Well Torres' must have been more than 50m, so Reina's will definately be >20m.
Pepe Reina?
- Thread starter Drifter
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to celebrate rare back-to-back victories for Manchester United! They analyse the late win in the Europa League vs. Rangers and then try and find things to analyse in a pretty dour game vs. Fulham. They also chat about the latest Marcus Rashford news, and look at the latest transfer news.
I would be surprised if they had a simple release clause inserted in last summer into their contract.. It could be tied with qualification for the CL tho
Maybe agreeing to let them go for a certain amount if the club failed to qualify at the end of the season. That would make more sense.
All guesswork tho
Arse could do with him
Maybe agreeing to let them go for a certain amount if the club failed to qualify at the end of the season. That would make more sense.
All guesswork tho
Arse could do with him
He really isn't. To claim so is delusion at its best.
The same old excuse people used when Foser was here flaying for us. I've seen Reina make Barthez like errors since before Liverpool signed him. He is the type who drops a howler out of the blue and then he has a torrid game through out aftwards.
Could be? 
We've seen him repeatedly turn into utter shit after a huge mistake. That's the type of goalkeeping United can't afford. Men like Schmeichiel in the past and Van Der Sar right now can pull a howler and finish a game very strongly.
He really isn't. To claim so is delusion at its best.
The same old excuse people used when Foser was here flaying for us. I've seen Reina make Barthez like errors since before Liverpool signed him. He is the type who drops a howler out of the blue and then he has a torrid game through out aftwards.
We've seen him repeatedly turn into utter shit after a huge mistake. That's the type of goalkeeping United can't afford. Men like Schmeichiel in the past and Van Der Sar right now can pull a howler and finish a game very strongly.
Who the feck is better?Supposedly it is only activated if Liverpool fail to qualify for the Champions League.
He's not even as good as VDS.
Source?
Yes, he quite clearly is.
Not as an all round keeper in my opinion.
He may be a better shot stopper than VDS but VDS has better distribution and is more reliable on crosses.
Read it on Twitter during the Torres transfer business, don't even know who from. Take with a pinch of salt.
Maybe crosses, I havent studied Reinas cross taking ability that expertly, but it doesnt stand out as an issue anyway.
But Reinas distribution is also fantastic, wouldnt be any worse than VDS.
He probably should wait until nearer the end of the season before saying anything, as it could cause animosity from the fans for the next few months. If we're in for him, it needs to be brought out into the open at the end of the season- not now. He'd have to come out in the press to deny he wants to move to us just to appease them, and that could feck up his moving to us.
Neuer is way better. Buffon still is. Diego Lopez of Villalreal is also superior to him. Although he is average with the ball at his feet. I also prefer Stekelenburg to him. Because that fellow is so calm even though talent wise he is a Lehmann, but with superb distribution skills.
Sorry chief I think you are way off the money here. you'd honestly prefer Stelekenberg to Reina?
Interesting.
Yes. He might not be as talented but he doesn't fall apart after a mistake, rarely makes any and is far superior when it comes to distribution. Reina is so overrated its untrue. At United mistakes would kill him the same way they killed Barthez.Sorry chief I think you are way off the money here. you'd honestly prefer Stelekenberg to Reina?
Repeatedly?
Care to give a few examples of this repeated behaviour, Chief?
you paint him out as Almunia chief, he's mistakes aren't as frequent to be that worried
Top, top keeper. He's an amazing shot stopper and has the best distribution out of any keeper I've seen since Schmeichel. VDS is equal to him at most things though, apart from his shit distribution.
Makes about one howler per season. Luckily for you guys he did so now with Spain.
I wouldn't call him the best keeper in the Premier League, but I'd have to grudgingly admit that Reina at United makes a certain amount of sense. He does seem to be very pragmatic about Liverpool's decline.
It makes some sense when you think about it. I'm sure he has some connection to the club, but I'm also sure a lot of that connection used to be the heavy Spanish/Spanish speaking presence. Who's left now? Not many.
It makes some sense when you think about it. I'm sure he has some connection to the club, but I'm also sure a lot of that connection used to be the heavy Spanish/Spanish speaking presence. Who's left now? Not many.
Am I reading this correctly - that VDS has shit distribution?
Don't think they are any. Perhaps Cech that one season. Shortly after Mourinho's arrival.
Peter Schmeichel has been repeatedly saying in interviews and twitter and what not, that Pepe Reina is the perfect replacement for Van Der Saar when he retires at the end of the season. I’d trust the best keeper I’ve ever seens opinion rather that random nutters off the internet.
I’d love to see him at United and if Liverpool don’t make the Champions league this season I reckons he’ll look to move. If we pay the asking price is another matter. I don’t get the Liverpool wont sell him to us argument. As we seen with Torres last week if a player wants to go to a certain club it’s very had for his current club to stop it.
I’d love to see him at United and if Liverpool don’t make the Champions league this season I reckons he’ll look to move. If we pay the asking price is another matter. I don’t get the Liverpool wont sell him to us argument. As we seen with Torres last week if a player wants to go to a certain club it’s very had for his current club to stop it.
This is surely not going to happen.
50 mil was the release clause on Torres - that was widely known after the first approach. So not sure why people are thinking that Reina wouldn't have one as well. 20 mil sounds fine considering he is a keeper.
Really wonder how much people watch the dippers play cause he is consistently one of their best players and bails them out time and time again. Yes, he has made some mistakes but, have to think as a keeper at age 28, that's considered fairly young or just coming into their prime. More likely to make less mistakes at this stage in his career.
Neur, De Gear and whoever else - not proven in the Premier League where crossing and high balls and big defenders attacking free kicks and corners, where a little more is allowed. Even then Reina is as good as any of the other names thrown out there if not better.
To me 20m for a keeper that can keep us as water tight as possible for the next few years is as important as any striker or CM. So much of our game is predicated on having a stable defense and we saw last season when we didn't have that stability how much it affected our game going forward as well.
It's a muppet's dream but, if he does have the clause in his contract, I do hope we try trigger it and put it into Reina's hands. Worst case it causes more angst amongst the supporters and players there.
Edit: One note for people that aren't familiar with the the new Pool owners. They trade (sold) Johnny Damon to the Yankees from the Red Sox. That rivalry is as old as the rivalry United has with Liverpool. They aren't beyond it that's for sure if it makes sense.
Really wonder how much people watch the dippers play cause he is consistently one of their best players and bails them out time and time again. Yes, he has made some mistakes but, have to think as a keeper at age 28, that's considered fairly young or just coming into their prime. More likely to make less mistakes at this stage in his career.
Neur, De Gear and whoever else - not proven in the Premier League where crossing and high balls and big defenders attacking free kicks and corners, where a little more is allowed. Even then Reina is as good as any of the other names thrown out there if not better.
To me 20m for a keeper that can keep us as water tight as possible for the next few years is as important as any striker or CM. So much of our game is predicated on having a stable defense and we saw last season when we didn't have that stability how much it affected our game going forward as well.
It's a muppet's dream but, if he does have the clause in his contract, I do hope we try trigger it and put it into Reina's hands. Worst case it causes more angst amongst the supporters and players there.
Edit: One note for people that aren't familiar with the the new Pool owners. They trade (sold) Johnny Damon to the Yankees from the Red Sox. That rivalry is as old as the rivalry United has with Liverpool. They aren't beyond it that's for sure if it makes sense.
I wouldn't mind Pepe R but I just can't see it happening, especially considering how Fergie refused to sell them Heinze.
His mistakes are few but rather costly. For they always come at the wost moments ala Barthez. Remember his gaffes vs Everton over the years? What of what he did for Spain away in Buenos Aires? That had all the hallmarks of Barthez's errors for us. & trust me Barthez was several levels above Almunia. Yet still not the best fit for United.
Reina = Barthez.
All 'keepers make mistakes, Chief.
Like the very best, Reina makes relatively few.
You're wrong here, Chief. Reina is no calamity.
VDS? Shit distribution?.... did I really just read this or did someone sneak some shrooms into my afternoon cuppa?
I am not. Reina is the exact same Keeper as Barthez with the exact same flaws. People here talk as if Barthez used to make mistakes every week and was a 'calamity'. Which is a total myth. Barthez just used to make high profile errors at the wrong time. About 2 a season. Yet even he was not deemed good enough for United.
Reina is no calamity, Chief.
You may think he lacks in other departments, but he is as solid as a rock. Makes the old mistake, mind. They all do.
Reina doesn't make many mistakes - some of you need to take pretend that he doesn't play for Liverpool FC just for 10 seconds and you'll realise what a superb, all round GK he is.
He is definately one of the best in Europe - he'd cost a fortune too if we were to lure him to Old Trafford
He is definately one of the best in Europe - he'd cost a fortune too if we were to lure him to Old Trafford
Reina's a good keeper, no doubt about that. He's made to look worse due to the porous defence he's had infront of him this year - no surprise he's looked world class again when Dalglish arrived and sorted out the back four.
The only thing that will feck this up is our propensity to not spend big anymore. Reina would come to us I think, and Liverpool would take the money if it was offered. However, we're more likely to spend £7-9 million on some homeless unknown than £20 million on a proven PL player, who is top in his position.....which is a bit spasticated really
He is way better than Barthez. I don't think we have to worry about that. He is taller, quicker and a better shot stopper.
Why is everyone going on in here about how Liverpool will not sell us Reina? He has a buyout clause and if we match the price in his clause, then they have no choice but to let us talk to Reina about contract situations. Then it is up to the player and not the club he is playing for. If we are not going to match his buyout clause price, then it is a whole different story. If we offer anything less than the 20m clause price, then we will not get him.