That match should seal his sacking. Unbelievably shit from Chelsea
Pochettino | Agrees to be US National Team Coach
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You have to feel for Amadeus. Probably spent the whole weekend writing up a draft for his comeback about how Poch won the cup with his amazing management skills with a bunch of kids he's got playing like prime Brazil.
Harsh to blame Poch for that!
A legacy of failure personified.
Off you feck and take Boehly with you please.
We have Leeds in the cup midweek. They’re on a hot streak. If get knocked out by them, I’m afraid it’s curtains for Poch.
Games up for Amadeus as it is Poch as Chelsea manager.
Guy had Kane, prime Deli Alli, Eriksen, Dembele, Walker, Alderweireld and yet couldn't do anything of note.
It's mental, he's an absolute fraud. Zero tactics, zero man management, no pragmatism
Oh feck, totally forgot that
Feck him. Seriously, feck him.
I think because he managed Spurs people have decided he's allergic to trophies. It didn't help that he was linked with us so half the forum convinced themselves he's the worst manager in the league.
Maybe in your dreams, but I'd doubt it in reality.
I think it's got a long way to run yet.
He’ll see out the season, but I’d hope he wouldn’t survive going out of the cup early to a championship side while sitting in 11th. Maybe it is just wishful thinking but I can’t see any reason to keep him beyond just not wanting to be seen as sacking yet another manager, especially one they spent half of last season head hunting and interviewing.
That ET performance is a sacking offense.
Agree. We had them on the ropes. Honestly, feck Poch.
Poch is a fraud but the failure today is on Boehly and the organization more than anybody else. Amazing that they could spend a billion pounds and yet have so little quality in the forward line other than Palmer while also running out a CB partnership like Disasi and Colwill in a cup final.
I realize they have had a ton of injuries but you also have to ask questions about the organization in that regard in terms of how they are recruiting, integrating players into the setup, and managing their health.
I realize they have had a ton of injuries but you also have to ask questions about the organization in that regard in terms of how they are recruiting, integrating players into the setup, and managing their health.
Surely you're in the long goodbye phase with Poch now regardless of your remaining results. He has been shambolic.
Not beyond the realms of possibility that United, Chelsea, and Liverpool are all looking for new managers this year.
Erik might be free to give you wings in couple of weeks.
There is nothing wrong with that CB pair. Disasi did have a very shaky game though.
I reckon he'll easily see out the season, alot of what is going on at Chelsea isn't his fault afterall, plus they'll be so many top clubs looking for a manager this summer that I'm not sure hiring what's let over will be an upgrade on Poch.
I can see so many parallels with how United have operated over the last 10 years, clueless owners, clueless recruitment, and hiring any top manager that is currently available, then blaming them when it's still crap, and just repeating the whole process again every 2-3 years.
I hope so.
Disasi seems very shaky and error prone in general to me. I rate Colwill highly but its asking a ton of a 20-year-old to pair him with that kind of player in a cup final IMO.
I realize that a number of other CBs are injured and Poch didn't really have any choice.
So why did you include it in your post then?
I rate Disasi to be honest. I don’t think he’s amazing but he’s a good serviceable CB and pairing him with Colwill have produced our best defensive performances this season. He had an individually shaky game but that’s not something I’m going to dwell on when the team actually played well enough to win the game and we lost game on a corner.
I do agree with your criticism of the front line though. Sterling, Mudryk, Madueke are crap. Nkunku is good but feeling his way back. Jackson is good but can’t finish. You’d think for the money spent we’d have some more reliable players there.
So why did you include it in your post then?
I rate Disasi to be honest. I don’t think he’s amazing but he’s a good serviceable CB and pairing him with Colwill have produced our best defensive performances this season. He had an individually shaky game but that’s not something I’m going to dwell on when the team actually played well enough to win the game and we lost game on a corner.
I do agree with your criticism of the front line though. Sterling, Mudryk, Madueke are crap. Nkunku is good but feeling his way back. Jackson is good but can’t finish. You’d think for the money spent we’d have some more reliable players there.
Fair enough on the CBs.
I actually was pretty impressed with David Datro Fofana the other week when Arsenal played Burnley. He didn't get the ball much, so its a bit hard to draw too many conclusions. But there were a couple occasions where he did get the ball in space and got the better first of Saliba and then Gabriel. I understand why Chelsea loaned him but you could have used him in this match I think.
Sounds familiar.So why did you include it in your post then?
I rate Disasi to be honest. I don’t think he’s amazing but he’s a good serviceable CB and pairing him with Colwill have produced our best defensive performances this season. He had an individually shaky game but that’s not something I’m going to dwell on when the team actually played well enough to win the game and we lost game on a corner.
I do agree with your criticism of the front line though. Sterling, Mudryk, Madueke are crap. Nkunku is good but feeling his way back. Jackson is good but can’t finish. You’d think for the money spent we’d have some more reliable players there.
I am not sure he is fraud. He is a decent coach but not a real top one. Fraud, definitely not. It's like a fancy word that people use without any context.
I agree with Boehly part though. This job is one that manager should stay away.
So why did you include it in your post then?
I rate Disasi to be honest. I don’t think he’s amazing but he’s a good serviceable CB and pairing him with Colwill have produced our best defensive performances this season. He had an individually shaky game but that’s not something I’m going to dwell on when the team actually played well enough to win the game and we lost game on a corner.
I do agree with your criticism of the front line though. Sterling, Mudryk, Madueke are crap. Nkunku is good but feeling his way back. Jackson is good but can’t finish. You’d think for the money spent we’d have some more reliable players there.
I've always quite liked Badiashile, thought he was one of the better players under Potter. Assume he's another that's picked up a knock. Two years of Fofana being injured when he looked a terrific prospect at Leicester, Disasi would never have been signed if he could stay fit.
Colwill spent too long this season playing as inverted LB so you need to give him a proper run of 10-15 games as a CB which seems to be happening.
It will be interesting to see who Chelsea get in as the experienced CB to lead that group (you will sign one right....). Someone who's been there and done it and in 28-30 age bracket and who is rarely injured. That might not come up in Clearlake's Data stats but need an experienced head there, wasn't Ivanovic about 25-26 when he signed? Someone of that ilk.
Not suggesting him as a signing but Everton had endless defensive issues and they signed Tarkowski. Vastly experience, hardly misses a game through injury and Branthwaite has come on massively with experienced talker like him next to them so that is profile Chelsea need even if it isn't seen as a glamorous signing.
Seems like Chelsea's season, just like United's, could be basically ended in few days if we get out of Fa Cup. Also think both Poch and ten Hag will be gone at the end of the season.
Poch has done terribly, even worse than I thought he would. He's not very good, he's been an unconvincing manager for a long time. Not that I think Chelsea are setup well for success right now, somethings not right there at all.
He should sue the TV show "The Biggest Loser" for trademark infringement.
Looked so puffy-faced in post match interview, barely Argentinian. He's a loser so expected more empathy on here.
This fraud is Spurs personified
That pre match speech asking not to be judged on whether he wins that final or not. And then he actually admitted that you were playing for penalties.
He hasn't got a winning bone in his body and at this point I think it might be some sort of sub conscious self sabotage.
I said that in December 2018.
"The train has passed. He's past his expiration date." And I said that 2 years ago when there were numerous ETH vs Poch debates on the cafe.
It's amazing how people willfully ignored Neymar and Messi having the worst season of their club careers under this manager. He's been a bang average manager since 2019 imo.
It says a lot about the people doing the hiring at the time.
Don’t think he’s entirely to blame for the season theyre having. To me there’s just no way what Chelsea did in the last 18 months was going to work instantly.
Yesterday however was massively on him. I think you saw the gulf in quality of managers in extra time.
He basically admitted they’d settled for penalties which is extraordinary considering Liverpools track record in penalty shootouts and the fact they had half an hour against a completely makeshift side.
From a tactical and man management standpoint that extra time period was completely damning for Poch. It was a complete no show.
Yesterday however was massively on him. I think you saw the gulf in quality of managers in extra time.
He basically admitted they’d settled for penalties which is extraordinary considering Liverpools track record in penalty shootouts and the fact they had half an hour against a completely makeshift side.
From a tactical and man management standpoint that extra time period was completely damning for Poch. It was a complete no show.