This is their replacement for Palmer, who they’ve already accepted a bid from us for. It’s why we’ve been so quiet 
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Doesnt score enough goals and is a bit injury prone. That would be by big fear if we signed him. Very interesting to see how he does at Chelsea.
Good player but wouldn't want him for reasons above. On form and fitness i do like him but that's a big fee for a gamble of sorts
And that, my friend, is why they can make these deals. They sell well to dumb clubs that'll pay over the odds for their duds.
Yeah, good player. Best steer clear of injury prone players like him and Olmo though.
Sort of makes sense I guess. Good player, means they can move Palmer more central, and given he misses 20 games a year they can have Madueke or another one of their 78 wingers fill in.
Maybe I've become numb to the fact that half their signings seem utterly pointless, but for once I don't think this is an illogical move.
Probably would have been a decent signing for United if they could shift Antony somewhere in the event Amad doesn't take a step forward as most hope (or just as rotation).
Maybe I've become numb to the fact that half their signings seem utterly pointless, but for once I don't think this is an illogical move.
Probably would have been a decent signing for United if they could shift Antony somewhere in the event Amad doesn't take a step forward as most hope (or just as rotation).
Chelsea under Boehly are basically a parody of Chelsea under Roman.
so what happens to Mudryk and his 20 years contract?
For all the players Chelsea buy, they also sell quite alot, this year they already got almost £87m in sales without including Gallagher, so it will be well above £120m in sales this summer, last summer they got about £237m from sales, not sure how psr works but it definitely helps them spend.
Clique Boehly strikes again
Can someone explain how ffp rule doesnot apply to chelsea
It does. You might not understand the FFP rules.
He looks a very talented player with a nice skill set and easily passes the eye test.
But I can't help but think that 11 goals in 111 PL appearances probably does not merit a £50+ million price tag?
But I can't help but think that 11 goals in 111 PL appearances probably does not merit a £50+ million price tag?
Most Chelsea fans I know don’t care about transfers anymore. They’ve completely killed the dopamine hit you normally get with a new signing.
That’s the best description I’ve come across so far.
He played in a defensive counter attacking team most of his time in the PL.
Ah ffs, we're being left in the dust
I don’t think you should be worrying about Chelsea leaving anyone in the dust mate
He’s always injured, he might manage to stay fir enough for 10-15 starts but that’s about it. Or at least has been these last few years (I think he actually averages less starts for the past three seasons).
One of my favorite players to watch though. When fit, he’s amazing. Baller.
Edit. He averages 11 Premier League starts per season since joining the PL.
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As others have said, amazing player when fit, but rarely fit. Questionable end product too, but would think playing with better players will see his assist numbers go up at least.
The question is whether a club that currently has Sterling, Mudryk, Madueke, Palmer, Nkunku, Jackson, Broja, Deivid, Guiu, Angelo, Fofana and Lukaku on their books, with the impeding arrival of 35m Omorodion, really needs to spend 50m+ on another winger? They'll definitely sell or loan some of those players out, but at some point the whole purpose of signing these young talents, has to be to, you know, play them.
Chelsea's current first team squad, academy players promoted to first team squad in italics,:
GK (x6+2): Sanchez, Jorgensen, Petrovic, Arrizabalaga, Slonina, Pender, Bettinelli, Bergstrom,
LB (x4): Cucurella, Chilwell, Wiley, Veiga
RB (x2): James, Gusto
CB (x6+2+2) : Disasi, Adarabioyo, Badiashile, Colwill, Chalobah, Fofana, Acheampong, Humphreys, (Gilchrist & Anselimo out on loan)
CM (9+1) : Enzo, Ugochukwu, Chukwuemeka, Dewsbury-Hall, Caicedo, Casadei, Kellyman, Gallagher, Lavia, (Andrey Santos out on loan)
AM (6+2) : Sterling, Mudryk, Madueke, Palmer, Washington, Angelo, Anjorin, George
FW/STKR (6) : Jackson, Nkunku, Broja, Guiu, Fofana, Lukaku
They also have Kendry Paez and Estevao to come in future windows.
Even if you take out the u21's promoted to the first team squad, and discount the potential future first teamers out on loan, there are still 39 players in the squad. As soon as it looks like one player might go out (Gallagher) another is coming in (Neto). I am sure they will do deals for a few of their players, like Lukaku, and loan out several others, but I imagine they'll struggle to resist the temptation to bring more in. Either way, the squad will still be bloated, and there are loads of really good young players there, that won't see anywhere near enough minutes to continue their development.
The question is whether a club that currently has Sterling, Mudryk, Madueke, Palmer, Nkunku, Jackson, Broja, Deivid, Guiu, Angelo, Fofana and Lukaku on their books, with the impeding arrival of 35m Omorodion, really needs to spend 50m+ on another winger? They'll definitely sell or loan some of those players out, but at some point the whole purpose of signing these young talents, has to be to, you know, play them.
Chelsea's current first team squad, academy players promoted to first team squad in italics,:
GK (x6+2): Sanchez, Jorgensen, Petrovic, Arrizabalaga, Slonina, Pender, Bettinelli, Bergstrom,
LB (x4): Cucurella, Chilwell, Wiley, Veiga
RB (x2): James, Gusto
CB (x6+2+2) : Disasi, Adarabioyo, Badiashile, Colwill, Chalobah, Fofana, Acheampong, Humphreys, (Gilchrist & Anselimo out on loan)
CM (9+1) : Enzo, Ugochukwu, Chukwuemeka, Dewsbury-Hall, Caicedo, Casadei, Kellyman, Gallagher, Lavia, (Andrey Santos out on loan)
AM (6+2) : Sterling, Mudryk, Madueke, Palmer, Washington, Angelo, Anjorin, George
FW/STKR (6) : Jackson, Nkunku, Broja, Guiu, Fofana, Lukaku
They also have Kendry Paez and Estevao to come in future windows.
Even if you take out the u21's promoted to the first team squad, and discount the potential future first teamers out on loan, there are still 39 players in the squad. As soon as it looks like one player might go out (Gallagher) another is coming in (Neto). I am sure they will do deals for a few of their players, like Lukaku, and loan out several others, but I imagine they'll struggle to resist the temptation to bring more in. Either way, the squad will still be bloated, and there are loads of really good young players there, that won't see anywhere near enough minutes to continue their development.
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They can sell. United can't. That's the long and short of it.
Google it if you give a shit.
I can't be arsed to explain FFP and PSR to you if you can't be bothered to correctly post.
Anyone who cares to google can easily find out how Chelsea are well in compliance with FFP this window. If they had a worry, it ended on June 30th. But from here on, they are absolutely fine, and as long as they have cash on hand to pay the fees, they can sign players up the wazoo this summer. Which, unsurprisingly, they are doing.
Oh the irony...
Should be around £125m with Gallagher and still Lukaku, Chalobah and possibly Chilwell. Then Ziyech, Silva and Malang Sarr off the books. That'll be close to 1m/week in wages alone.
Incredible winger when he's fit. I've been in Neto threads from 2-3 years ago wanting us to sign him
Big question is his fitness
Big question is his fitness
Chelsea have spent so much and on so many players and when you see their squad you wouldnt imagine they've spent almost 1.5B in that squad. They been allowed to spend that monstruosity of money because of their 8-9 year contracts strategy and their amazing ability to sell players for great fees. For example this season they managed to get 150M for Maatsen, Lewis Hall, Hutchinson and Gallagher and last year they managed to get over 200M for Havertz, Mount, Kovaciv, Koulibaly, Pulisic, Mendy, Loftus-Cheek etc
They've made a great job at selling their players but a poor job buying it seems, lets see what happens first their new players sticking for good or they eventually strugling to recoup money from their sales. They've been allowed to keep spending because of their great sells but looking at the squad right now I dont think there's many players that they could actually sell for good money besides Palmer no one on that team it's currently worth what they paid for them, the longer this continue the deeper the hole is for chelsea they can't keep spending at this rythym so it if doesnt click they'll be in serious trouble in the short term.
They've made a great job at selling their players but a poor job buying it seems, lets see what happens first their new players sticking for good or they eventually strugling to recoup money from their sales. They've been allowed to keep spending because of their great sells but looking at the squad right now I dont think there's many players that they could actually sell for good money besides Palmer no one on that team it's currently worth what they paid for them, the longer this continue the deeper the hole is for chelsea they can't keep spending at this rythym so it if doesnt click they'll be in serious trouble in the short term.
He moves the needle more than most of the other signings that Chelsea have done in the last two years. Injury record aside, he’s a brilliant player that helps the team improve right now.
Sucks for Mudryk and Sterling though, but they have both had 1.5 to 2 years to show something consistent. Now the trouble begins when we have to go sell one of them, because no one is kicking the door down to sign either of them
Genuinely this is some strange narrative that gets way too much air time. Jackson, Chukwuemeka, Palmer, Nkunku, Paez, Estevao, Lavia, Caicedo, Madueke, Gusto. These are amazing transfers and then you have some that a bit more wait and see (but probably equally exciting talents) like Mudryk, Veiga, Omorodion, Guiu etc. I think Dewsbury-Hall and Neto are smart deals as well. The good purchases have far outweighed the bad under the sporting director duo.
Injuries exacerbated problems with the squad building over the last 3 seasons. Hopefully we'll see the real value of the squad on the pitch this season.
Half of them haven't even played.
Injury problems over 3 seasons aren't bad luck. They're either injury prone or the injury issues are being exaggerated to excuse the reality of the squad. Plenty of United fans do it too.
You would have a point if Chelsea knew what to do with most of these players, but they don't.
You mention Estevao and Páez. They'll both have turned 18 by the start of the 2025/26 season. Where is the real pathway for them into the first team, when you already have Palmer, Madueke, and have just added Neto as well?
Caicedo could've been an "amazing transfer" for around 60 million. Same with Enzo. You arguably paid as much for one of them that you should've for both combined. Then hired a coach in Poch who somehow couldn't make them work as a double pivot, which was impressively incompetent from him.
I think you should've gone for a better striker than Jackson too. Not sure his ceiling is that high, but he's a work in progress...but big clubs shouldn't buy those types of players if they don't have a very high ceiling. Maybe Omorodion will be that guy, though.
Mudryk. I'm in the minority who believes he's an excellent talent...but being in the Chelsea environment has led to him being ridiculed and not rated at all by the masses. Has he even improved by 1% since going to Chelsea? Has Madueke? Has Badiashile? And I'm probably forgetting others too.
Like I said, Chelsea doesn't know what to do with most of their young acquisitions. Stockpiling raw talent into a dysfunctional, straight up bad environment, and then most of them won't even get the sufficient game time in order to develop their game. And the ones that do, don't really get better, either.
Can’t knock them for a lack of ambition. But even if they sell well they’re surely spending far too much?
Don't know why Wolves didn't use the same rationale as Everton and demand 85mil for him using Antony and Mudryk as the price for a decent winger.
People look at the total outlay, but it is not the total. When these players leave in a few years time because they are not getting time on the pitch, their price was really only 2/5 (even if the sign for 7 years, only 5 count for FFP) of what was contracted…if it is a break even sell of their contract. When you keep moving these players, it is never the total spend for FFP, there is no way all them work out. All of these owners are baseball guys, it is exactly what they do with their baseball players. People keep comparing the total price spent vs price sold, but most of these buys will move on within 2 years. So most of the transfer price falls away from FFP and PSA.
It is risky as hell to build a squad this way, but for now, they are staying ahead of FFP and PSA.
so now we are buying the right players and just not using them right?
Couldn’t be that they were injured, primarily due to the fact that the medical and sports fitness staff was a shell of what it used to be before Eva left
Enzo got his hernias before Caicedo even got his feet wet on a new team. How would anyone have molded an elite double pivot for that. He. Needed injectinn in a just to run at all.
It took awhile, but our medical team has been rebuilt at a MUCH higher standard. Can only hope it helps.
The original poster had a point though: our bad purchases, when we had them were in the first Summer and Winter window, before the footballing structure was in place.
What does it matter if people think we paid too much for Enzo or Caicedo? If they are really good great. If Lavia reached the level we think he will, like Palmer, we will have UNDER paid for them. Madueke was cheap and is one of the strongest 1v1 attackers in the league. Gusto we got on Penny’s compared to his actual value. Even Cucurella is coming good.
If the CB’s and Gk settle, we can have an excellent team, with a base for competition, a low avg wage bill, and the means to stay under PSR and competitive.
Mentioning Paez and Esteveo … there comes a point in this “project” where it starts to look like a more traditional setup. The idea is we make top 4 this year, and have lots of different game minutes to hand out next season. Those players, plus guys like Josh A , Guiu, Santos, etc will be getting minutes and challenging established players for their spots…. While we bring in more prospects for the academy, build the multi club, and send out loanees.
We still have to pick up a difficult system and make it work though. And we still have to move on a group of players, not just for PSR, but so that training can be more focused and the cohesion better. And we need to keep people healthy..
We will see.
I mean there’s backing your club and there’s straight up blinkered, rose-tinted views. Or perhaps we just have different perceptions of what makes an ‘amazing transfer’.
Jackson is a raw talent with some potential but has been memefied to the hilt for some of his atrocious finishing. A potentially decent back-up striker but by no means outstanding first-team striker for a team with high aspirations. Nkunku was signed at a price regarded as value for money but has been beset with injury problems so can’t be deemed ‘amazing’ - the juries still out. Same goes for Lavia who isn’t even into double-digits for games played for Chelsea. Caicedo is a good player but £110m? That is an absurdly over-inflated fee - again does not represent value for money. Madueke is a good promising player who has shown good form in recent months but could still go either way given the ridiculous number of players on your books/competition - particularly with Neto arriving.
Chukwuemeka’s barely played and Estevao and Paez aren’t even through the door yet so are not ‘amazing transfers’.
Only Gusto and Palmer should be categorised as ‘amazing transfers’. You have brought in a ridiculous number of young talents that some will inevitably be huge hits while others will just be churned out for profit and barely play for the club. Surprised you’re not more numb to the business quite frankly.
As for the injury argument, United and Newcastle were saddled with injuries last season. Such a lame, victimised excuse - particularly when you’ve got enough players to go off to battle with.
Looks like we're already way out in front for the 24/25 injury sweepstake as well
That’s great for now if you can sell them for 5/7ths or 6/8ths of their original cost. If you tried to sell Caicedo or Fernandez this season, someone would have to pay £75 million for Chelsea to break even on PSR. No one is going to do that because the only reason Chelsea would sell these players is if they’re not good enough for a top team, clubs will know that.
Literally the only part of the strategy that is saving Chelsea from PSR issues is selling academy kids. Simple as that.