Gaming PlayStation 4 (Console)

FreakyJim said:
They have an AMD laptop piece of poop x86 cpu, clocked at the laughable 1.6Ghz. in their ps4. Could be just me, but it seems they don't quite trust their awesome cell creation.
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The 4 PPE 32 SPE Cell that was once on the IBM roadmap would have been closing in to be a 1TFlop CPU, with tweaks to the PPEs and SPEs it would have smoked any high end Intel/x86/x64 CPU.

IBM never wanted the SPEs in the first place though, made no sense to them.
 
Redlambs said:
Oh no you didn't!

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Answer me this. Why all of the talk about dedicated audio DSP, video compression and decompression hardware with built in non-upgradable codecs, dedicated general purpose compression/decompression? It makes no sense when they already have a mature programmable chip, that they will still probably produce another 20-30m units of for PS3 until the end of its life, that can do those things perfectly and most developers are now comfortable dealing with? Why has Cell never been merged with RSX on the same die? It makes no sense!
 
WeasteDevil said:
Answer me this. Why all of the talk about dedicated audio DSP, video compression and decompression hardware with built in non-upgradable codecs, dedicated general purpose compression/decompression? It makes no sense when they already have a mature programmable chip, that they will still probably produce another 20-30m units of for PS3 until the end of its life, that can do those things perfectly and most developers are now comfortable dealing with? Why has Cell never been merged with RSX on the same die? It makes no sense!
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I'm surprised they have totally ditched the cell (if they have) Both new systems are going to be very similar spec wise once the dust settles.

The games should be up to full speed for the new generation quicker than the last though.
 
If there is no BC in either system, then it is purely spec and gameswise it m aybe PS4 first this gen for me, First to market will be all important without BC imho.
 
The other thing is with all machines being very similar (xbox,PS4 and PC) nearly all games might go multiformat.

I might just stick with PC this gen unless some big titles stay exclusive.
 
DFreshKing said:
The other thing is with all machines being very similar (xbox,PS4 and PC) nearly all games might go multiformat.

I might just stick with PC this gen unless some big titles stay exclusive.
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Most games are already multi format. Very few 3rd party developers make exclusives anymore. Publishers won't allow it.

The only really exclusives you really see are from 1st party devs.
 
Rumor: Sony Aiming for 16 Million PlayStation 4 Consoles for This Year.

Have a bit of fun with that number, unless the launch price is very affordable there is just no way there is going to be demand for that amount is there? I know the sales of consoles has been solid and in this new age where everyone has to have the latest tech gadget at launch, 16 million seems ambitious no?
 
Leg-End said:
Rumor: Sony Aiming for 16 Million PlayStation 4 Consoles for This Year.

Have a bit of fun with that number, unless the launch price is very affordable there is just no way there is going to be demand for that amount is there? I know the sales of consoles has been solid and in this new age where everyone has to have the latest tech gadget at launch, 16 million seems ambitious no?
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How many ps3s have they sold, 60m or something isn't it? Seems pretty ambitious given the normal sales data for most consoles in their first year. It would have to be very reasonably priced ($300 USD or lower) for them to hit that number I think.
 
Bebe said:
How many ps3s have they sold, 60m or something isn't it? Seems pretty ambitious given the normal sales data for most consoles in their first year. It would have to be very reasonably priced ($300 USD or lower) for them to hit that number I think.
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If they are priced under 300$ - there will be possibly be quite a bit more than a measly 16m..
 
A rumour on the number of sales a company is hoping for... is possibly the dullest rumour I've ever heard.
 
What chip would that be Weaste?
 
esmufc14 said:
Weaste has been made to look silly again. This happens all too often sadly.
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What do you think there is to do audio, video codecs, decompression, etc? You reckon there are multiple custom chips on the motherboard to do this shit when they can just plonk in one that can do all that, a chip that they are going to produce at least 25m more units of at least? A chip that has never been fused with RSX? Really? Stick your head up Redlambs' arse!
 
Why would they not include it in the devkits but put it in the console? Surely you would need to develop especially for it if it is included?
 
W said:
Where's Lambo?
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I'm always here. I just haven't bothered with this thread for a bit because quite frankly I reckon it was getting tedious for people to read my posts starting with "well as I said" or things along those lines.

Plus I think it's hit home just how pathetic it's going to be this gen :(


esmufc14 said:
Weaste has been made to look silly again. This happens all too often sadly.
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Meh he brings it on himself though. I've done nothing but stick up for him since that conference, and he still tries it on! Some people just don't want to learn :(


Pexbo said:
Why would they not include it in the devkits but put it in the console? Surely you would need to develop especially for it if it is included?
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Devkits can sometimes go a year or even two into the actual machine's launch of being changed. The fact it only had 8gb of memory in it now is testament to that (future revisions will have more). Sony won't have been 100% on what exact configuration of a butchered Cell or seperate parts to do all the extra stuff W is banging on about, so it's far from uncommon for early dev kits to approximate rather than be final. It's also a lot of the reason early life games are never up to scratch.


NoLogo said:
I thought the point of the new PS4 architecture was not to include cell because most developers complained about it being a pain in the ass to work with.
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It's not so much a pain in the arse, a lot of it made sense. It was just a complete change of the way we already think, and regardless of what W says on here, it's not down to lack of ability more lack of time and money to really focus on it.
 
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