Pogba Future

[Red Dreams]

Straight Cash. staggered if need be.

We should not be paying for players they want rid of.

Alternatively. Take some very good players from their Youth team. But they wont do the deal.

 

[Devil81]

I'm very intrigued to see what he says as well. He backed Pogba unconditionally and I imagine he has to feel at least a bit let down by this

Doubt he will be surprised if we're honest. He backed him as he knew he'd have liked him to stay.

But reality is he stopped playing on purpose last season, he didn't take the game to Chelsea or even Huddersfield. He was pathetic and everyone could see it.

Ole has zero chance with this shower.

 

[el3mel]

Neymar is worth about 200m while Pogba is valued around 150m

Why would Neymar want to come here? If he wants money there are loads in Paris, and we are definitely not the place he will seek if he wants to win things.

 

[Zlatattack]

They can stick Bale up thier ass. We already have an expensive dud due for the glue factory.

 

[AkaAkuma]

Spurs and Leicester have managed to keep players under similiar circumstances. Just hold fast, we have a long contract with him. If he sulks for 6 months, just don't play him.

 

[Patrick08]

No less than 180m should be acceptable this summer.

 

[zlatan_ish]

I honestly think he will go to Juve where he is guaranteed to boss a shit league, he knows he would get found out in Spain, just like he has in the Prem.

Didn't he had highest stats of all your players in several criterias last season? Doesn't several of United fans value him at atleast 150m?

What a way to get found out.

 

[tombombadil]

There's so much shit going on in the media right now talking shit about United and how it's going to devolve into low ball offers cause Real and Juve are in a position of power.

Well, to me, if they want war, they can have it. There should be "leaks" saying Pogba could end up in the reserves and his wages docked until the end of his contract if he doesn't turn up.

feck the virus. We all knew what kind of scumbag of a person Pogba is. We need to stop backing and begging the player. We need to start supporting the manager. Or else, instead of a recovery like City, Spurs and 'Pool have experienced when they backed their managers, we will instead experience a repeat of last season.

 

[Jib]

It will be a long summer. I hope for him that he will be a Real Madrid's player next season. He's too good to waste his prime here blamed for everything.

 

[Patrick08]

It will be a long summer. I hope for him that he will be a Real Madrid's player next season. He's too good to waste his prime here blamed for everything.

 

[Denis' cuff]

It will be a long summer. I hope for him that he will be a Real Madrid's player next season. He's too good to waste his prime here blamed for everything.

 

[beingshe7don]

Why would Neymar want to come here? If he wants money there are loads in Paris, and we are definitely not the place he will seek if he wants to win things.

It's a mere possibility.... not that I'm saying that it will happen.

 

[devips]

Waste his prime here? This is Manchester United. The total dis-respect being shown by Pogidiot and his fanboys towards our club is astounding, considering this is a United forum. It really makes me want to puke.

 

[Canagel]

Waste his prime here? This is Manchester United. The total dis-respect being shown by Pogidiot and his fanboys towards our club is astounding, considering this is a United forum. It really makes me want to puke.

Get over it he's our best player and the only world class player to set foot into this club since 2013. Our club is a mess after SAF left and any top players that have ambition will not find it attractive here. Nothing disrespectful about stating the obvious.

 

[lysglimt]

i wonder if it bothers Pogba one bit that the guy who used to coach him for several seasons, who stood by him when he took charge - now realistically could lose his job because Pogba
only thinks about himself?

 

[Patrick08]

My question is given the attitude and obvious flaws in Pogba's attitude, why would Juve or Madrid want to risk 150 million on him.

We don't want to play a style of football and give the role to pogba that he wants to play with the lack of investment we are seeing in midfield department where even the likes of Ndombele is allowed to join Tottenham like it was with fabhinho who was allowed to join Liverpool.

His strength is no10 and he doesn't have the attitude to play as left side of 3,while the style of play at united isn't possession based which allows more time on the ball to players.

Even 150 m will be a cheap deal for those clubs who understand that he isn't capable of playing the way united has been using him bar those 10 games, and our lack of investment shows we have no Will to play him as a free roaming 10, valuing him for less makes us value him for less too and we will be Mugged when we let a 180-200m worth of talent ( in this market) go for cheap while being quoted 150m for players like Saul niguez as we just can not get our way in the market having being run by clowns with zero footballing steet wise smartness.

 

[clarkydaz]

Been a headache for 3 Manchester United managers now. Impressive

 

[AbusementPark]

Get over it he's our best player and the only world class player to set foot into this club since 2013. Our club is a mess after SAF left and any top players that have ambition will not find it attractive here. Nothing disrespectful about stating the obvious.

The only world class player? What makes him world class? Walking about the pitch, trying to take on the opposition all on his own and losing the ball over and over again and not tracking back to retrieve it? We have had World class players at the club over previous seasons Di Maria. He was the Peak of his game when we got him and he was a beast for Madrid and their best player for the 2 previous seasons. Pogba wasn't even Juves best midfielder when he was with them.

Yes I agree the club is a mess but it's having players like Pogba that don't put the effort in week in week out that contribute to the mess.

 

[Gasolin]

Get over it he's our best player and the only world class player to set foot into this club since 2013. Our club is a mess after SAF left and any top players that have ambition will not find it attractive here. Nothing disrespectful about stating the obvious.

I like the player, but how Pogba is handling this situation is disrespectful to the club, and to say he's wasting his prime in Manchester United is... come on, wake up, this is Manchester United, one of the most iconic football club in the world. And to act like this is a disgrace, to quote Drogba when he was sent off. A disgrace.

 

[MackRobinson]

Ballon d'or really.

He's gotta show far more application to get that sort of recogonition.

Sir Alex had him spot on from day one, we were mugs to fall back into the trap.

The same Sir Alex who desperately tried to get him to resign long term.

 

[tombombadil]

The only world class player? What makes him world class? Walking about the pitch, trying to take on the opposition all on his own and losing the ball over and over again and not tracking back to retrieve it? We have had World class players at the club over previous seasons Di Maria. He was the Peak of his game when we got him and he was a beast for Madrid and their best player for the 2 previous seasons. Pogba wasn't even Juves best midfielder when he was with them.

Yes I agree the club is a mess but it's having players like Pogba that don't put the effort in week in week out that contribute to the mess.

i couldn't agree more.

 

[soaphroniscuss]

I dont think there is a lot to discuss. Bring in the replacements (Bruno, Lo Celso, Olmo or whoever + other positions to fill in (CM/DM, CB, attacker) and take as much money possible for him after spending the cash. Same for Lukaku.

We could get around 220m for the pair of them. That would almost finance our whole summer.

15m James, 50m AWB, 80m Maguire, 60m Bruno/Lo Celso, 30m Longstaff, 40m Ben Yedder is approximately 275m give or take. Net spend around 50m is good business.

i want to see a spending spree now and then sell these cnuts after that. I would wish we would sell some more, like Bailly, Rojo, Darmian, maybe even DDG (i doubt he wants to leave now when his contract is up in a year).

If we paid in installments I don't think it will quite work like that. If we haven't finished paying for them yet then spending the income is contingent on the payment schedules for incoming players and the terms we agreed with the clubs that sold them to us in the first place.

 

[tombombadil]

The same Sir Alex who desperately tried to get him to resign long term.

You mean desperate as in SAF would rather play Park and Rafael in midfield instead of Pogba? Yes. SAF was that desperate.

Pogba backstabbed SAF when he told SAF he was thinking of signing when in fact he had already signed for Juve. The prick.

Don't get me wrong, Pogba has buckets of potential. It's just all wasted on a scumbag of a human being. He won't fulfill his potential until he realises he has to earn it. SAF was right that Pogba wasn't ready mentally. He still isn't.

 

[Gasolin]

You mean desperate as in SAF would rather play Park and Rafael in midfield instead of Pogba? Yes. SAF was that desperate.

Pogba backstabbed SAF when he told SAF he was thinking of signing when in fact he had already signed for Juve. The prick.

Don't get me wrong, Pogba has buckets of potential. It's just all wasted on a scumbag of a human being. He won't fulfill his potential until he realises he has to earn it. SAF was right that Pogba wasn't ready mentally. He still isn't.

I agree with what you say for the players but SAF did value him. It's like saying Jose playing Fellaini meant he valued him more than Pogba... come on. That's not exactly the point, is it?

 

[MackRobinson]

You mean desperate as in SAF would rather play Park and Rafael in midfield instead of Pogba? Yes. SAF was that desperate.

Pogba backstabbed SAF when he told SAF he was thinking of signing when in fact he had already signed for Juve. The prick.

Don't get me wrong, Pogba has buckets of potential. It's just all wasted on a scumbag of a human being. He won't fulfill his potential until he realises he has to earn it. SAF was right that Pogba wasn't ready mentally. He still isn't.

SAF definitely tried to resign him, regardless of choosing not to play him.

Scumbag of human being? Football is not that serious.

 

[Water Melon]

Yep, the right thing to do is to say bring 200m GBP. 350m GBP for Real Madrid and Juventus because they are trying to f*** us.
If Mino is ready to throw a chair, I would bring the chair myself and throw it in front of him too! And ask him if he wants to throw another one.

Mino and Pogba can and will feck off if they do not meet the Glazer's valuation of Pogba. He is a valuable asset and low-balling won't cut it with our Board. If he is not sold, Paul will either have to perform to the level that Ole demands or he is benched. From what I have seen so far, Ed has been absolutely spot on in dealing with Pogba's and Raiola's antics.

 

[Jibbs]

This will be a test of Ed and Ole's resolve. United should unequivocally demand Varane plus 70 million £ or 150 million £ straight up cash. If pogba doesn't show up for training, throw him in reserves.

 

[Jib]

i wonder if it bothers Pogba one bit that the guy who used to coach him for several seasons, who stood by him when he took charge - now realistically could lose his job because Pogba
only thinks about himself?

The same guy who didn't give him back the armband, never allowed him to take the FKs because he weirdly favors Rashford and played him in the DM position for the last 10 games of the season where we lost the top 4 spots after an amazing comeback in the race because Pogba played as an attacking midfielder ?

I don't think that he should miss an amazing opportunity to join his idol in the biggest club in the world because he owns something to this guy.

Get over it he's our best player and the only world class player to set foot into this club since 2013. Our club is a mess after SAF left and any top players that have ambition will not find it attractive here. Nothing disrespectful about stating the obvious.

Spot on !

 

[roonster09]

The same guy who didn't give him back the armband, never allowed him to take the FKs because he weirdly favors Rashford and played him in the DM for the last 10 games of the season where we lost the top 4 spots after an amazing comeback in the race because Pogba played as an attacking midfielder ?

 

[Jib]

Facts.

 

[roonster09]

Facts.

More like nonsense.

 

[Jib]

More like nonsense.

Where ?

 

[Cman]

Set our price high $150m plus. If nobody meets it and his attitude is poor drop him from the squad. Does anybody know when he is due to return to training? CN we fine him weeks wages for not showing up?

 

[roonster09]

Where ?

Didn't give arm band, didn't let him take free kicks, playing him as DM. FFS this is professional football, not some school picnic.

Was Pogba captain or vice captain? No. He was just one of the choice and Young, Smalling, De Gea all wore arm bands many times. He was one of the players in line, not the captain like Valencia.

He didn't play as DM for 10 games, he played deeper than attacking mid.

Re free kicks, he was never regular set piece taker for Juventus, France, ManUtd under Jose.

He shouldn't even be our first choice penalty taker considering the better options at the club and his poor record

He isn't doing any favours to ManUtd by playing here, he is paid shit loads of money, club invested money on him and he signed 6 year contract. He can feck off as long as he can bring good offer from any clubs.

 

[Handsome Devil]

We would be living in "interesting times" (in the sense of the Chinese proverb) if Pogba was to go on strike. How would that play out? Would the media be on our side, regardless of contract? Probably not, they would love to stick the boot in.
And how would it affect the dressing room and on field performances? Would there be a split? Could Ole deal with the fallout?
Rival fans will love it. Cue more joke club discussions on social media.
Who will blink first?

 

[Rossa]

Pogba should never be mentioned in the same breath as Scholes unless the other words are "not even close to lacing" and "boots"

Scholes far the superior player, also at long range passing. However, a Pogba is one of the very few who can hit a sweet long range pass almost similar to Scholes. Not consistently though.

 

[Stacks]

How did Ronaldo do against Ajax this year with Matuidi and Emre Can supplying him instead of Modric btw? Modric at his peak outplayed the best midfielders in the world in so many big Champions League games.

90 million plus Pogba for prime Modric is fair. It’s no more ridiculous than people asking for Isco/Dybala plus 90 million for Pogba.

That is absurd. Modric would never be valued at 200 + million

 

[kouroux]

It will be a long summer. I hope for him that he will be a Real Madrid's player next season. He's too good to waste his prime here blamed for everything.

Man United fans have really been kind and supporting to him in general, if he played like that for Real Madrid, he would receive much worse treatment.

 

[Jib]

Didn't give arm band, didn't let him take free kicks, playing him as DM. FFS this is professional football, not some school picnic.

Was Pogba captain or vice captain? No. He was just one of the choice and Young, Smalling, De Gea all wore arm bands many times. He was one of the players in line, not the captain like Valencia.

He didn't play as DM for 10 games, he played deeper than attacking mid.

Re free kicks, he was never regular set piece taker for Juventus, France, ManUtd under Jose.

He shouldn't even be our first choice penalty taker considering the better options at the club and his poor record

He isn't doing any favours to ManUtd by playing here, he is paid shit loads of money, club invested money on him and he signed 6 year contract. He can feck off as long as he can bring good offer from any clubs.

2016-2017 : Rooney was the captain, Carrick the VC and both of them weren't on the pitch it was Valencia, Smalling and Fellaini ( against Sunderland in avril 2017 )

2017-2018 : Valencia was the captain and Ibra/Pogba were the VC until january when Ibra left and Pogba clashed with Mourinho when we played Tottenham. Since then, if Valencia wasn't on the pitch, Young, Smalling and De Gea wore the armband...

2018-2019 : Valencia was the club captain but he hardly never played, Pogba became the captain until Mourinho said that he will never be again the captain of Manchester United. Since then, Young became the captain and Smalling the VC...and if both of them didn't play, it was De Gea.

For the FKs, it's weird. Pogba is your best player but he never take them. If he played with a set-pieces specialist, ok. But Rashford is really bad. Why didn't you allow Pogba to take them ? With Juventus in his last season when Pirlo left, Pogba and Dybala took all the FKs, with the french NT he is the second taker after Griezmann and I even saw Mbappe who is a better player and a bigger name than Rashford asking Pogba to allow him to take a FK in some games ..but here, while he's by far the biggest star in the club and the best player, he never take them because Mourinho and Ole favor Rashford who scored 1 FK in 204 attempt

Yep Ole played him as a DM. Pereira, Fred and even McTominay seemed to play in front of him in the last 10 games of the season ffs

And yes all those things are extremely important for player. Especially if he is the only world class player in the team and on the top of that, was of the biggest star in the football world. It isn't some school picnic. Managing the ego is the most important thing for a manager. It isn't me who said that but the best managers in the world. We aren't in the 70, 80, 90 or 2000s anymore.

I know that the club and the majority of the fans still live in the past but we should wake up if we want to be great again which it isn't the case since a few years because we didn't adapt to the football of the 2010s...

And maybe you right, he isn't doing any favours to ManUtd by playing here. But the opposite is true too. Pogba had a much bigger hype and a much better image when he was playing in Italy with good player around him, great coach and without the entire british media and some club legend against him.

 

[Jib]

Man United fans have really been kind and supporting to him in general, if he played like that for Real Madrid, he would receive much worse treatment.

Nice one.