100% agree with you mate....spot on
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Bullshit best in the league behind Courtois and David and David will be gone soon enough I fear...
And Lloris is one of the least commanding keepers in his box that I've seen.
You're in a fine form today.
Also Cech is not the best in the league behind DDG and Curtois..
Yep, what would Bob Wilson know about goalkeeping?
Best in the league behind Courtois and DDG?
He's not a great shot stopper anymore, which Lloris and DDG are, he doesn't command his area like Courtois does, he doesn't decide games like DDG does, what exactly does he do to command that title? Live off past reputation?Hope it's more than he knows about creating a top three.
Rumor is that he wanted to stay in London in this case we have no say.
It's an excellent buy for that price.
Huge upgrade on what Arse have in their ranks.
Yeah but you know if we offered him 200k he would have said yes...
Would set a horrible precedent.
I know but for some it works like that..
Give him a big salary and hope the next player who we will want wont demand a similar one...
Throwing money at him wouldn't be the answer, he is obviously settled in London and wanted to stay there. He's actually conducted himself well from when he was dropped and Chelsea have honoured their agreement.
I know. I was being sarcastic.
Ahh. My bad. Apologies. I think Cech has reached a point where his family come first. Fair play. Arsenal have the best 'keeper they've had in years.
Top class keeper, good set of CBs + Fullbacks. Carrick was world class, RvP was world class. Then on top of that you had very good contributions from Cleverely, Valencia, Young, Giggs, Rooney, Hernandez. You had a very defined way of playing and had the players to pull it off. You finished with 89 points, one of Fergie's highest points tallies during his time. That wasn't no pub team he took to the title.
And if Wenger had more money I'm sure he would have bought some more players in! Not having a top class striker has cost us. I do believe if we had kept hold of RvP or bought Suarez we would have won a title in the last few years. You won't find many/any clubs who win titles with average strikers.
Cech is better than Lloris, and even if you'd argue he's not, he's still going to be the third best goalkeeper in the league next year if De Gea decides to leave.Best in the league behind Courtois and DDG?
Well it's easily more than you.
They need a few more signings and shouldn't rest on their laurels, but he could be decisive if Arsenal are to win the title next season. Significant upgrade on Ospina and Szczesny and I would say the second best keeper in the league once de Gea leaves.
Aww. Defending Cech already. That's nice.
Best in the league behind Courtois and DDG?
Uhm I did say he was the best in the league behind Courtois and DDG didn't I ?
I think he is more commanding than Lloris and allround better and less prone to mistakes
1 Courtois
2 DDG
3 Cech
4 Lloris
5 Forster
6 Begovic
7 Mignolet
8 Hart
9 Ospina
Something like that
No. Bob Wilson said he's the third best (or 1.5 best) already.
The bolded ones were horrific most of the time. You should have seen this place every time we started with them and inevitably ended up getting dominated in the midfield. Sorry but Rafael, RvP, De Gea, Carrick and Hernandez (off the bench) were the only good things about that team. The CB's weren't good either, you probably don't remember how horrific we were at the back until Vidic came out of injury around January time. That game where we conceded 3 goals to Reading said it all.
To say Wenger hasn't had a better squad than that over the past decade (when you haven't won the league) wouldn't be an outrageous comment
I didnt say it was a pub team but it wasnt a great team either. And it wasnt so much different in class than Arsenal teams in the last few years. I'd say some Arsenal teams were better than our 2013 team.
it's been said HERE on the forum and from some Twitter sources but we're we ever actually in for him?
We will never know.
How could we know? Maybe someone could email the club and ask, I dont know.
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if he says in his first interview as an Arsenal player that staying in London was a big factor. So we may know.
I remember Evans having a good season, I can't say I watched too much of you that season but I do remember you had a good solid base to that team. Then RvP propelled you to the title but a lot of the team behind him put in good solid shifts. I remember you giving a good R.Madrid team a tough game and the team can't be that bad if that was the case. Maybe they peaked that season but I do remember the likes of Cleverely having a very good season.
I do believe our teams haven't been that good, more often than not we have been punching above our weight. Most teams were built on very little money and in the end that showed. Apart from our First XI we usually had very little in reserve.
The season before you finished equal on points with City and lost out due to GD, lets not make it out like that was one of Fergie's worst teams. It was a very well drilled and efficient team. Not as exciting as others but still very good.
You obviously haven't been watching Arsenal much!
Best in the league behind Courtois and DDG?
Terrible, terrible post. Cech is still world class. He kept 5 clean sheets in 7 PL games for Chelsea in 2015, the most clean sheets this year in the league.
Best in the league behind Courtois and DDG?
Confirmed didn't watch him play last year.
I'm talking about players you had not how you played in the sense Fergie would have won at least one title with Arsenal.
Evans? I remember we leaked goals for some time extensively and in the attack we would save things, mainly by RVP, after he stopped other players picked up. We grinded out the results, played poorly for the most part and got dominated by Southampton and other teams at OT.
Cleverley was decent but nothins special.
We gave Madrid a good game cause Fergie wanted a last hoorah in the CL but overall it was a poor team which punched above its weight mainly cause of Fergie and Fergie alone.
Cheers. Seems a fair sum.
Probably the best keeper Arsenal have had since Seaman, only took them 12 years or so
In fairness we were pretty poor in our decisions post-Pete.
Err?
Well he has been good in the second part of the season for LFC
You may be slightly overrating Ferguson here. He was a brilliant coach but he also had some very good players alongside some world class ones. That side was not a poor team in my opinion.
One title with Arsenal. Are we talking about a scenario where all of our players at the time were fit or would Ferguson have to deal with the same injuries that Wenger had to deal with and contend with a Ronaldo inspired Man Utd and a Mourinho inspired Chelsea as well as a mediocre budget?
If we're talking after Ronaldo and Mourinho left, I still do not see how a side containing Olivier Giroud in his first few seasons, Gervinho, Andre Santos and Jenkinson are supposed to win the premier league.
I know everyone loves to say that we have underachieved over the past decade but that is only half true. The club itself underachieved during that period (only if you judge success by the standards that Wenger himself set), but the teams we've had have pretty much performed as expected, when you look at the quality of players and the teams we were competing against. We have had some pretty awful teams recently, just look at where the majority of our ex-players currently are for proof. We did not really play any beautiful football from the time Fabregas left until Ozil arrived but no one ever mentioned it.
This is a new look Arsenal and we will be stronger if Cech arrives but by no means are we ready to launch a full assault for the league title. If Coquelin goes down then we're back to Flamini starting and Giroud is far from good enough. There is still a lot of work to be done on this squad. If I'm honest I can't think of any manager who could have won the league with Arsenal over the past 9 years, except perhaps 2008
I think you guys a just seriously underrating your team. 89 points two seasons in a row isn't just down to Fergie. How come he couldn't manage that with so called better squads?
To be fair Jens was fantastic for us, sometimes a bit erratic but on the whole fantastic. 05-06 the guy was as good as any keeper, had a great world cup as well
Fee has been agreed between Chelsea and Arsenal
£10.3m
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You act like he's the only goalkeeper in the world, and you're forgetting that we still haven't concluded things with the De Gea saga. We're not going to sign a high profile goalie while De Gea is still officially a United player. According the rumors before this imminent signing Cech was promised the number one shirt at Arsenal.
United wouldn't be in the same position to offer such assurances to a highly rated keeper right now. Lets not kid ourselves, the De Gea saga will go to the wire and only when its over will we be able to get a replacement in
It isnt just down to Fergie but the big big part is.
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