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I'm not sure Schweinsteiger and Carrick will work together at the base of the midfield. I think you'll see one of them alongside the energy of Schneiderlin or occasionally Ander.

Schweinsteiger may do a job as the front point of the midfield from time to time, but I think we'll see himself and Carrick share that deeper role, dictating play beside Schneiderlin more often than not.

Fair analysis... will be interesting to see how it all fits. My emphasis was on all the quality we have now... :drool:.
 
This is happening isn't it? Great value too!
 
Fair analysis... will be interesting to see how it all fits. My emphasis was on all the quality we have now... :drool:.

Yeah it's great being able to have these conversations about our midfield after the last 10 years or so!
 
I think it will be completed once ADM leaves, don't think they will take the chance of buying him incase the ADM deal falls through over the price.

Can't see the deal falling through because of that. They keep saying it will but at £22m for Pedro, we aren't suddenly going to say no to that because we won't get £45m for ADM
 
Yeah... Pedro's best was from the right. Besides that I would stick with Carrick but I am unsure whether Herrera or mata would work best for this group. In any event it is a sexy line-up...

--------Carrick--Scwienie-------
Pedro-------Herrera----Memphis
------------Rooney------------

With this as the subs...

----Scheiderlin----Fellaini-----
Pereira------Mata------Young
----------Januzaj------------

I think that would work for competing for CL, EPL, and FA.

Thoughts?

The striker options aren't good enough, but you've let the problem area off , defence and goal keeper
 
I like Mata a lot but if it's between him and potentially Pedro on that right hand side then there's only one winner. We've become quite dangerous down our left side with Young Shaw/Blind and have been attacking with pace and menace but when we attack down the right with Mata we have no pace and 90% of the time the play slows down and then gets switched to the centre and then to the left.

With Pedro and Darmian (who I've been very impressed with thus far) we would have pace and menace on both wings which I think will give Memphis and Rooney more space and opportunities to score.

That said, I'd like to see Memphis on the left, Herrera centre and Pedro (again, potentially) on the right with Sch and Sch behind them and obviously Rooney as the striker.

Shaw and Darmian as full backs and I can't bring myself to name centre backs because it's a joke that we haven't (yet) signed a truly great one which would be the final peice in what to be fair is already a much better and stronger looking jigsaw.
 
The striker options aren't good enough, but you've let the problem area off , defence and goal keeper

This is the Pedro thread... thought I might actually be different and try to stick to the topic ;).

In seriousness no argument. See my comments in the Otamendi thread :p!!
 
Going slightly off topic, but surely Mata is first choice No 10 next season?

You'd think so wouldn't you but atm it seems to be Depay, if he moves out to the wing which hopefully he will do and assuming if LvG always plays two of Schweinstegier, Carrick, and Schneiderlin, then it'll be fought out between Mata, Herrera, and Fellaini, which is surely overkill, personally I see a high profile sale coming up at some point.
 
You'd think so wouldn't you but atm it seems to be Depay, if he moves out to the wing which hopefully he will do and assuming if LvG always plays two of Schweinstegier, Carrick, and Schneiderlin, then it'll be fought out between Mata, Herrera, and Fellaini, which is surely overkill, personally I see a high profile sale coming up at some point.

Unless Fellaini is deployed as a Joe Jordan type striker, which is sometimes going to be worth doing. I don't see him as a number 10, and Schweinstegier, Carrick, Schneiderlin & Herrera all look miles ahead of him for the deeper positions.
 
Can't see the deal falling through because of that. They keep saying it will but at £22m for Pedro, we aren't suddenly going to say no to that because we won't get £45m for ADM
So why wait to sign him? For £22m we could have bought him weeks ago, I believe we are waiting until ADM leaves. If PSG don't offer enough money then he will stay at the club and we wont have a need for Pedro. If reports are true and PSG offered £28m to begin with then the deal could fall through if a suitable fee isn't agreed, £50m should be a good deal for both clubs.
 
Di Maria is like 99% gone, I would be amazed if he played for us next season.

I've said it before but I think we haven't signed Pedro yet because we've been trying for someone better.
 
Surely it makes more sense to have the replacement in place before we sign off on letting a player go? I know the Beckham-Ronaldinho situation turned out very bloody well for us with hindsight, but at the time it wasn't looking great. We'd sold Becks, then we turn around to see his successor go elsewhere. 22m is nothing for us if Di Maria decides he loves rain after all, and having 2 top players in the squad is better than having neither of them.
 
I don't see how we can possibly keep Di Maria now, he was poor last season but imagine how bad he'd be now after the shenanigans of this summer, no way are we keeping him now and rightly so.
 
Seems like Van Gaal pulled his old name-drop trick:

Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal has suggested that the club need to sign a player in the mould of Barcelona forward Pedro.

The Spain international, who has a £22 million release clause in his contract at the Camp Nou, is a target for United.

Van Gaal believes the Old Trafford club need more attacking options if they are to win the Premier League.

He told The Sun: "Barcelona have the speed of Neymar and [Lionel] Messi -- and they have Pedro behind them. We have to compete with that.

"We can win the title if we can buy players with speed and creativity. We have to improve our selection in that way.

"Bayern Munich have [Franck] Ribery and [Arjen] Robben. After that they can change with [Thomas] Muller and they also had [Xherdan] Shaqiri at times.

"They are our competitors. Chelsea have [Eden] Hazard, Willian, Oscar -- that is speed and creativity."

United have parted company with two forwards this summer, with Van Gaal opting not to buy on-loan Radamel Falcao and selling Robin van Persie to Fenerbahce.

In addition, they could lose record buy Angel Di Maria with Paris Saint-Germain saying they are "close" to signing the £59.7 million winger.

United's only attacking signing so far this summer has been £25 million Netherlands international Memphis Depay.

Pedro scored 11 goals for Barcelona last season but lost his place in their strongest side after the arrival of Luis Suarez.

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/2545182/van-gaal-hints-that-manchester-united-need-to-sign-pedro?
 
Di Maria is like 99% gone, I would be amazed if he played for us next season.

I've said it before but I think we haven't signed Pedro yet because we've been trying for someone better.

By the sound of his comments recently, van Gaal might be looking for two attackers with pace, Pedro plus one more.
 
Does anyone else think Pedro's going to come in and play on the right? Or do people think he'll replace Young in the starting line-up?

I'd quite like to see Pedro right, Memphis left, Mata central with two of Carrick/BFS/Schneid behind him.
 
Does anyone else think Pedro's going to come in and play on the right? Or do people think he'll replace Young in the starting line-up?

I'd quite like to see Pedro right, Memphis left, Mata central with two of Carrick/BFS/Schneid behind him.

Hopefully we do see Mata central.

---Any 2 of whoever-
--------Mata----------
Pedro----------Memphis
-------Rooney----------

Is a top forward line.
 
Does anyone else think Pedro's going to come in and play on the right? Or do people think he'll replace Young in the starting line-up?

I'd quite like to see Pedro right, Memphis left, Mata central with two of Carrick/BFS/Schneid behind him.
You forgot Herrera.
 
Does anyone else think Pedro's going to come in and play on the right? Or do people think he'll replace Young in the starting line-up?

I'd quite like to see Pedro right, Memphis left, Mata central with two of Carrick/BFS/Schneid behind him.

That would be so sweet a lineup. We're really missing that pace combined with some danger on the right, as we have Mata and Valencia there but they only have one of those attributes mentioned each. Memphis will have that on the left, so two flanks covered would be back to the days of Ronaldo and Nani :drool:
 
So why wait to sign him? For £22m we could have bought him weeks ago, I believe we are waiting until ADM leaves. If PSG don't offer enough money then he will stay at the club and we wont have a need for Pedro. If reports are true and PSG offered £28m to begin with then the deal could fall through if a suitable fee isn't agreed, £50m should be a good deal for good deal for both clubs.
I certainly wouldn't pay 50m going off last seasons form .
 
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I certainly wouldn't pay 50m going off last seasons form .
PSG know that class is permanent and form is temporary. He was United top assister last season while not playing every game, that's what PSG are paying for and they know it. They have money to burn as shown by splurging £50m on Luiz, ADM is a much more valuable player regardless of form from last season.
 
Duncan Castles on the deal:

Manchester United are poised to complete both the sale of Angel Di Maria to Paris Saint-Germain and the purchase of Pedro from Barcelona this week. A fee of €65million (£45.7m) has been agreed for Argentina international Di Maria, while Spain forward Pedro will cost United an initial €26m.

United's executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward is scheduled to fly to Barcelona early this week to tie up Pedro's transfer. Woodward has successfully managed to avoid meeting Pedro's recently reduced €30m release clause by negotiating bonus payments of €6m, albeit by raising the potential value of the deal to £22.5m.

It is still regarded by industry insiders as potentially the best transaction of Woodward's 25 months as United's chief executive. Pedro, who turned 28 last week, has averaged over 50 appearances a season for Barca over the last six seasons, contributing to six Liga titles, three Champions League and two FIFA Club World Cups. Having also played 51 times for Spain, winning both the World Cup and European Championship, he fits the profile of proven winner requested by Louis van Gaal in this window.

Barca's decision to sell was partly enforced by Pedro's reluctance to spend a second campaign waiting in line behind Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez and Neymar for playing time. The Catalan club are also keen to raise revenue for new player registrations once their FIFA transfer ban is lifted in January.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/duncan-castles/pedro-in-di-maria-out/10153483647528057
 
One problem I have with this transfer is that he plays in the same position Depay favours. If Depay is supposed to continue in the second striker spot it won't be a problem but I'm hoping LVG will soon see sense on that one, and by then it will be.

The ideal formation would then look like this

Schmidfield

Herrera/Mata

Pedro/Depay - Rooney - Pedro/Depay

But neither Pedro nor Depay are nearly as effective from the right.

Nope Pedro and Depay dont play same positions.
 
By the sound of his comments recently, van Gaal might be looking for two attackers with pace, Pedro plus one more.
This.

I think the plan is Pedo + 1 coming in, with Di Moania leaving.

Whether that happens or not is yet to be seen. Think we are looking for top players and they are difficult to sign.
 
It will be Pedro and most likely a striker. Even though I would prefer a centre back.
 
So with those figures (if they are true and the deals go through) then we've got Memphis, Darmian, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger and Pedro. For Van Persie, Di Maria, Nani and about £40M. Thats pretty good business if you ask me.
 
I'm kinda warming up to Pedro, at first didn't rate him at all but it is now obvious he has real quality and coupled with his hard work he will be a success.
 
Does anyone else think Pedro's going to come in and play on the right? Or do people think he'll replace Young in the starting line-up?

I'd quite like to see Pedro right, Memphis left, Mata central with two of Carrick/BFS/Schneid behind him.
I'm 100% sure he will play on the right. The fact that LvG still plays Mata on the right, despite we switched to 4-4-2 means he doesn't rate him that high in central position. Pedro will definitely take his place as he is primarily a right winger. I expect Young to start most games on the left.
 
I'm kinda warming up to Pedro, at first didn't rate him at all but it is now obvious he has real quality and coupled with his hard work he will be a success.

Because we're signing him? You from RAWK? He'll be world class in a couple of hours. ;)
 
I'm kinda warming up to Pedro, at first didn't rate him at all but it is now obvious he has real quality and coupled with his hard work he will be a success.

Was always up for this myself, especially at the quoted prices. The only possible downside is his age, but you'd have to be clutching at straws to find even that an issue. He turned 28 this week, and a player of his calibre for under 20m at his peak is a snip. Even more so when you consider that in addition to much needed pace, he will bring goals. In the last 6 seasons, the absolute worst Pedro has chipped in with is 10. He's usually been hitting 20 or there abouts, but when was the last time we had even 10 goals from the wing?
 
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