping for Barca/Real/PSG/City.
Assume he was hoping for Barca/Real/PSG/City.
so they’ll stick him in a midfield 3 with legs around him and let him make play and attack in the Bruno role. If he can stay fit he’s as good as Bruno but he won’t be able to. I think he’s finished. He hasn’t been able to build up any momentum in the last few years and I also think he’s majorly stagnated. His game didn’t develop at all. If Juve can carry a constantly injured midfield player who’s a passenger in the defensive phase then they’ve got themselves a bargain, again
It's nothing to do with having respect for Utd. He's already left us once for free after we spent years developing him. He's now leaving again for free after a largely underwhelming 6 further years at the club.
City didn't want him. They were trying to trick us into giving him a new contract. ETH would then have had the impossible job, that our other managers have faced, in trying to find him a role in the team. If City had wanted him they'd have him as paying people £300K a week to warm the bench makes no difference to their financial operation.
I'm assuming Juve are giving him a big signing bonus which over the course of his contract will make his weekly wage much higher.
It's a strange one, they have been in decline but the youngish players that they have are promising. They could turn everything around this summer. Before any sales, they have De Ligt, Locatelli, Vlahovic, Chiesa, Arthur, Zakaria or Kean.
Good fecking riddance
Another insider spouting opinion as fact. The guys leaving, time to move on & stop talking out your arse.
‘I’m assuming Juve are giving him a big signing on bonus’
‘City didn’t want him’
One thing you do have right is his underwhelming 6 years, the real shame is he isn’t the only one. Can people just stop manufacturing reasons to dislike a guy that’s no longer our problem please.
I wonder how the Mbappe saga will affect future negotiations of players leaving on free because when so much money is involved, it usually has ripple effects. Pogba might try his luck for more money
Fair play to Pogba if he rejected a better deal from Utd to go back to Juventus. But I wonder why he did not do that a year or two back, may be loyalty bonuses from Utd or death of his agent played a role ?
If the deal is true , this has to be the worst asset management from Utd and one of the gifts of Ole.
Once we bought Bruno , it should have been clear we can’t play Pogba and Bruno together and should have sold. Waiting for last year to sign contract is silly. United seems to be afraid of selling at lower price and would rather let him leave for free. Can’t figure the logic really.
If the deal is true , this has to be the worst asset management from Utd and one of the gifts of Ole.
Once we bought Bruno , it should have been clear we can’t play Pogba and Bruno together and should have sold. Waiting for last year to sign contract is silly. United seems to be afraid of selling at lower price and would rather let him leave for free. Can’t figure the logic really.
We won’t miss him one bit.
His weekly wage will be lower but the signing on fee will more than make up for it. Don't mistake desire to play with desire to make $$$.
Is he waiting to see if PSG can afford him?
Because I can't imagine even PSG being able to offer him big wages, if mbappe stays.
Because I can't imagine even PSG being able to offer him big wages, if mbappe stays.
We never got anywhere close to having any top class midfielders with him to play alongside. He's not worked out though.
10m sounds like a peanut after hearing how much Mbappe will be earning in PSG.
I don't hate the guy. I do believe he's tried while he's been at Utd. The fact is he needs a highly fuctioning team around him & this is something we have not been since SAF retired.
He will obviously getting a signing on bonus at Juve. There's no way clubs like PSG, Barca & Real wouldn't have been in for him if they could have got him for less than £100K a week. These clubs have obviously decided that a signing bonus & weekly wage doesn't make financial sense to them.
There is now way Pep would have Pogba at City. He is struggling to give all his MF's enough playing time as it is. This will be further complicated next season as Haaland will want to play every game so that's another MF spot gone.
The likes of City & Liverpool were desperate for us to renew Pogba's contract as this would have signalled that the club wasn't changing the way it was run. We are now hopefully sending a message that under performers will not be rewarded & that we are trying to build a fuctioning team rather than a hotchpotch of supposed superstar individuals.
Club wouldnt sell him, unless for a silly fee nobody would pay
A smart club would have sold him before covid. Player wanted away, doesnt quite fit the team and a sideshow off the pitch. Only Woodward/glazers could mess this up so spectaculary
Don't know about highly functioning, just functioning would have seen a different player.
I'm no Pogfan and I feel sorry for a lot of the players at the club over the last few years.
I'm not basing my views on stats, rather on what I've seen on the pitch. And it is my opinion so don't expect agreement.
We have young players like Rashford and even Greenwood (before his issues) who weren't really being developed as I could see.
Pogba came to us and had been involved in a successful side and won medals. Our team wasn't in a place where he could add to that. And successive management didn't really take us where we need to be or want to be.
It's a shame that so much ill will has set in towards our players, and I'm not admonishing them of blame here, just that we seem to have got our act together somewhat but the ill will has done damage to the point players won't be able to help us in our new phase.
Everybody wins if he leaves.
We finally can attempt to build a modern midfield that can actually run and press.
He can prance around in some farmers league and have people fawn over his youtube highlights, because nobody actually watches those games.
We finally can attempt to build a modern midfield that can actually run and press.
He can prance around in some farmers league and have people fawn over his youtube highlights, because nobody actually watches those games.
They bought him for 1 mil, got few good years of him, sold him for 100 and now again they get him for free (i know, i know that he is not completely "free" but...).
You can love or hate Pogba and be glad that he is off but Juve fecked us twice ffs
You can love or hate Pogba and be glad that he is off but Juve fecked us twice ffs
I am going to cry.
It was Pogba that fecked us twice, Juventus took advantage of the situation. You can't blame them for that.
Running back to the crap Italian league. How appropriate.
I actually disagree. I think he's quite easy to fit into how most three man midfields are built, which is why it blows my mind that we never did it.
I would say the classic three man midfield consists of a deep-lying playmaker who does a decent amount of defensive work himself, a box-to-box midfielder who does a lot of defensive work, and a more attacking midfielder who does assist with some playmaking and defensive duties, but who's mostly focused on hurting the opposition. Pogba fits in that latter role perfectly and it's how he played for most of his time at Juventus. It's not some specific formation that his team have to come up with and 'build around' that player; it's probably the single most common style of playing with three midfielders that teams have used over the last 20 or so years.
In his entire six years he was here we've only used him in that role for two brief periods. In the first season when we had Carrick-Herrera-Pogba, and had probably our best run of form that season. And then just after Ole took over and we played Matic-Herrera-Pogba, which was the best Pogba ever played and probably the best the entire team has played since Fergie retired. Other than those two periods, we've spent the entire time either playing Pogba in the deeper roles or even when he played with two deeper midfielders they would have no creative and playmaking abilities whatsoever (players like Fellaini, Herrera, Schneiderlin, etc) so he'd end up having to play deep to act as our controller anyway.
Things have started to change the last few years, both with football in general where even that most attacking of the three midfielders being required to do more defensive work, and Pogba in particular as he seems to be losing some of his physical ability. Because of that I'm not sure if he'll work out anymore (although the former might not be so prevalent wherever he ends up), but I think we completely messed it up during most of his time here.
He really thought the world and his wife would be queuing up at his door to offer him obscene wages and a signing on fee didn't he 
Madrid couldn't give a toss, not even the mercenaries in Paris wanted him.
Madrid couldn't give a toss, not even the mercenaries in Paris wanted him.
I find it odd how all of you are so happy with us losing Pogba while we are left with Fred, Mctalentless and Donny in central midfield.
Agree 100%
Bruno's arrival and subsequent form killed his career off with us. His injuries and his general demeanor (flirting with other clubs etc.) didn't really help at all.
I think we made the right decision by not signing Bruno summer of 2019. The plan was to give Pogba a proper go in that role but he had a lengthy injury. We were forced to play Pereira in that role till Jan and everyone was complaining about Ole's sides not being able to break down teams that park the bus. Our hand was forced, we signed Bruno and the rest as they say is history.
Also agree that we expect modern midfielders to do a lot of running around. Even attacking mids like KdB, Bernardo etc. do a good chunk of work when they play at CM. I don't know if Pogba's injuries took a toll on him or if he genuinely can't be bothered to defend but to me he gives off Ronaldinho / Ozil vibes - just give them the ball, let them have fun on the pitch, don't expect them do a lot off the ball.