Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang | Orny says deal to Arsenal dependent on Dortmund getting replacement

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Think that clubs are viewing him as a gamble tbh.

Big Fee and Big Wages, His stats are good and he is rapid but there's something missing with him and Dortmund players seem to be hit and miss when they leave.

Belotti and Morata look better options for the clubs still after a number 9.
 
I think I'd take him just to annoy the other clubs . :lol::devil::lol: seriously, he has scored goals consistently
 
do.ob said:
I'm not sure that makes sense since Dortmund is probably paying him least out of all the possible destinations for this season.
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Was just about to post the same.
Think his age and the fact that the clubs badly in need of a striker are looking for a different profile of striker.
A pity for him as I think he deserves a big move.
 
I suspect between now and the end of August he will be off somewhere not sure where mind
Real (if moratta leaves possibly)
Chelsea (if / when Costa goes)
Liverpool
erm yeah actually there probably isnt too many options but i still expect him to go
 
With Aubameyang off the market now (reportedly), it might potentially create grounds for a transaction involving Ousmane Dembele (should, for whatever reason, BVB owners wish to receive a hefty chunk of cash this transfer window which they certainly planned to get through Auba sale). Whereas selling both their star attackers in one go was very unlikely, selling just one is fine if the price is right... And if so, Dembele might be worth bidding
 
Alemar said:
With Aubameyang off the market now (reportedly), it might potentially create grounds for a transaction involving Ousmane Dembele (should, for whatever reason, BVB owners wish to receive a hefty chunk of cash this transfer window which they certainly planned to get through Auba sale). Whereas selling both their star attackers in one go was very unlikely, selling just one is fine if the price is right... And if so, Dembele might be worth bidding
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Why would Dortmund want to receive a big amount of cash this season?
 
Alemar said:
With Aubameyang off the market now (reportedly), it might potentially create grounds for a transaction involving Ousmane Dembele (should, for whatever reason, BVB owners wish to receive a hefty chunk of cash this transfer window which they certainly planned to get through Auba sale). Whereas selling both their star attackers in one go was very unlikely, selling just one is fine if the price is right... And if so, Dembele might be worth bidding
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Dortmund have no owners in the sense you seem to be thinking about. And my impression was that a potential sale of Aubameyang wasn't about needing money, but rather due to a promise made to the player when he last extended his contract. If they wanted to get rid of him or needed the money they wouldn't have ruled out a transfer this early?!
And why would they suddenly sell Dembele, who is at least as (if not more) important as Aubameyang after saying it's too late to sell the latter? Makes no sense.
 
Nuts said:
I've said it time and again - players from Bundesliga don't adapt well in the PL. Hes a big risk.
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That's just not the case. If you were to make a list of transfers from BuLi to PL in the last 10 years, not only would the majority be considered as having adapted well, but actually quite some players who did not look particularly impressive in BuLi found it easier to shine in PL.
 
Cristiano Lell said:
That's just not the case. If you were to make a list of transfers from BuLi to PL in the last 10 years, not only would the majority be considered as having adapted well, but actually quite some players who did not look particularly impressive in BuLi found it easier to shine in PL.
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Fuchs and ?
 
Cristiano Lell said:
Fuchs as a recent prominent example, or players like Can and Matip, even Firmino who had only one good season in Bundesliga.
Make a list and you will find countless others.
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Can, Firmino were just young players who improved with age. Can isn't all that though, just a decent player nothing more.

Overall I agree, which player shines in which league depends on the player, not the league they come from.
 
roonster09 said:
Can, Firmino were just young players who improved with age. Can isn't all that though, just a decent player nothing more.

Overall I agree, which player shines in which league depends on the player, not the league they come from.
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I don't disagree. Just saying there's plenty of BuLi players of all kinds of quality levels who had no problem 'adapting' to or even performing better in PL. Berbatov. Roque Santa Cruz. Rosicky. Sané. Demba fecking Ba :lol: .. Etc. Claiming BuLi players, as a whole, have problems performing in PL is counterfactual.

Agree with your second point, every case is different.
 
Cristiano Lell said:
I don't disagree. Just saying there's plenty of BuLi players of all kinds of quality levels who had no problem 'adapting' to or even performing better in PL. Berbatov. Roque Santa Cruz. Rosicky. Sané. Demba fecking Ba :lol: .. Etc. Claiming BuLi players, as a whole, have problems performing in PL is counterfactual.

Agree with your second point, every case is different.
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Please don't laugh at Demba Ba. He saved the Internet world.
 
Considering the circumstances and their apparent willingness to spend heavily this summer, Liverpool should have him in the bag. He would suit Klopp's style of play and they wouldn't have to rely on Firmino as a pseudo-centre-forward.
 
NYAS said:
Considering the circumstances and their apparent willingness to spend heavily this summer, Liverpool should have him in the bag. He would suit Klopp's style of play and they wouldn't have to rely on Firmino as a pseudo-centre-forward.
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Aubameyang performed much better after Klopp left. And, ironically considering your Firmino comment, Klopp used Auba on the wing mostly. I don't think Klopp-Auba is the best combination and I guess they both know it.
 
Cristiano Lell said:
Aubameyang performed much better after Klopp left. And, ironically considering your Firmino comment, Klopp used Auba on the wing mostly. I don't think Klopp-Auba is the best combination and I guess they both know it.
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Possibly. Although I would say it's also possible Klopp's opinion has changed after seeing what Auba can do as a lead striker.

However, he doesn't seem to be interested. I'm sure he knows better than me but when you take everything into consideration, it seems to make a good amount of sense. It wouldn't be the first time a manager-player combination that didn't seem to work well in the beginning, but then becomes a success later on in each one's career.

But like I said, I guess this is a moot point as long as he doesn't seem interested.
 
Cristiano Lell said:
I don't disagree. Just saying there's plenty of BuLi players of all kinds of quality levels who had no problem 'adapting' to or even performing better in PL. Berbatov. Roque Santa Cruz. Rosicky. Sané. Demba fecking Ba :lol: .. Etc. Claiming BuLi players, as a whole, have problems performing in PL is counterfactual.

Agree with your second point, every case is different.
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Hey do you guys obsess about players being "Bundesliga proven" as much as some here obsess over "PL proven".
 
NYAS said:
Possibly. Although I would say it's also possible Klopp's opinion has changed after seeing what Auba can do as a lead striker.

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But like I said, I guess this is a moot point as long as he doesn't seem interested.
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Oh sure.

But another thing is, why would we assume Aubameyang is interested in joining Liverpool?
The fact that he is hoping for a big move doesn't mean he's hell bent on leaving BVB no matter what. I would assume that he wants to leave BVB if he has the opportunity to make a step up.
But a step up from BVB, there's not so many possibilities - it would be clubs like Real, Barca, the biggest PL clubs (especially financially), probably PSG for a francophone player.

Liverpool or Milan, at this point in time, would not be a step up (maybe they merely offer a bit more wages) and I don't see why he would push to go there.
If his grandmother's dream is him playing for Real, I don't think those two clubs would satisfy her more than BVB..

Keeps It tidy said:
Hey do you guys obsess about players being "Bundesliga proven" as much as some here obsess over "PL proven".
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I don't think that we do. Then again, most BuLi followers probably don't think of their league in quite such a supremacist way as many PL followers, so the label would not mean as much.
Generally speaking, it is of course not absurd to consider it a plus if a player has a record acquired under similar circumstances as the ones he is required to perform in in the future.
 
Cristiano Lell said:
Oh sure.

But another thing is, why would we assume Aubameyang is interested in joining Liverpool?
The fact that he is hoping for a big move doesn't mean he's hell bent on leaving BVB no matter what. I would assume that he wants to leave BVB if he has the opportunity to make a step up.
But a step up from BVB, there's not so many possibilities - it would be clubs like Real, Barca, the biggest PL clubs (especially financially), probably PSG for a francophone player.

Liverpool or Milan, at this point in time, would not be a step up (maybe they merely offer a bit more wages) and I don't see why he would push to go there.
If his grandmother's dream is him playing for Real, I don't think those two clubs would satisfy her more than BVB..
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It would make sense if he is as keenly interested in the massive wages that the media are reporting on. I guess if he could get a contract worth close to £200k/week (which Liverpool should be able to provide at this time) then I don't think it would be too far-fetched to imagine that he would sacrifice the huge step-up he was looking for, to get a higher wage packet, an experience in a new league after playing in Italy, Germany and France, and an opportunity to be the face of a possible, romantic Liverpool resurgence under Klopp.

Who knows, it depends on what he values but if I were him, I could see why the opportunity would be attractive, despite the underwhelming quality of Liverpool.
 
NYAS said:
It would make sense if he is as keenly interested in the massive wages that the media are reporting on. I guess if he could get a contract worth close to £200k/week (which Liverpool should be able to provide at this time) then I don't think it would be too far-fetched to imagine that he would sacrifice the huge step-up he was looking for, to get a higher wage packet, an experience in a new league after playing in Italy, Germany and France, and an opportunity to be the face of a possible, romantic Liverpool resurgence under Klopp.

Who knows, it depends on what he values but if I were him, I could see why the opportunity would be attractive, despite the underwhelming quality of Liverpool.
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If it was money he was after he would surely have pushed through a move to China. He appears a little egotistical to me, claimed fairly early he wanted a move and seemed to think he had done so well that everyone would want him, and yet despite some early interest, it eventually all fizzled out rather than intensifying.

I think he believes he should be at RM, playing right inbetween CR7 and Bale. I feel that's how he views himself, so i doubt settling for significantly less than that would satisfy either his desire or his ego.
 
Do people seriously think we'll be buying another expensive striker? We just laid out 75m for lukaku.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Do people seriously think we'll be buying another expensive striker? We just laid out 75m for lukaku.
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Who is thinking that? The thread was bumped when the last post was in July and it was about his contract renewal.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Why big clubs that have needed a cf have avoided him I'll never understand
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He is kinda one dimensional: not really strong in hold up play, play making. He is good at running in behind but if opposition defend well he can't cause havoc in the box or an drop back and ignite play deeper. He needs main man role to bring his best out. In bigger teams, he is not reliable enough as main man role. And he is expensive both in fee and personal benefit demand. Not a very likable chap either. Too risky even for rich club
 
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ti vu said:
He is kinda one dimensional: not really strong in hold up play, play making. He is good at running in behind but if opposition defend well he can't cause havoc in the box or an drop back and ignite play deeper. He needs main man role to bring his best out. In bigger teams, he is not reliable enough as main man role. And he is expensive both in fee and personal benefit demand. Not a very likable chap either. Too risky even for rich club
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His strength may not be hold up play but he isn't as bad as Lukaku at it. Besides, he can beat a man with dribbling and as a cf his movement off the ball IMO is second to none. Plus he is very effective pressing from the from front in defensive sense.
Apart from a Mourinho team or a Real that need a hold up play/playmaking forward due to CR7, I don't see why other big sides wouldn't need him.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
His strength may not be hold up play but he isn't as bad as Lukaku at it. Besides, he can beat a man with dribbling and as a cf his movement off the ball IMO is second to none. Plus he is very effective pressing from the from front in defensive sense.
Apart from a Mourinho team or a Real that need a hold up play/playmaking forward due to CR7, I don't see why other big sides wouldn't need him.
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Some reports are going around that he is as unprofessional as they come.. Always late, goes abroad without permission ect ect.. That might have something to do with it.
 
He is a clown off the pitch to be fair. Even if you are unhappy with your manager, there are some limits.
 

Alexis replacement will be Aubameyang.

Ballague also tweeted the same earlier..
 
Don’t see how he and Lacazette could work together.
 
Liver_bird said:
Strange move for him, can only assume its a massive wage increase
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It's fake news. He was out of the squad, because his behaviour again and now persons like Balague and Kike think they know, that he will be sold. Dortmund would like to sell him surely, but don't see a club in Europe to buy him for this money.

 
He has these quick feet and agility like Salah. If its true he will be great.
Edit: apparently fake news.
 
NieThePiet said:
It's fake news. He was out of the squad, because his behaviour again and now persons like Balague and Kike think they know, that he will be sold. Dortmund would like to sell him surely, but don't see a club in Europe to buy him for this money.

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Looks like he's doing a Dembele to force a move.
 
Would seem like an odd transfer for him. Such a top quality player who has an amazing goal scoring record.
 
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