And fwiw, he'd be a good option to have on the right if we use his excellent movement and finishing ability. But that'd require our passing and style in general to improve considerably. If not, he'd be an utter waste as he's not someone that'l excel individually to win us games and that's the kind of the thing we unfortunately rely on.
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Pedro would leave Reus for dead.
I'd pay £30m for him.
I've been of the view that a winger shouldn't be high on our list of priorities (central-midfield, left-back and centre-back being the areas of urgent need) but I'm coming round to the idea that really need an injection of pace in the attack. Our fastest wingers seem to be Nani who has hamstring issues now, and Valencia who most of the time looks devoid of confidence once he gets into a decent position. Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj, RVP and Rooney have little pace in this sense, which basically leaves Welbeck in the attack.
I've not focused on Pedro much recently, but I rated him highly a few seasons back.
I've not focused on Pedro much recently, but I rated him highly a few seasons back.
Di Maria and Sanchez would be higher on my list to be honest.
In terms of pace? Easily so... But would agree with the previous poster that Reus is not good in tight spaces?
Good player but seems to be severely overrated here. Many better wide players about, if we were to spend big bucks on a winger he'd be well down the list.
I like him. He's far better then anything else we have on the wing, he's stupidly fast, and he knows how to score a goal. Infact, I just checked his record, and for a winger, its fantastic (about 1 in 3).
He's not a winger as such, which is why I like him. He's a forward that scores goals. If we're to get the very best out of Mata and Kagawa then we need speedy forwards that are prepared to make runs in behind defences and put the ball away. A tricky winger would be nice, but a versatile forward like Pedro or Reus that will rack up the numbers is a lot more beneficial to us, as well as Mata individually.
Barça won't be selling their players in the summer, they can't afford to weaken their squad during a period of a transfer ban.
I think that he'd look even better and take on more responsibility if he wasn't in a side where he's one of the worst players and mostly just there to distract people so Messi can score. He was brilliant when Messi was injured.
Are they even allowed to sell their players? Assumed the transfer ban meant it went both ways, not just incomings.
A wide player who knows how to make a run in behind the opposition defence? Would be very welcome.
They can still sell players. The ban is unlikely to have an effect this summer anyway - the appeals process will take a long time, thereby pushing back the start of the ban (assuming it is upheld) beyond the summer window.
Are you mad?!! Reus is rapid.
So is Pedro.
He's no Kevin Mirallas, or something
Spped wise? No way, Reus is faster.
Well football manager 2014 has Pedro down as
Acceleration - 17
Agility - 14
Pace - 15
And it has Reus down as
Acceleration - 18
Agility - 16
Pace - 16
/comparison
Acceleration - 17
Agility - 14
Pace - 15
And it has Reus down as
Acceleration - 18
Agility - 16
Pace - 16
/comparison
I like his name
Else he is not worth any serious money; you can sign me up! no fee and I am okay with 1mio/year.
Else he is not worth any serious money; you can sign me up! no fee and I am okay with 1mio/year.
Are you on permanent wind-up mission or do you actually believe what you go around posting? Serious question.
I haven't checked his statistics (I used to love football before the Football Manager era when everything didn't have to be backed up with statistics and players were rated on merit) but from what I can tell from watching Barcelona, he probably manages a goal every four games. As a forward for Barcelona, that's not really impressive.
Welbeck's conversion rate, despite being maligned, is up there with that, possibly even better, hence my comparison between the two. You'll also notice in my post that I used the word 'real' in a bid to give my point some context. It wasn't as if I said he and Welbeck NEVER score goals, for fück's sake!
Christ, this place is very tetchy these days. Every fanboi gets offended when their idol isn't praised to the heavens.
He's a 1 in 3 man playing exclusively from the wing, how the hell is that not having a snout for goal?
Conversely Welbeck scores a goal every 4.6 games playing sometimes as a striker and sometimes as a winger.
If we were to get a wide forward from Barca, as much as id take Pedro in a heartbeat - i would prefer if we signed Sanchez.
Yeah, we all idolize Pedro
When you say something as daft as Pedro not having a snout for goal, expect to be called out on it. Resorting to the boring old "FM generation", "you are a fanboi" nonsense is childish.
Yeah, we all idolize Pedro
When you say something as daft as Pedro not having a snout for goal, expect to be called out on it. Resorting to the boring old "FM generation", "you are a fanboi" nonsense is childish.
Obviously local dialects are playing a part here. Where I'm from, saying somebody has "no real..." isn't insinuating that they absolutely haven't got that specific trait, it's just that they possess smidgins of it, e.g. we'd say that Demichelis has no real defensive strengths, when in fact he obviously has (positioning, anticipation etc.)
It's just a way of speaking that's commonplace to mean the person in question doesn't possess the trait(s) in abundance. I see nothing wrong with using it in the context I did when analysing a 1-in-4 goal record.
Also, (and correct me if I'm wrong here), but second-language English speakers tend to read and speak the language in absolutes. English is littered is local dialect misnomers which are perfectly acceptable and understood. This being a case in point.
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I have checked his statistics, he's scored 51 goals in 112 starts, including one wasteful season where he did only manage a goal every four games! Personally I'm not a big fan of his all round game, but if there's a wide forward with a certain snout for goal (discounting Ronaldo) it's Pedro.
I wont speak for everyone but when I read that post, I took it to mean that Pedro isnt much of a goal threat. No absolutes. The thing is, that in itself is very far off the mark. He's a fantastic goal threat from wide positions. If we want someone who'l make clever runs to goal and score while starting wide, he's pretty much one of the best players we could target.
My biggest concern though is whether we can actually use a player like him properly. It'l be absolutely scandalous if we get him and then play him as a proper wide player on the right. He'l be piss poor if we do that.
I think our manager is finally realizing that it’s pretty hard to have some influence on the game in those wide positions. Di Maria is probably the best in this role as his crossing is fantastic, you won’t find a better one in this regard probably. Pedro would be good acquisition if we play him in similar way to Kagawa’s lately (on either side). He has pace and an eye for a goal. If I recall correctly his work rate is quite good also. I think he would be an instant success here.
However, I have no idea if Barca would be willing to sell. He seems to be playing quite often. Anyway, much more realistic target than Reus IMO.
Only Ronaldo and Muller are better wide forwards. He's a better player than Sanchez but I feel Sanchez' directness pace and power would suit this league more.
He's underrated on here. Quick, can finish with both feet, hardworker, can work in a variety of systems and formations. He has it all.
He's underrated on here. Quick, can finish with both feet, hardworker, can work in a variety of systems and formations. He has it all.
Don't think Barcelona will be letting anyone leave with their transfer embargo.
He's a different player to Kagawa though. He'd be looking to get on the end of things rather than creating them which would be great with our current players. If used properly, he'd be complement the likes of Mata and Kagawa superbly from the right. Whether that's how Moyes intends to use him IF we get him, I dont know.
Isn’t it probable that this ban will be delayed? I think I heard that there’s a strong possibility. If that’s the case they might be willing to sacrifice one of their attackers to bring CB and GK? It’s not that they are loaded with money either I suppose, and they will have to solve all their problems at once, so I guess we might have a shot. It’s a wild guess though.
No doubt about that, I meant he would be playing narrow winger role. I agree with your post. Versatile player he is, very useful. I wouldn’t mind selling 2 wingers if we were to get him.
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It has nothing to do with language and everything to do with your impression of Pedro being tainted by his slump in form in the last year or so. When Barca were at their best he was a regular goalscorer (45 goals in 71 starts in 09/10 and 10/11). This 1-in-4 record you're talking about is actually his shots per goal ratio across that period - he's a very clinical finisher. This season after a tough start he's been back to normal with 16 goals in 30 starts.
Barca wont have a transfer ban.
Worst case scanario for them- they appeal and get the 'ban' on hold whilst appeal process goes ahead. They buy everyone they need in summer, then they strike a deal on september 2nd to have it reduced to one transfer window.
Its barca and Eufa for gods sake.
Worst case scanario for them- they appeal and get the 'ban' on hold whilst appeal process goes ahead. They buy everyone they need in summer, then they strike a deal on september 2nd to have it reduced to one transfer window.
Its barca and Eufa for gods sake.
Also you have to remember that style Barca play does not get the best out the likes of Pedro & Sanchez. Not 100% sure on Pedro's playing style, but Sanchez especially likes the ball to feet and to run at players, beating them for pace and being direct.
Due to Barca's tiki-taka system he hasn't been allowed to play his natural game and he has had to adapt hence why he struggled at first. Due to being such a talented player, he is now being more efficient and creating & scoring but if he was allowed to play his natural game instead of slowing down the game and completing x amount of passses, I'm sure we would see the old Sanchez who used to beat players for fun and hit the byline.
Also the season before he joined Barca, he played AM for Udinese so he would always be involved in their play and he was terrific that season both in terms of performance and goals & assists.
Due to Barca's tiki-taka system he hasn't been allowed to play his natural game and he has had to adapt hence why he struggled at first. Due to being such a talented player, he is now being more efficient and creating & scoring but if he was allowed to play his natural game instead of slowing down the game and completing x amount of passses, I'm sure we would see the old Sanchez who used to beat players for fun and hit the byline.
Also the season before he joined Barca, he played AM for Udinese so he would always be involved in their play and he was terrific that season both in terms of performance and goals & assists.
Pedro is outstanding, and one of the best we can get for that role. He'd get 20 goals and offset the need to play 2 strikers.
Just watch him play for Chile... with more freedom he is another player. So good.
Alexis would be perfect for us. In Italy and Spain the media place him in Juventus next season and that would be a shame... hopefully we have a say on that, ideally before the WC.
1. The ban is out of the window.
2. Barcelona are not sacrificing anyone. The current team has reached an end, and there will be a radical makeover this summer aimed at improving in several positions. According to Catalan newspapers, only six players are 100% certain to be in the Blaugrana colours next season. Messi, Neymar, Iniesta, Alba, Pique and Busquets. Xavi will also probably stay, but not even his name has been included in the "untouchables" list publicized by the Catalan press. Everybody else could potentially be sold to create extra funds for the strengthening of the team.
3. Two GKs and two CBs will surely be brought in this summer. Along with other positions as well.
4. In fact, FC Barcelona are indeed loaded with money. They are the 2nd richest club on the planet for the past 5 years or so. Revenues around 500m euros. The club president has revealed that a net spend in the vicinity of 120m euros has already been approved, plus whatever is accrued by the sales of players.
5. If you are willing to pay the going price for any of the players not in that six-name shortlist, then you will probably get them, unless you are outbid by some other club of course. I am sure you will be interested in at least one of Pedro/Alexis/Cesc.
Pedro would be a very good signing. Problem at Utd is that the '3' has too many #10s. Having someone who is direct/who will make runs provides great variety to this formation. Pedro would be a great foil in that formation, for any team.