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where will Pedro go?

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shivab said:
firstly thank you for arguing like a normal person. it seems like a rarity around here.
secondly, i dont think pedro would want to move somewhere only to be on the bench again.
thirdly, bale griezmann are the kind players we should be looking to buy. pedro would be a stop gap signing
its not like we have little cash available. so why not spend it on a top player, instead of spending it on someone who 'might' start.
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To the second point, yes I somewhat agree with that. We should only sign him with the mutual understanding that he might not be a regular starter. Which brings into question his motives for leaving Barcelona (or perhaps he's being forced out ?). If he genuinely wants to leave Barcelona, and will be a supportive team-mate, and not pout on the bench, then I do think he would be a good addition to the squad. Good enough for a £22 million fee ? Dunno, but if Woodward's willing to spend that amount, I'm not going to complain after the Great muppet famine during the reign of Gill.

To the third and fourth, look, I don't think any sane United fan would want to sgn Pedro if we could sign Bale, Reus or Griezmann instead. But the likelihood of signing that caliber of player isn't high this summer at the very least (as has been pointed out by @Revan and @JPRouve in the thread).

Bale is Fiorentino's pet project, and he is seemingly enamoured with a player who was signed during his tenure. I don't think he will be allowed to leave Madrid, especially at a time when Perez is facing a lot of heat in Spain, and the relationships with United are strained over our stance in the whole De Gea/ Ramos situation. Reus penned a new deal at Dortmund in a show of faith, even though he could have joined a club of his choice. He's also very unlikely to leave when his hometown club is in the doldrums. Griezmann ? I guess we could activate his clause, but will he be willing to leave Atletico after just one season, and risk a starting role with the Euros coming up ?

Apart from those three, there might not be a lot of better and proven options than Pedro available in the market. Lots of potential tagged players that may or may not work out, so that does make me a bit wary at a time when United is looking to consolidate.
 
JPRouve said:
We do not have the choice between Griezmann, Bale, Reus and Pedro. Griezmann is the only one available and it is for 65m€.
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Reus is gettable as well. We even have the money to sign Greizmann if we really want him. In fact we should sign him whether or not we sell di maria imo. the point is in no scenario would anyone want pedro. so why buy him? becuase hes cheap and available? i dont think thats a good enough reason
 
FromTheBench said:
The question for me is why do we even need a isn't bad option if we can't get the great options ? Situation isn't that desperate on the wings atleast.
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Your right, its far from desperate. But I would rather bring in Pedro at this rate than nobody at all. Even though Di maria had an inconsitent year, losing a player of that quality would hurt hence a wing signing. Di Maria being established world class is one of the primary reasons I do not want to sell him this summer. There isn't a true world class winger who is realistically available.
 
JPRouve said:
They were both at the same level.
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Nah Sanchez was a level above Pedro even in that season. And overall he has always been.

Maybe for the role Barca wanted them to play both were closer but in terms of individual play Sanchez is easily a class or more above.
 
shivab said:
Yeah AM selling griezmann is a long shot, but getting Reus isnt. Reus is as realistic as pedro. he would cost significantly more though. but that shouldnt matter to us
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We know how much of a tranfer muppet Ed is. We also know that LvG is familiar with the best talent in Bundesliga from when he was there. My percpetion is, if Reus was truly attainable, and it meant just matching that new release clause, he would've left by now.
 
Invictus said:
To the second point, yes I somewhat agree with that. We should only sign him with the mutual understanding that he might not be a regular starter. Which brings into question his motives for leaving Barcelona (or perhaps he's being forced out ?). If he genuinely wants to leave Barcelona, and will be a supportive team-mate, and not pout on the bench, then I do think he would be a good addition to the squad. Good enough for a £22 million fee ? Dunno, but if Woodward's willing to spend that amount, I'm not going to complain after the Great muppet famine during the reign of Gill.

To the third and fourth, look, I don't think any sane United fan would want to sgn Pedro if we could sign Bale, Reus or Griezmann instead. But the likelihood of signing that caliber of player isn't high this summer at the very least (as has been pointed out by @Revan and @JPRouve in the thread).

Bale is Fiorentino's pet project, and he is seemingly enamoured with a player who was signed during his tenure. I don't think he will be allowed to leave Madrid, especially at a time when Perez is facing a lot of heat in Spain, and the relationships with United are strained over our stance in the whole De Gea/ Ramos situation. Reus penned a new deal at Dortmund in a show of faith, even though he could have joined a club of his choice. He's also very unlikely to leave when his hometown club is in the doldrums. Griezmann ? I guess we could activate his clause, but will he be willing to leave Atletico after just one season, and risk a starting role with the Euros coming up ?

Apart from those three, there might not be a lot of better and proven options than Pedro available in the market. Lots of potential tagged players that may or may not work out, so that does make me a bit wary at a time when United is looking to consolidate.
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i think barca want to keep him. thats what enrique has said to the press. its just the player that wants to leave because of the lack of game time. thats why i dont think pedro will move to a club that cant offer him a starting 11 position.

You correctly point out that bale is never going to happen this summer and that reus just signed a contract. but every player has a price. and i feel reus and griezmann are gettable targets, we have the money so then its just a matter of convincing the player.

i also agree that besides that there arent many proven players out there apart from pedro. Im not opposed to his signing if we are unable to get the aforementioned players.
 
Utd7 said:
We know how much of a tranfer muppet Ed is. We also know that LvG is familiar with the best talent in Bundesliga from when he was there. My percpetion is, if Reus was truly attainable, and it meant just matching that new release clause, he would've left by now.
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yeah maybe you are right. but griezmann has a release clause too. have we not tried signing these players and have just gone straight to singing pedro (if reports are to be trusted). i would be opposed to that. if we tried and failed to convince reus/griezmann to sign for us then signing pedro isnt a bad idea.
 
It's hard to shake the feeling that we'd just be bringing in a player that is going down the other side of the hill and who is not going to get us back to the top as we'll have a starting spot taken up by a player who is decent, but nothing more. If Di Maria goes we should be in for a player who is already good but has not peaked.
 
Devil may care said:
It's hard to shake the feeling that we'd just be bringing in a player that is going down the other side of the hill and who is not going to get us back to the top as we'll have a starting spot taken up by a player who is decent, but nothing more. If Di Maria goes we should be in for a player who is already good but has not peaked.
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Pedro is only 27, some would say he is entering his peak now and yet he's being denied chances because Barces front 3 are all pretty much undropable. He could flourish in a team like ours given he has the right target man to play off, though thats not to say i don't think him and Rooney wouldn't link up well.
 
iammemphis said:
Pedro is only 27, some would say he is entering his peak now and yet he's being denied chances because Barces front 3 are all pretty much undropable. He could flourish in a team like ours given he has the right target man to play off, though thats not to say i don't think him and Rooney wouldn't link up well.
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He's actually 28 in a week or so, but what I meant was his form receded 2 years ago, he has regressed since then so we'd be getting seconds, which would be fine if he was just a squad addition, but really we need a top RWF to go with Memphis on the left.
 
Can't see him as anything more than a stopgap until a world class wide player becomes available. Still if Di Maria asks to leave he could be a useful addition for the upcoming season at least.
 
There seems to be too many leaks for it to be real, which doesn't make sense. I reckon it's a smokescreen.
 
Not feeling it. If he was dirt cheap, I'd get it but if he's the one we bring in to 'replace' Di Maria...I wouldn't be overly pleased. Would rather see us take the risk on Januzaj starting a lot more games as opposed to seeing Pedro.

Doesn't strike me as someone who will replicate or up his game when if he leaves Barcelona. Isn't half as restricted in his natural game as were the likes of Fabregas, Sanchez and Ibrahimovic. Not being able to displace Neymar, Messi or Suarez is fair enough, but he come across as someone who benefits from being part of the furniture over there.
 
Would get my approval as I believe it would be a very astute signing. Pedro has sublime talent, very quick, two footed .. beats players for fun combined with great movement and finishing ability. He has suffered having to compete with some top top names but with some breathing space to become a star in his own right he might rediscover that goalscoring touch which he was renowned for when he first broke through.

I think from his perspective it would be a good move as LvG will treat him with great respect and give him a sense of responsibility whereas at Chelsea he would remain a bit part player and a slave to the system. A player of Pedros talent needs to be unleashed and given some confidence.. he has a lot going for him.
 
Replacing Di Maria with Pedro would be pretty underwhelming. And thats not meant as an insult to Pedro, its just that Di Maria is a class above when on form.
 
Why do you guys even compare Di Maria and Pedro? 1 is a midfielder while other is a winger. The thing is Di Maria will not fit in an LVG team. Any winger will improve your team than Di Maria on wings....
 
Is this just Clueless Jamie Jackson or has someone reputable reported this?
 
I'm all for this if Di Maria goes. Would fit the Van Gaal system perfectly and easily comparable to Sanchez who worked out well for Arsenal.
 
Hemil said:
Why do you guys even compare Di Maria and Pedro? 1 is a midfielder while other is a winger. The thing is Di Maria will not fit in an LVG team. Any winger will improve your team than Di Maria on wings....
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If people are going to be pedantic and not acknowledge that for the majority of his European career, he's played comfortably on the wings...then I'll counter that and say Pedro is a wide-forward and not a traditional winger.
 
Hemil said:
The thing is Di Maria will not fit in an LVG team.
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Someone should've told LVG this before he - LVG - brought him in. After having hailed him as an example of the sort of player we needed - at that. Must've been drunk, I guess.
 
Hemil said:
Why do you guys even compare Di Maria and Pedro? 1 is a midfielder while other is a winger. The thing is Di Maria will not fit in an LVG team. Any winger will improve your team than Di Maria on wings....
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:confused:
 
Has the English press actually got anything right for our transfer dealings this summer. I hope they are wrong again
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Someone should've told LVG this before he - LVG - brought him in. After having hailed him as an example of the sort of player we needed - at that. Must've been drunk, I guess.
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Yeah it's strange how many people keep saying Di Maria can't be a part of a Van Gaal team when he was the one who bought him. Surely he knew what he was buying and did extensive research on the guy he bought for £60m
 
Wouldn't mind getting Pedro especially since it's looking more and more likely that ADM will leave. Mata can move inside and compete with Herrera for an attacking midfielder spot. That being said, how will this affect our chances for picking up another striker? Although Pedro's transfer fee of £22 million seems relatively reasonable, will Woody still spring for both a top defender and striker? My main concern of bringing in Pedro would be that it'd be at the expense of bringing in a quality striker (and yes I know, the options are limited).
 
Would like him to stay, but it's hard to begrudge him playing time at United or Chelsea. Doesn't have the cachet of Di Maria, but I think he's a reliable player. Only problem from our side, is we can't immediately replace him from outside. We'd have to wait until January. Would ensure Munir stays instead of going on loan if he leaves.
 
Attila said:
Yeah it's strange how many people keep saying Di Maria can't be a part of a Van Gaal team when he was the one who bought him. Surely he knew what he was buying and did extensive research on the guy he bought for £60m
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I think it was more to do with the fact that after falling so behind in the champions league spots; it was a big deal to get last champions league's best player. Same goes for falcao; and even though both players were not an out and out success; they have aided us back to where we belong.
 
He's not the top player we would need if Di Maria was off, but he's a very good football. Would be a good addition to any team. Technically very good, intelligent, hard working.
 
Mitchell Nicholas said:
Would like him to stay, but it's hard to begrudge him playing time at United or Chelsea. Doesn't have the cachet of Di Maria, but I think he's a reliable player. Only problem from our side, is we can't immediately replace him from outside. We'd have to wait until January. Would ensure Munir stays instead of going on loan if he leaves.
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How well do you reckon he would fit us?
 
IgnorantLobster said:
How well do you reckon he would fit us?
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Probably more suited to playing on the left of a front three, but wouldn't look out of place on the right of a front three. He'd be a better fit than Di Maria, who I think is more suited to a counter attacking system for more than half the price. My one worry would be how he'd cope with the physicality of the Premier League.
 
Pedro is the ideal type of player for the current United squad. A goal scoring right winger who is comfortable in a possession based style is exactly what United need.

The only issue is whether he's good enough. I think he's the type of player who would perform well and do a good job but a team like United would always think they could get someone better.
 
Mitchell Nicholas said:
Probably more suited to playing on the left of a front three, but wouldn't look out of place on the right of a front three. He'd be a better fit than Di Maria, who I think is more suited to a counter attacking system for more than half the price. My one worry would be how he'd cope with the physicality of the Premier League.
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Yeah, I agree about Di Maria. Obviously he's well suited to a possession style after playing for Barca, hopefully would be a nice fit.
 
Doubt we're seriously interested, probably driving up the price like we did for Firmino and Benteke.
 
Don't want him at all. Very overrated player due to him fitting in perfectly in that barca team.
 
Am I missing something here?

He's an average player. Not sure why we'd be in for him.
 
Utd7 said:
We know how much of a tranfer muppet Ed is. We also know that LvG is familiar with the best talent in Bundesliga from when he was there. My percpetion is, if Reus was truly attainable, and it meant just matching that new release clause, he would've left by now.
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Hasn't got a new release clause.
 
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