I am still confused as to why LVG went for DI Maria and not Sanchez last summer if he wanted Wing forward and wide attacker approach ?
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This is what I was saying in the Götze thread. You guys are absolutely stacked in AM. Pedro wouldn't start for you guys and it would make no sense for him to trade one bench for another.
Is he? Don't think he's near that level.
Young, Depay, Mata or Januzaj aren't a match for Pedro. Di Maria isn't as consistent as Pedro, Di Maria is sometimes world class that's true but Pedro is almost always good and he is an intelligent player with great vision and understanding of the game.
If it wasn't for his last season at Madrid, Di Maria would never be rated a lot higher than Pedro.
Depay/Pedro - Herrera/Januzaj - Mata/Young
Schweinsteiger/Blind - Carrick/Schneiderlin
Works for me..Schweinsteiger/Blind - Carrick/Schneiderlin
This. He's decent, but nothing special. Really hope this isn't true.
Some of you obviously don't watch Pedro play. He's not good enough to start for us. We don't need a squad player, we need a quality winger, which he is not.
i think hes a good player and a good finisher. Clearly non of us want di maria to leave. but, if he truly wants to go i wouldn't mid bringing in pedro as a replacement.
Who is then (please mention only realistic signings)?
You are overrating Pedro for me or underrating the other players. For example i'd have taken Sanchez over Pedro easily last summer even.
He is a intelligent player, quick and good finisher but really not a tier 1 or 2 player.
Did I say that he was better than Sanchez? Sanchez is a top player like Di Maria and Pedro is one notch below them but he is still a very good player and he is a better winger than anything we have bar Di Maria.
Off the top of my head; Bale, Griezmann, Reus, Felipe Anderson.
Pedro is really not as good as some of you seem to think he is despite his stats stating otherwise (even though a lot of them goals are against nothing teams). His main attributes are his pace and his finishing. Besides that, he's average at everything else. We need to aim a little better than Pedro if we're getting rid of Di Maria.
Angel Di Maria?
Felipe Anderson, really?
I personally don't think he's a substantial improvement over say Mata and another. (Though another includes 2 youngsters or Young who can be not 100% reliable and/or have something to prove.)
Mata is more creative while he is more pacy and a goalscoring threat which would put the creative burden back more on the midfield which is what Barca's midfield + Messi did spectacularly well for him.
Yeah, shouldn't have really mentioned him as I can't say I've watched him personally but my Italian friend raves about him as if he's the next big thing. I'd rather pay for potential than a player like Pedro who isn't even guaranteed to be a success for us. I've said it before but he's essentially the Spanish Walcott.
Smashley's Young backup?Angel Di Maria?
I would say that Di Maria at his best is better than Pedro at his best, although it is quite close. Di Maria hasn't been at his best last year and Pedro hasn't been for like three years though (although on these three years he was quite better than Di Maria was last season).
Bale and Reus not available. Felipe Anderson, nice joke!
Griezmann is definitely better than Pedro though (around the same level as Pedro in 2009-2011).
We are fine in the wide areas as long as the players are used properly and Di Maria stays. And Di Maria will stay if the club and LVG wants him to stay.
Even if he leaves it's not a desperate situation that let's sign the most readymade player on paper for the sake of it.
And even if we have to would prefer going all out on Reus or a younger player like Griezman, Isco, Goetze etc.. (Felipe Anderson is a more gettable option if we want another proper wide player.) Or How about asking PSG for Lucas Moura in exchange?
If hes isnt good enough for barca he isnt good enough for us. we should spend on top quality players. period
I'm no big AdM fan but if we're replacing him with Pedro I'd be very disappointed. Better winger than Young or Valencia but I'd rather see Mata play and give Depay more game time. Hard to get excited about this one though.
Yeah, hence the sad face. In all seriousness though, I've followed Griezmann for a while now, he would be perfect. Quality player with room to improve, similar signing to Depay.
He's producing his best form i.e last season as a forward/striker too which would probably cover both positions if needed.
I forgot us winning the treble last season, or winning three UCL in the last 6 years or having Messi, Neymar and Suarez in our attack.
It is the same bullshit argument that some people were saying when we were going for Alcantara.
Pedro was excellent for Pep's Barca. He was their most consistent player for them.
Like Muller, he doesn't get the credit he deserves because he isn't the best at anything, but as a total package he is great. Not as good as Muller, obviously but he still was a fantastic player for Barca on a few seasons and a decent player for them since then.
People who don't rate him need to watch Barcelona more. He is a great finisher and has nice touch. Would buy him in an instant for 22 million. Sad that Di Maria likely goes but Pedro will score close to 15 goals a season from the wing.
@Señor Griezmann plays on the left, we need someone on the right wing.
Does that rule apply to Di Maria?
Most ludicrous thing I've read all day.
alcantra is a quality player. you have to be blind not to see that. pedro is average you have to blind not to see that
Are you taking the piss?
di maria was sold due to contract disputes. might want to look that up.
I think Griezmann has more about him also, but given that he was transferred just last season to Atletico for €30Mn according to wiki, he'd probably cost us an absolute fortune now.
I recall reading last summer than Sanchez wanted CL football hence him being linked to Arsenal and Liverpool. You can thank Moyesy for us missing out.
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And Barcelona aren't selling Pedro, he just happened to have an affordable clause, you might want to look that up.
Dont be absurd. Bayern bought Robben when he was no longer wanted by Madrid to make room for Ronaldo. Look how that investment turned out for them.
its easier to make darting runs and getting the ball at your feet when you have messi xavi and iniesta feeding you . pedro is a very good finisher and has decent movement. thats it. there are many player out there who are much better than him and would fit well on our right wing.
absurd? robben and an entire contingent of dutch players being shipped out due to a regime change at a circus of a club is different from pedro being sold. i think its you being absurd. not me.
I guess Guardiola and Enrique are blind then.
Pedro was integral to Barca's success in the beginning of this decade. He was one of the most consistent players I've ever seen and IIRC has the record on scoring in consecutive matches (he scored in 8 or so games in a row). With 0.49 goals per 90 minutes over his career (more than 300 matches) he has one of the best goalscoring stats from non-striker players. He scored 25.9% of his shots and around 64% of the shots around the box. He is probably the most efficient player right there.
i know this. im just saying we shouldnt buy him just because hes cheap and there for the taking. might want to check my earlier posts.
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