More entertaining football, but somehow creating far less chances, scoring (and conceding) less goals, and probably setting the record for scrappy wins?
Imagine actually trying to suggest Guardiola had this perfect squad when City finished 3 points ahead of Southampton and 4 Wet Ham and were only fourth
What is even more comical is people can only name 6 players good enough. 1 was potential in Sterling. One injury prone in Kompany.
Hyperbole is definitely a good tool in a debate. Makes you comes across well.
The difference here is I've not once claimed City have been good in the league this season.
Not better than Clichy
Mata/Rooney more finished than Toure and Zabaleta
Herrera was wanted by Barca and was highly rated in Spain.
Fernandinho is a good player but not world class.
So much wrong in that post.
...Compliment from someone who said Mata was finished more than Zabaleta. Try Cricket, football is not for you!feckin hell mate, you're deluded as hell
Alright
I’m not saying they were but they’d a better squad than everyone else. Half their best starting eleven now was at the club then. That thread isn’t great proof for you when one of the early posts is somebody laughing at them compared to our signings of Darmian, Depay and Schweinsteiger. Does that strike you as people you should listen to? The fact they were bookies favourites for the title tells a lot more than some weird United fans thoughts.
Pass, pass, pass round the houses may entertain you. Tactical fouls to stop the opposition counter attacking may also entertain you because then you can watch more of Citys boring play?
Is that the year Barcelona signed Thomas Vermaelen?
Hes dominated leagues with players like Walker, Stones, Otamendi, Keita, Fernandino, Zinchenko, Danilo, Gundogan, Hleb, Marquez, Pedro, Sylvinho, Gudjohnson featuring regularly.
That has to go down as one of the most bizarre Barca's transfer, they seem to have a habit of signing underwhelming players like these. I think Pep will stay on for at least two more seasons and I don't think City will collapse like how some are making it out, even if Pep leaves. Before Pep, they were still pretty dominant with Mancini. They have a good foundation with infrastructure even before Pep arrived, and they have a good youth team as well. Let's not forget Sancho came from City's academy. On the other hand, I have no doubt that Liverpool will struggle after Klopp leaves.
Same year City spent £42m on Mangala, £25m on Bony and £12m on Fernando...
Agreed. The City league position before Pep game is well known. I don't understand how some people can deny that once Pep was announced the players effectively downed tools midseason.
Yep. Klopp has done it the proper way at Liverpool. For that I give him begrudging congratulations.
Walker the most expensive defender in history at the time?
This is the topic I have no interest debating about anymore. I have made peace with the fact that majority of people in our culture just seem to have poor taste, as in art and politics, even more so in sports. That opens something like a philosophical debate that has no place in football forum.
. Danilo's price was also extremely steep for a mere backup player even at the time.Make a post saying needs 'world class players in each position'
A large list of non world class players produced and that statement gets changed to top players, fees paid...
This place man.
Assume Maguire, AWB, David Luiz, Keita, Fabinho, Lukaku, Kepa, Felix, Pepe etc are all top top players as cost 50m+
Funny thing this guy does not seem to grasp is he is comparing those 6 players in that city squad that were "good enough" to 6 other "good enough" players of another top 6 club, ignoring the fact that all of those 6 "good enough" players of City would've started for probably the majority top club on the planet at that time. In his eyes, a squad consisting of mostly but not all of all time greats and rest filled squad players would've been inferior to some "good enough" squad like Chelsea/Spurs today probably.
Also, proceeds to name Walker and Stones, who were bought (alongside with Mendy, let's not forget) by Pep himself for world record fees for defenders at the times whilst naming them "average" at the same time, feckin hell
Those Pep fanboys really makes you sometime forget to appreciate the great, great team that Pep formed at Barca. His achievements after that with Bayern and City, certainly not horrendous, but also definitely nothing extraordinary.
The point obviously being that Barcelona wanting a player doesn’t mean they’re a good player. I wouldn’t expect you to understand that though.
Not many understand the repetitive nonsense you spout tbh.
feck me. The irony. Depay is in the same league as De Bruyne, you’re right, I was wrong.
The striker being in the side to bring in the wide men, the defensive nature of the hard working midfield and the defensive structre of Cech / Terry that holds it together.
If winning is all that matters, then Klopp is obviously the best. Guardiola's football philosophy is probably not conducive to creating warrior team that will grind and overachieve, and in which average players will seemingly become elite through sheer inspiration. Not to say he couldn't do something similar (he's obviously a great coach and charismatic in his own way), but when it comes to transforming an underdog into a winning machine, there is no equal to Klopp, what he does is magical.
I agree with pretty much everything you've written there and maybe I didn't word my original post as well as I could have done. Klopp and Pep are the two best managers in world football right now and the way that City and formerly Barca played under Pep was and is incredible. They are a great team to watch when they're on their game and the term 'total football' was coined for a team like that.
That's quite possible, and it would be really interesting to see Klopp managing the side stacked with talent, but with the burden of huge expectations. Maybe that kind of situation actually is emerging with his current team.
So we've gone from him inheriting/needing world-class players in every post to him inheriting 5-6 top players (without naming them) and "some good ones"? Alright then...
