'Pep' Guardiola sack watch

The most logical reason behind pep signing a new deal is that he knows City are going to be rightfully relegated and he wants to prove he can achieve something with them that is actually their level, a playoff push in the championship perhaps.

Pep is no fool, he knows as well as the rest of us do that every single thing city have ever “won*” essentially doesn’t count because it was achieved through financial doping and cheating.
 
An outright 2-year extension and not a 1-year with a option for another like first reported is surprising but a very welcome one. Given where our squad is at the moment, and the amount of refreshing I think we need I think he either goes after next season or stays beyond the two years.

It’s impossible to know for sure but I think there’s a good chance he knows something about the charges that we don’t.
 
" I think we deserve to be here. I am not arrogant to say, but it's the truth"

Unbelievable.
 
It’s impossible to know for sure but I think there’s a good chance he knows something about the charges that we don’t.
I'm not sure if I think along those lines, but I can see why people do. I think the general running of the club, and based purely on the fact that we aren't asset stripping the club already should tell a story about a board that is confident that this isn't a situation that will have long-standing ramifications financially or on the pitch, but I also don't think the manager or players signing contracts or comitting their future is a indication for anything other than the confidence inside the club, which doesn't really mean we will be succesfull on it's own. But then again, no one knows the progress of the case.

But personally I have always been of the understanding that if the club is found guilty on anything other than the non-cooperation charges and the punishment is as severe as some think and many wants, the whole paperhouse falls apart, and the current infrastructure of the club will crumble from within from boardroom level and the asset stripping will force itself. So long story short, players or staff doesn't see this as comitting to a potentially sinking ship but rather a stable situation they can wash their hands off pretty easily once it turns ustable or catastrophic. They would be labeled cheats by association by many, of course but it will have close to no impact on their future endeavors in reality. So I don't think people should put too much stock in stuff like this, other than the fact that pretty crafty directors seem to plan ahead despite these charges. But pretty crafty directors did get us into this situation in the first place. So looking for clues is meaningless. Based on everything set in motion by the club in the last few years, you could say that it is like the charges didn't even happen at all, but they obviously did and they are still very much there until resolved one way or another
 
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Just randomly came across this, how did he get away with this? Must have missed it at the time.


He talks a lot of bollocks that's why the media didn't even pay attention to it. They were just like meh another City conference, in reality they were waiting for the coffee break.
 
Jokes aside it was probably his poor grasp of English that led to him phrasing it like that.

Although Yaya toure didn't have the best to say about him and there's also that incident with Roberto Carlos back in the day so make of that what you will.
 
Tears of joy for him being around for City’s decline and ouster from the league
Do you genuinely believe this?

I find it staggering that people seem to. Of course I get that you'd love it to happen, but there is ZERO percent chance this will happen, zero.

At worst (best in your eyes) City will get an inconsequential fine for some trivial non-cooperation offence. Conceivably - although IMO even more unlikely - a few points deduction, which would impact 1 season only.

The likely scenario is that we will be found innocent of all important charges. Or at least no significant charges will be proven.

Why do I say this? Not because I am a City supporter, but because of the nature of the charges. For the majority of them, there would have had to have been a conspiracy to defraud that involved not only City executives, but also board members of other companies, AND the auditors of us and the third parties. If proven, the charges would mean criminal activity had occurred, not just something as trivial as PL rule-breaking. You cannot knowingly file accounts which erroneously declare your revenues or outgoings, and get you auditors to sign off in them. That is a criminal offence and it would have to have involved many people inside City and outside. This is so unlikely as to be inconceivable. Why on earth would partners an independent big audit firm risk jail sentences to help fiddle our books? It's nonsense, I'm afraid.
 
Do you genuinely believe this?

I find it staggering that people seem to. Of course I get that you'd love it to happen, but there is ZERO percent chance this will happen, zero.

At worst (best in your eyes) City will get an inconsequential fine for some trivial non-cooperation offence. Conceivably - although IMO even more unlikely - a few points deduction, which would impact 1 season only.

The likely scenario is that we will be found innocent of all important charges. Or at least no significant charges will be proven.

Why do I say this? Not because I am a City supporter, but because of the nature of the charges. For the majority of them, there would have had to have been a conspiracy to defraud that involved not only City executives, but also board members of other companies, AND the auditors of us and the third parties. If proven, the charges would mean criminal activity had occurred, not just something as trivial as PL rule-breaking. You cannot knowingly file accounts which erroneously declare your revenues or outgoings, and get you auditors to sign off in them. That is a criminal offence and it would have to have involved many people inside City and outside. This is so unlikely as to be inconceivable. Why on earth would partners an independent big audit firm risk jail sentences to help fiddle our books? It's nonsense, I'm afraid.
If you say so.

Apparently all the notriously scummy companies and conmen that have comnited Man City esque frauds didn’t have independent auditors. Fascinating logic.

Reeks of “I don’t like it so it can’t be true”. Pretty sad stuff.

Absolute sham of a club.
 
If you say so.

Apparently all the notriously scummy companies and conmen that have comnited Man City esque frauds didn’t have independent auditors. Fascinating logic.

Reeks of “I don’t like it so it can’t be true”. Pretty sad stuff.

Absolute sham of a club.
What a strange post. My logic is that the various parties DO have independent auditors (which is the case) and it would be rather remarkable if all these independent parties were all in on some grand fraud to help City file fraudulent accounts.

Seems to me it's you and your chums who are clutching at straws, not me. So desperate to see us found guilty for something - anything - rather than face up to the fact that it's a well run club that's achieved great things through a strategic long-term plan.

No doubt we've employed creative accounting to remain within the rules, but I suggest if you have a problem with creative accounting you might want to consider why your club is registered in the Cayman Islands.
 
What a strange post. My logic is that the various parties DO have independent auditors (which is the case) and it would be rather remarkable if all these independent parties were all in on some grand fraud to help City file fraudulent accounts.
Fraud is always remarkable. Remarkably cnutish, that is, which fits well with that joke of a club.

The idea that an entity can’t commit fraud because it’s got an independent auditor is about the dumbest thing that will be posted on the forum all week. Well done, you.
 
Not really. But I'd personally love a journey through the divisions again

Not arsed by city's charges. The club is now state owned. League One relegation means you'll be back in three to four years. It's a delay more than an actual punishment.

The actual problem with city is the nature of the club's ownership.

I would castigate the mentality of the 'Red Cartel' chuntering flunkies within your support, but there's plenty on our side who'd defend the likes of Qatar.
 
What a strange post. My logic is that the various parties DO have independent auditors (which is the case) and it would be rather remarkable if all these independent parties were all in on some grand fraud to help City file fraudulent accounts.

Seems to me it's you and your chums who are clutching at straws, not me. So desperate to see us found guilty for something - anything - rather than face up to the fact that it's a well run club that's achieved great things through a strategic long-term plan.

No doubt we've employed creative accounting to remain within the rules, but I suggest if you have a problem with creative accounting you might want to consider why your club is registered in the Cayman Islands.

Mate... its not desperate to see City found guilty, PL clubs just want fair treatment.

When City state that they have more revenue than Real and Barca, whilst only having ME sponsorship, its kind of obvious.
 
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Relegation form. Should get Frank in to steady the ship.
 
I look forward to seeing him at my local National League club next season.
 
Such a shame we mucked up our league challenge. I felt this was the year, but again as I have said its on Arteta for not playing Nwaneri. We aren't a serious team depending on one CAM to be fit.
 
Sacked in the morning.. you're getting.... no seriously, wonder what payout he just negotiated should he be let go...
 
The worm has turned.
City have lost their aura. And teams have realised that they are far from invincible.
They used to sit back and try to defend.

But now they are attacking them and surprise surprise, their defence is not that good.

The bad news though is that Pep would probably not have signed the contract extension if he really thought City were going to be penalised by the PL for the financial irregularities.