Philippe Coutinho Barcelona Player

11101 said:
He's been his usual self. At the heart of every goal in one game and then does absolutely nothing for the next two.
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12 goals and 9 assists in 20 games, 7 MOTM performances.

He has had maybe 3 or 4 bad games out of 20.

There's no chance that Coutinho gets benched in a year. Iniesta is too old, and Coutinho is heads and shoulders above anyone else we can play as CAM.
 
Infordin said:
12 goals and 9 assists in 20 games, 7 MOTM performances.

He has had maybe 3 or 4 bad games out of 20.

There's no chance that Coutinho gets benched in a year. Iniesta is too old, and Coutinho is heads and shoulders above anyone else we can play as CAM.
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He did all that in 10 games. In the other 10 he did nothing. I'm sure he'll play a lot this year but I think you'll soon realise you can't build a title winning team around him.
 
Yeah, right.

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He started the season slow in August after sulking because he didn't get his move in the summer already and that's about it. Him and KdB are the best players in the league easily.
 
Had no idea, he was this good for Liverpool this season.
 
11101 said:
He did all that in 10 games. In the other 10 he did nothing. I'm sure he'll play a lot this year but I think you'll soon realise you can't build a title winning team around him.
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Erm, they are actually building a team around Messi, of which Coutinho is a part. Even if Messi turns 30, he is good enough to be the center-piece of any team.
 
Alot of money but theyve got their man.

A side note, seen on sky sports news coutinho was the player on the liverpool calendar for january
 
Cait Sith said:
Yeah, right.

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He started the season slow in August after sulking because he didn't get his move in the summer already and that's about it. Him and KdB are the best players in the league easily.
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Flat track bully. :cool:

United, nada.
Spurs, nada.
Sevilla, nada.
Chelsea, nada.
Everton, nada.
 
Cait Sith said:
Yeah, right.

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He started the season slow in August after sulking because he didn't get his move in the summer already and that's about it. Him and KdB are the best players in the league easily.
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Easily?! Kane, Aguero, Hazard, Sanchez, Pogba, Eriksen - all world class players in the league and Coutinho is ‘easily’ better than them? Suarez dragged a much more average Liverpool side to the brink of a title, Coutinho’s been there 5 years surrounded by better players and manager and literally achieved nothing.
 
Great player, and probably the guile and invention Barcelona are currently lacking in their midfield.
 
Now he's left that shower of shite I can appreciate what a great player he is
 
Cait Sith said:
Yeah, right.

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He started the season slow in August after sulking because he didn't get his move in the summer already and that's about it. Him and KdB are the best players in the league easily.
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Oh come on, no way is Coutinho better than Hazard. He's been great for Pool this season but he hasn't even been their best player either.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Oh come on, no way is Coutinho better than Hazard. He's been great for Pool this season but he hasn't even been their best player either.
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He's been their best player and he's been better than Hazard this season
 
Infordin said:
Iniesta will turn 34 this year and can’t even play 90 minutes anymore, let alone 2 games per week every week. Coutinho was clearly a needed signing.

Dembele - Suarez - Messi
Coutinho - Busquets - Roberto
Jordi - Umtiti - Pique - Semedo
MATS​

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Iniesta is an #8, Coutinho may become one with coaching but he's very much a #10 or a player who can play in off the flanks behind the striker. To buy Couthino to replace Iniesta is an ambitious move. As we've seen with Kevin De Brunye its not impossible to turn an attacking midfielder into a midfield general but its not exactly common either. If replacing Iniesta was the goal Barcelona would've been better served buying an actual central midfielder.
 
giorno said:
He's been their best player and he's been better than Hazard this season
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Coutinho is a great player, but saying he's better than Hazard is only correct if you're comparing numbers only.
 
Kinsella said:
He said this season.
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I read his post before replaying so you added nothing. Yes saying Coutinho is better than Hazard is imo only based on their numbers. Hazard hasn't been the guy who ranks up goals all the time, but his dribbling open so much for his teammates it's clear on the eye.
 
Rajma said:
Imo he's right, we shall see how Salah is going to perform without Coutinho putting all these nicely timed and weighted balls through to him on regular basis.
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Liverpool's win percentage with Coutinho in the team since he arrived at the club is only something like 2% more than without him in the team. People seem to be talking as if they're losing another Suarez and they'll fall apart without him but in reality he's been a player who tends to play well, score nice goals, make the team look good but isn't remotely as integral to the side as Suarez was. I think they'll be fine without him, as I recall during his injury there were a lot of people saying they should've just sold him in the summer because Pool's attack (and Salah) looked so good still.
 
Interesting that Barcelona want to mould him into an Iniesta type of player.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Liverpool's win percentage with Coutinho in the team since he arrived at the club is only something like 2% more than without him in the team. People seem to be talking as if they're losing another Suarez and they'll fall apart without him but in reality he's been a player who tends to play well, score nice goals, make the team look good but isn't remotely as integral to the side as Suarez was. I think they'll be fine without him, as I recall during his injury there were a lot of people saying they should've just sold him in the summer because Pool's attack (and Salah) looked so good still.
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Salah is in the form of his life and winning them games by himself. If he keeps it up, great for Liverpool, but wing players go through dips in form which we seen earlier this season with Mane. That's when it's vital to have a Coutinho in your team, controlling the game and generally being consistent top quality.
 
IrishRedDevil said:
Salah is in the form of his life and winning them games by himself. If he keeps it up, great for Liverpool, but wing players go through dips in form which we seen earlier this season with Mane. That's when it's vital to have a Coutinho in your team, controlling the game and generally being consistent top quality.
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Liverpool's attack has never been a problem under Klopp, even without Coutinho in the side. Hell, Lallana was top class for them at times last season. I think people are overblowing the loss of Coutinho, I could be wrong, but I think their attack will be fine.
 
#07 said:
Iniesta is an #8, Coutinho may become one with coaching but he's very much a #10 or a player who can play in off the flanks behind the striker. To buy Couthino to replace Iniesta is an ambitious move. As we've seen with Kevin De Brunye its not impossible to turn an attacking midfielder into a midfield general but its not exactly common either. If replacing Iniesta was the goal Barcelona would've been better served buying an actual central midfielder.
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Iniesta at his best was the most creative and attacking mid of the midfield 3, exactly where coutinho plays. It's pretty much like for like. Sergi Roberto is very good but not sure he's the right type to play the midfield general role, but we'll see I guess. Thiago would've been perfect there but they fecked that one up.
 
#07 said:
Barcelona’s spending never ceases to amaze me. Once again splurging on an unneeded player.

Barca is cantering to the title in Spain. Dembele has just returned from injury, now Coutinho’s been added to the mix. An already deep squad just got deeper. No way can everyone be kept happy.

The figures involved are ridiculous too. Barca’s used £300m on two, admittedly top players, for positions they aren’t lacking in. Might’ve been wiser to try and properly replace Xavi and bolster the centre of the Barca defence.

Good business by Liverpool. Already have Keita coming in, and this will give them the funds to improve in centre midfield. It’ll be annoying if Klopp is able to use this money to adequately replace Gerrard.
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I disagree. Barca have barely any depth. Countinho would be a bench player in Barca’s great teams of the past decade or so, maybe even Ronaldinho’s era.
 
Hazard is carrying the attack of the 3rd place team. Coutinho is one of many good attacking players in a top heavy team. Even then its a close call between Hazard and Coutinho. Which tells you everything about the level of both players.
 
breakout67 said:
Hazard is carrying the attack of the 2nd place team. Coutinho is one of many good attacking players in a top heavy team. Even then its a close call between Hazard and Coutinho. Which tells you everything about the level of both players.
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Oh, i didnt know Hazard played for us
 
TheSandman said:
haha, sure does feel like we're 3rd though after seeing some of the fan reactions from those 3 draws on the bounce.
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That's exactly why i said it; surely Chelsea have to be ahead of United after 3 draws in a row; but we've been good enough this season that we can drop points like that and still be ahead.
 
Only similarity with Iniesta is that they both can be bit flashy, and that's about it. He is nowhere near intelligent, good defensively, or controlling the midfield as Iniesta used to, just like his end product is on different level to Iniesta's. They aren't similar players at all.
 
Footballing wise we'll be much worse without him, results wise? Depends how quickly VVD can settle and if he can improve us significantly defensively.
Phil was averaging a goal or an assist every 63 minutes and has been truly sensational this season, often setting the tempo and breaking a deadlock or producing a piece of magic to give us the edge in a game. We need to replace him or at least try to otherwise we're a huge player worse off and significantly dented squad wise.
It's critical we bring someone in.
 
I think coutinho is a perfect signing for barcelona. Remember he is still very young and can really take the baton from iniesta. Him playing just behind messi, dembele and suarez can be so lethal. Even if dembele doesn’t come out to be the player, barca expects, he can still play as attacking midfielder behind messi and suarez.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
People will be up his arse before long now he has left Liverpool. He is a cracking player and a big loss for the scouse.
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Not me mate, I've always rated him :wenger:

I think my anti-scouse bias has led me to underrate him at Liverpool. I know I tend to dwell on his ineffective performances and brush aside some of the great things he can do. Now he's left them, though as with any player he is capable of turning in the odd stinker, I can credit him as a pretty great player who will only get better at Barca.
 
Liver_bird said:
Footballing wise we'll be much worse without him, results wise? Depends how quickly VVD can settle and if he can improve us significantly defensively.
Phil was averaging a goal or an assist every 63 minutes and has been truly sensational this season, often setting the tempo and breaking a deadlock or producing a piece of magic to give us the edge in a game. We need to replace him or at least try to otherwise we're a huge player worse off and significantly dented squad wise.
It's critical we bring someone in.
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The only way you're improving significantly defensively is by changing managers.
 
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