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where will Pedro go?

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Ish84045 said:
I may be totally wrong here, but isn't there an additional tax or complication in Spain (or law, in general) when a player has to buy out his release clause, versus just having a club agree a deal straight?

Maybe it's not because we don't value him at 22m, it's just that Barca's insisting the only way he leaves is buying out his own contract, thus making the price more than 22m? I could be clutching obviously, so apologies.
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Could be. If the clause is 22m pounds and Barcelona refuses to negotiate, the total price could go up to more than 33m with taxes. Clubs use this to negotiate and get something in between 22 and 33m.

Thiago's clause was a few millions lower than what bayern ended up paying for the same reason.

Taxes are always a problem with bilbao because they always refuse to negotiate, they are not a selling club.
 
Who would be certain to do that? I don't think Reus or Griezmann would be any more nailed on to bag 15-20 in their first season in the PL.[/QUOTE]

That's exactly the point, However,I think they would both have a better chance, considering they are both superior players to Pedro.
 
hebegebe said:
That's exactly the point, However,I think they would both have a better chance, considering they are both superior players to Pedro.
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Well then where do you think we should get the firepower from? I mean whoever we bring in is going to have to get used to the league. I also don't see how both are superior to Pedro, a player who has constantly played in, and delivered in, the biggest games in football.
 
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I reckon this is a done deal, I dont know if anyone else has noticed but MUTV are advertising the game against Barca on Saturday with highlights of both utd and barca players but literally in all barca clips being shown Pedro (you would have thought Messi/Neymar) is centrally focused and is the only barca player shown on his own. I reckon they know something, they are out on tour with them after all.
 
Devil may care said:
There is some kind of tax issue I believe but I've only heard of it being a stumbling block when Bilbao are invoived.
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louvega said:
Could be. If the clause is 22m pounds and Barcelona refuses to negotiate, the total price could go up to more than 33m with taxes. Clubs use this to negotiate and get something in between 22 and 33m.

Thiago's clause was a few millions lower than what bayern ended up paying for the same reason.

Taxes are always a problem with bilbao because they always refuse to negotiate, they are not a selling club.
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Thanks for the clarity lou. Assumed it might have something to do with it because I read recently (someone from the Barca camp) saying that their wont be any more departures etc and if anyone wanted to leave, you'd need to pay the release clause.

I can't see Barca being too stubborn if Pedro states his desire to leave though - but they could well be short with options upfront, off the bench unless they promote some graduates or use Iniesta wide as a option. Munir still around?
 
Devil may care said:
Well then where do you think we should get the firepower from? I mean whoever we bring in is going to have to get used to the league. I also don't see how both are superior to Pedro, a player who has constantly played in, play-acted, cheated, dived and delivered in, the biggest games in football.
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Just corrected your post.
 
unitedbhoy said:
On the bench :)

But tbf, you could easily swap him out for either Schneiderlin or Carrick. Carrick and Schewinsteiger certainly will have their injuries during the season.
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Very true
 
unitedbhoy said:
Yeah I know that Memphis is predominantly a left sided player but Pedro is as well.

Fancied Memphis as the more suited to the right side out of both of them as he is right-footed and Pedro is left.
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Pedro is right-footed. He is ambidextrous though so I get the confusion. But he's definitely right-footed. It doesn't matter whether he plays left or right anyway. In 10/11, probably his best season, he was on the right with Villa on the left.
 
unitedbhoy said:
Ramos is also right footed. So does that mean that if either Ramos or Otamendi were to start for United, it would never be along side Smalling? I can't see LVG not playing the 2 best CBs in big games.
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We played Smalling and Jones in some games last season and Lvg wont have a problem with having two right footed CBs.
 
Pedro/Di Maria/Memphis/Mata

That would be some seriously fantastic options for the wing. Just hope its not Pedro in, Di Maria out.
 
Mali_Zeus said:
We played Smalling and Jones in some games last season and Lvg wont have a problem with having two right footed CBs.
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So Smalling could easily play along side both Otamendi or Ramos?

Would be a bit ludicrous not to play your 2 best CBs together just because one can't play 10 or so yards to the other side of the pitch.
 
Pedro is your quintessential two-footed player, can't think of a single player of his calibre who is more at ease with either foot. IMHO he's better on the right
 
unitedbhoy said:
Interesting. Never thought about that. Smalling and Otamendi both right footed?

Has LVG ever had a preferred starting 11 that included 2 of the same footed CBs?
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Jones, Otamendi and Smalling are all right footed. But Jones is the only CB whom LvG has trusted on the 'wrong' side of his defence, probably because he's more comfortable at carrying the ball than Smalling.

Mali_Zeus said:
Why do you think that. And couldnt Otamendi play LCB?
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Possibly. But LvG has lots of funny ideas about who should play where in his defence. Out of Jones, Smalling, Evans, Rojo, Blackett, McNair and Blind there's only one player he's trusted on on their unnatural side - Jones. From what I understand, he's hardly ever done it with any other players at his previous clubs. I think PJ is the exception to the rule.
 
RedMilo said:
I reckon this is a done deal, I dont know if anyone else has noticed but MUTV are advertising the game against Barca on Saturday with highlights of both utd and barca players but literally in all barca clips being shown Pedro (you would have thought Messi/Neymar) is centrally focused and is the only barca player shown on his own. I reckon they know something, they are out on tour with them after all.
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I'm not sure a massive amount can be read into that. Forward wise, he's the only star forward on tour is Pedro.
 
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Reading this thread it seems like we're in for Aaron Lennon. Not Pedro. The disrespect for the lad is heartbreaking. He's very fecking good.
 
RedMilo said:
I reckon this is a done deal, I dont know if anyone else has noticed but MUTV are advertising the game against Barca on Saturday with highlights of both utd and barca players but literally in all barca clips being shown Pedro (you would have thought Messi/Neymar) is centrally focused and is the only barca player shown on his own. I reckon they know something, they are out on tour with them after all.
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Neymar/Messi are not in the tour. The other star forward is Suarez, for obvious reasons they wont use him
 
unitedbhoy said:
Ramos is also right footed. So does that mean that if either Ramos or Otamendi were to start for United, it would never be along side Smalling? I can't see LVG not playing the 2 best CBs in big games.
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Ramos whilst Right footed,plays left CB for Madrid and Spain.
 
RooneyLegend said:
---Depay---Rooney---Fekir
--------Kovacic--Herrera----
----------Schneiderlin-------
Shaw-Smalling-Stones-Darmain
---------------DDG------------------

This wins the league and competes for Europe.
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So we've got Schweinsteiger and Di Maria, but no, it's Kovacic and Fekir who make us league and CL contenders?

Okaaaaay.
 
Who the fekir?

Kovacic has impressed me, but I don't get the highlight in CM
 
Right footers on the right, left footers on the left until you get to the forwards. Then right footers on the left and left footers on the right.

It'a very very unlikely that van gaal will change this. Mata playing on the RW is an excellent example of how van gaal takes this so seriously.
 
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