Nope. It's cos he hasn't been that good since 2011.
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Nope. It's cos he hasn't been that good since 2011.
Just like how Rawk thinks despite having won most trophies in the Premier League United was somehow being just ok.
http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transf...t-for-talks-with-barcelona-for-pedro-transfer
Manchester United will meet with representatives of both Barcelona and winger Pedro in the United States over the weekend, as they hope to complete a deal for the 27-year-old by the middle of next week, sources have told ESPN FC.
The two clubs face each other in a preseason friendly on Saturday in San Francisco, and that could lead to a move for the winger being done in the space of a few days.
Barcelona's public statements over the past week have indicated that they are resigned to losing Pedro, who wants more regular first-team football, despite manager Luis Enrique's insistence that the 27-year-old stay as a back-up to their stellar attacking trident of Leo Messi, Neymar and Luis Suarez.
His United counterpart Louis van Gaal sees Pedro as the ideal type of wide-player in his system, despite some slight reservations about the player's pace.
The Barcelona forward will likely end up as a direct replacement for Angel Di Maria, whose exit seems increasingly likely. All of those who work around the Argentina insist he will not be a Manchester United player by the end of this transfer window, and move to Paris Saint-Germain, despite what have been strained negotiations between the two clubs.
The main sticking point has been over valuation and any potential payment structure, although there is a willingness on both sides to eventually do the deal.
The feeling at Old Trafford is that Di Maria will never really settle at the club, and they can't take the risk on another disappointing season. The Argentine national team management reportedly felt during the Copa America that Van Gaal had "destroyed" Di Maria's "football rhythm," and sources say he has very little relationship with Van Gaal.
Beyond that, United also intend to sign a central defender and a forward this summer, although both could go right until the end of the window.
As Van Gaal has publicly stated, the primary defensive target is Real Madrid's Sergio Ramos, and United's current position is that the only way that David De Gea will go to the Bernabeu -- as has long been anticipated -- is if the central defender goes the other way.
The majority of officials at Old Trafford feel that the Spanish club won't ultimately allow Ramos to leave, although the defender's camp are insistent that a deal is possible.
United's continued interest in the 29-year-old is then double-fold, both to maintain a strong stance in the De Gea situation, but also because there may yet be a genuine possibility that Ramos leaves the Bernabeu. As a consequence, it is unlikely that United will move for any other centre-half until the situation with Real is resolved.
Van Gaal has not made a final decision on which forwards to pursue, either, but is insistent the club must sign one before the window ends. Despite obvious interest in stars like Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Cristiano Ronaldo, if such moves suddenly became possible, neither is currently seen as realistic.
The two clubs face each other in a preseason friendly on Saturday in San Francisco, and that could lead to a move for the winger being done in the space of a few days.
Barcelona's public statements over the past week have indicated that they are resigned to losing Pedro, who wants more regular first-team football, despite manager Luis Enrique's insistence that the 27-year-old stay as a back-up to their stellar attacking trident of Leo Messi, Neymar and Luis Suarez.
His United counterpart Louis van Gaal sees Pedro as the ideal type of wide-player in his system, despite some slight reservations about the player's pace.
The Barcelona forward will likely end up as a direct replacement for Angel Di Maria, whose exit seems increasingly likely. All of those who work around the Argentina insist he will not be a Manchester United player by the end of this transfer window, and move to Paris Saint-Germain, despite what have been strained negotiations between the two clubs.
The main sticking point has been over valuation and any potential payment structure, although there is a willingness on both sides to eventually do the deal.
The feeling at Old Trafford is that Di Maria will never really settle at the club, and they can't take the risk on another disappointing season. The Argentine national team management reportedly felt during the Copa America that Van Gaal had "destroyed" Di Maria's "football rhythm," and sources say he has very little relationship with Van Gaal.
Beyond that, United also intend to sign a central defender and a forward this summer, although both could go right until the end of the window.
As Van Gaal has publicly stated, the primary defensive target is Real Madrid's Sergio Ramos, and United's current position is that the only way that David De Gea will go to the Bernabeu -- as has long been anticipated -- is if the central defender goes the other way.
The majority of officials at Old Trafford feel that the Spanish club won't ultimately allow Ramos to leave, although the defender's camp are insistent that a deal is possible.
United's continued interest in the 29-year-old is then double-fold, both to maintain a strong stance in the De Gea situation, but also because there may yet be a genuine possibility that Ramos leaves the Bernabeu. As a consequence, it is unlikely that United will move for any other centre-half until the situation with Real is resolved.
Van Gaal has not made a final decision on which forwards to pursue, either, but is insistent the club must sign one before the window ends. Despite obvious interest in stars like Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Cristiano Ronaldo, if such moves suddenly became possible, neither is currently seen as realistic.
Means very little.
If its true I dont expect to see Pedro playing in the game at all.
Nice answer, you fecking halfwit.
Bye bye
If you aren't PL proven you might as well be dead.
A look beyond his Wikipedia stats and towards his football over the last years tells you everyone with functional eye that calling him "bang average" is either ignorant or doesn't understand football.
Factually incorrect, as usual. He was starting for Barcelona during their most dominant phase.
Pretty much.
If we sign him I'll be really thrilled, always thought highly of him.
So did Victor Valdes, but the Caf thinks he's shite.
Victor Valdes has been on the sideline for awhile after big injuries. Pedro was second choice behind Neymar in their treble winning season. They're in different places in their careers. And Valdes' attitude wasn't right either.
The Caf had made its mind up over Vadle's way before before we found out about his shitty attitude. Pedro's 27 he should be at his peak, but he's not, if Barcelona value him so highly, they wouldn't be prepared to drop his release clause and let him go.
They are not letting him go because they want to sell him. They are respecting his wishes. It's similar to chelsea letting cech go for 10m.
You honestly believe that?
All comments from bartomeu Enrique and players like busquets point to that. Barcelona maybe aren't trying too hard(like us trying for de gea) probably because they have MSN and now turan too but I think they want him to stay.
That's because Valdes is terrible.
Constantly makes stupid errors and conceded a lot of goals despite opposition teams only having 2 or 3 shots a game
Barcelona sold Sanchez. It didn't make him average. That's reasoning holds no water.
You do realise they have Neymar and Messi in wide positions?
Big red flag on this article is our supposed reservations about Pedro's pace.
Why not? Fergie was willing to allow Ole to go to Spurs back in the day as he'd been a great servant to the club and he understood if wanted to be a guaranteed starter elsewhere.
Agreed - all the evidence is that they want him to stay but will respect his desire to play first team football.
He was on his last year of his contract in 2014 but renewed under the agreement that he would have a low buyout clause.
If he's an integral part of the squad and coming into his peak like this thread suggests, why are they letting him go at such a bargain price, don't they have a transfer ban? I doubt it's because they're just respecting his wishes.
Valdes wasn't terrible. Personally don't rate him that highly either but there is a middle ground between world class and terrible. Terrible players don't get a starting spot for clubs like Barca for well over a decade.
Valdes CL final 2006:
Valdes CL final 2006:
Four years ago yeah, he was in 2011. Ever since, he has been overtaken by Sanchez and Suarez in the recent couple of years to become nothing more than a squad player. His peak was 4 years ago, even though he is at his "peak age" right now.
Big red flag on this article is our supposed reservations about Pedro's pace.
Why not? Fergie was willing to allow Ole to go to Spurs back in the day as he'd been a great servant to the club and he understood if wanted to be a guaranteed starter elsewhere.
We didn't have a transfer embargo.
I think it was just an agreement that pedro had with the management that he can be allowed to go if he wanted. The release clause confirmed by Barca was €150m
They just offered him a new contract till 2019 about last month. Doubt they would do that if they wanted to sell him.
Valdes was good till about 2010 or so. Post that he has made lots of errors like the one where he tried to dribble past Di Maria for instance. in his one game against hull he let in two goals (ruled offside) where he failed to collect the ball. But yes his shot stopping is good and he had a good 13-14 till his injury
That's not relevant, they only need to get through 3 and a half months, and they have 3 of the best strikers in the world, even if Neymar missed a few games I'm sure Messi and Suarez are enough to win the games with one of the youngsters plugged in to the other front 3 spot.
Feck me at last, and now they've signed Turan under a transfer embargo, even though they're prepared to let him go in this window, respecting his wishes, bollox, they don't rate him anymore.
Exactly, they know they can cope without him, that's how highly they now rate him.
No, it's the fact that they they have 3 of the 5 top forwards in world football that they can afford to let him go. That doesn't mean he's not an excellent player.
Really! when did they sign those two?
Why sign Turan then?
While you've stopped watching them of course.
Suarez and Sanchez are top players. Is anyone behind them "average"? Would Carrick/Herrera become average because we've signed Schweinsteiger?
Some of you need a dictionary. Average, indeed.
Turan is an attacking midfielder. He plays in wing for atleti but he is best centrally. Iniesta is 32. They may want to phase him out slowly like they did with Xavi. Turan is probably for that purpose. They initially wanted pogba but I don't think a fee was agreed.
As I said, if they didn't rate pedro and wanted him sold they would not have given him a new contract. At €150m release clause that too
It's ridiculous for anyone to say that they don't rate him, but it's also daft to claim that they rate/need him immensely, but want to do right by him and grant him a move of his choice. As if.
A new contract means hardly anything. His last one expire in a years time, and the inflated release clauses don't mean all that much to Barcelona and Madrid.
Not saying he is average, but he is not the top class force that a lot of people on here seem to think he is. Fair enough, most players would be benched for Suarez, but remember that Sanchez ended up benching Pedro. The Pedro of 2009-2011 form would have probably not let that happen. There has been an undeniable decline in Pedro, and he has never reached those heights since. For our attacking slots, we should be looking at top/world class players, not someone like Pedro
If their intention was to sell him, then they wouldn't give him such a long contract. Contracts are generally renewed when you want to increase the transfer fee or when you want the player to remain at the club for at least 2-3 more years. As Barca is apparently letting him go for a relatively low cost, i don't see another reason they renewed it for 4 more years.
They may not need him as much as they need Messi for instance but he isn't a fringe player there. Statements from bartomeu Enrique seem to indicate they are selling him because. He wants to go. I don't think they said anything similar when Sanchez and Martin Montoya(Montoya was loaned out because he wasn't rated highly) left
if forums are good for one thing (and being more than just a place for malcontents to rant off), it's the polar opinions on things.
The contrast between the people saying how amazing he'd be, and the ones saying how average he'd be is hilarious.
I haven't seen enough of him at all to tell, but it surely beggars belief that a team like Barcelona would have him hanging around for years, making 30-40 appearances a year if he was average.
They aren't us from the last few years
The contrast between the people saying how amazing he'd be, and the ones saying how average he'd be is hilarious.
I haven't seen enough of him at all to tell, but it surely beggars belief that a team like Barcelona would have him hanging around for years, making 30-40 appearances a year if he was average.
They aren't us from the last few years
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