Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea

where will Pedro go?


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We lack movement up front. Pedro is pretty good at running in behind.

I wouldn't be against this transfer. We far too static at times up front. Pedro will offer something different in attack to what we got.
 
Could he not cover as a striker as well? I would have him 100%. He would make a quality squad player.
 
He's a goal scoring winger; even if we don't sell di Maria, I'd get him in. Young is 30, Mata isn't a winger and Januzaj is still developing.
 
We lack movement up front. Pedro is pretty good at running in behind.

I wouldn't be against this transfer. We far too static at times up front. Pedro will offer something different in attack to what we got.

Agree, this is why I'm also not against Hernandez coming back either when a year ago I thought it was the right time for him to go.
 
During 13/14 Pedro played total of 54 games for Barca, 52 if you exclude the supercup.

In those 52 games he played the grand total of 3230 minutes on pitch. Sanchez who last year was sold to Arse played 3258 mins. Was he a pure backup for Barca?

The season before he played 3233 mins(excluding Supercup), while Sanchez 2628..

This season Sanchez wasn't doing too bad at Arse eh?

Average in all 5 of the last 6 seasons(excluding the last) he has played more than 3000 mins for Barca. Last year he had to compete with Messi, Neymar and Suarez for a spot. Three of the best top 5 attackers in the world right now.
Nice numbers. My point is, after having watched Barca a lot this season and discussed the team a lot with my Barca supporting mates, that he is no improvement on what we already have. Memphis has a much higher potential and Pedro is currently not much better, although it's hard to tell for any of them how they'll do in the PL, but Memphis deserves the spot as one of the two left wings over Pedro. Young too after the season he had, so that should be our two left wingers, which is Pedro's best position. As for the right wing, there's no need to switch out Mata or ADM for Pedro. He's a level below them both in my opinion. We've also got Januzaj and Pereira who'd suffer a lot if we bring in Pedro.
 
Honestly wouldn't mind bringing him in. Could serve as part of a front 3 or even 2nd choice to Rooney. Just wonder if he's serving as a stalking horse for either Gotze or ADM/Cavani swap deal. Rather prefer him to getting Lacazette, who would be pricey for a backup striker and I'm not sure he could be used on the wings.
 
How many people said "We don't need Vidic and Evra" when Sir Alex bought them? In addition to that Pedro would probably be more productive (providing he came with the right attitutde), then most of those listed.

We quite clearly needed a CB when we signed Vidic. We were happy with Heinze at the time and no one really disputed the Evra signing, was good to have two good LB's.
 
Nice numbers. My point is, after having watched Barca a lot this season and discussed the team a lot with my Barca supporting mates, that he is no improvement on what we already have. Memphis has a much higher potential and Pedro is currently not much better, although it's hard to tell for any of them how they'll do in the PL, but Memphis deserves the spot as one of the two left wings over Pedro. Young too after the season he had, so that should be our two left wingers, which is Pedro's best position. As for the right wing, there's no need to switch out Mata or ADM for Pedro. He's a level below them both in my opinion. We've also got Januzaj and Pereira who'd suffer a lot if we bring in Pedro.

I see where you are coming from I think we can agree to disagree on this. Pedro is surely better than Depay as of today.

As of now Depay is still unknown quality - 1 good and 1 excellent season but in a league that has maybe the worst defenders in the top leagues.

Besides LvG may think that he can turn Depay as a forward so it depends how he will pan out, he's far from the finished article.

Young is on entirely different level than Pedro, I don't think they can compare. Mata is central and AdM on the left.

Pereira is developing still and not a winger primarily, and Januzaj has to earn his place first, but as of now he's not ready to be a starter.

Pedro is better winger than Mata, he has pace to burn and IMO better finisher.

Besides, if it isn't Pedro, who else we can bring? If we bring in top striker most likely Rooney will also be wide or part of attacking two, so it would hamper the development and place of all the players you mentioned.
 
Just because we've been linked with him, has everyone suddenly forgotten what a cheating, diving, lightweight little Cnut Pedro is?
 
Not sure if you're saying that tongue in cheek, or are actually been serious.

He's clearly miles more suited to playing wide than Mata. We can start with the fact he can dribble, add his speed being twice Mata's, then add the fact he consistantly scored goals from that right wing for Barcelona including every competition they have been successful in
 
Just because we've been linked with him, has everyone suddenly forgotten what a cheating, diving, lightweight little Cnut Pedro is?

Nah, I haven't. He's a highly unlovable little cnut, there's no doubt about it.

But these days that's not a valid argument, apparently.

Setting his lack of personal graces aside, I can see the point of buying him IF Di Maria fecks off. He's a very effective player.

If Di Maria doesn't feck off, the argument seems to be: "Yeah, but we're Manchester United and we should have five highly paid, top class players in every position, and so forth" and I don't really fancy that sort of argument.

It doesn't hurt to keep adding quality players to the squad, but there's a limit. We have enough players for the relevant positions. Unless there's a serious deficiency in the quality of said players, we should make do with what we have. Not least because we have to break a number of them in as it stands - expecting an XI comprised of five or six new players to click right away is unrealistic.
 
Not sure if you're saying that tongue in cheek, or are actually been serious.

Why wouldn't he be serious? Pedro is a proper wide forward with blistering pace and a great goal scoring record in the position over the last 6 seasons. Mata is an AM/SS who is played out there because of his physical drawbacks centrally.
 
He's clearly miles more suited to playing wide than Mata. We can start with the fact he can dribble, add his speed being twice Mata's, then add the fact he consistantly scored goals from that right wing for Barcelona including every competition they have been successful in

Yes but I took your point as meaning ADM was better than Mata last season, Mata in every position he played last season was better than ADM.

A lot of people harp on about how ADM is fantastic and just shouldn't be sold etc, but on the whole he was not very good at all last season, flashes yes but consistency wise he was one of the worst, Mata on the other hand was one of the best.
 
If Di Maria struggled with the physical aspect of the PL, how will Pedro fair any better? He's of slight build himself.
 
We sure as hell will be if we continue building the squad. He's hardly a bad player like you're making him out to be.

I've never said he's a bad player, I said he's a cheating diver, I get enough crap from City fans for Young's antics.

To quote a generic Caf question, can he play at Stoke on a wet windy Monday night, answer: can he bollox.
 
I've never said he's a bad player, I said he's a cheating diver, I get enough crap from City fans for Young's antics.

To quote a generic Caf question, can he play at Stoke on a wet windy Monday night, answer: can he bollox.

Can Schweinsteiger or Depay ? Its a bit of a red herring.
 
I've never said he's a bad player, I said he's a cheating diver, I get enough crap from City fans for Young's antics.

To quote a generic Caf question, can he play at Stoke on a wet windy Monday night, answer: can he bollox.

And that's based on the numerous times he's played there and done nothing right?
 
I actually think they can.

Much like Mata and Herrera can as well, so it wouldn't be much of a leap to presume other Spanish players can as well. Pedro's former Barca mate Bojan is actually running the show at Stoke these days.
 
Just out of interest, does anyone think this move will go through and if so, is it dependent on the sale of Di Maria?

I'm in favour of us signing him myself.
 
Don't forget that physical beast David Silva, he seems to manage just fine, as did the mountainous Michael Owen. Fact is you just never know which players will adapt, it's more mental than anything IMO.
 
Much like Mata and Herrera can as well, so it wouldn't be much of a leap to presume other Spanish players can as well. Pedro's former Barca mate Bojan is actually running the show at Stoke these days.

It's nothing to do with him being Spanish.

Also, I think Bojan running the show at Stoke is slightly over the top, to say the least.
 
Just out of interest, does anyone think this move will go through and if so, is it dependent on the sale of Di Maria?

I'm in favour of it myself.
I can't see barca selling before their transfer ban is up
Could be wrong but it would seem to leave them a bit light up front should messi or Neymar get injured... Or if suarez decides to go all vampire again
 
It's nothing to do with him being Spanish.

Also, I think Bojan running the show at Stoke is slightly over the top, to say the least.

He's been very good since joining them. Not bad for a small Spanish player who routinely plays well in the hallowed midweek at Stoke fixtures.
 
Don't forget that physical beast David Silva, he seems to manage just fine, as did the mountainous Michael Owen. Fact is you just never know which players will adapt, it's more mental than anything IMO.

You may be right, but Pedro does have a track record of going down like a sack of potatoes.
 
Just out of interest, does anyone think this move will go through and if so, is it dependent on the sale of Di Maria?

I'm in favour of it myself.

Well I can't see us buying Pedro and keeping Di Maria. Just seems like massive overkill for those attacking slots, unless LVG see's Pedro as Rooney's striker competition, who can also be utalised on the wing?
 
I can't see barca selling before their transfer ban is up
Could be wrong but it would seem to leave them a bit light up front should messi or Neymar get injured... Or if suarez decides to go all vampire again

Forgot about the ban. Wonder if that might hinder it.
 
Just out of interest, does anyone think this move will go through and if so, is it dependent on the sale of Di Maria?

I'm in favour of us signing him myself.

I think it couldn't be more obvious that he's a Di Maria replacement, I'm surprised to see people posting lineups with the two of them in it.
 
If Di Maria struggled with the physical aspect of the PL, how will Pedro fair any better? He's of slight build himself.
Di Maria's problem is that he blindly dribbles with the ball into a number of opposition and doesn't have even the slightest bit of physicality needed to retain the ball.

Pedro is a fine dribbler, and is probably one of the smartest off-the-ball runners in the world. The amount of assists he gets from passing to a previously offside player using the 2nd phase offside rule is crazy.
 
He's clearly miles more suited to playing wide than Mata. We can start with the fact he can dribble, add his speed being twice Mata's, then add the fact he consistantly scored goals from that right wing for Barcelona including every competition they have been successful in
I remember you used to rate him highly, so high even that you went into endless essay arguments on the football forum how Mata is going to best Silva in the PL... what went wrong? Where has the Mata love gone...
 
Well I can't see us buying Pedro and keeping Di Maria. Just seems like massive overkill for those attacking slots, unless LVG see's Pedro as Rooney's striker competition, who can also be utalised on the wing?

I think it's a possibility he may see him that way. Multi-functional as he says.
 
Di Maria's problem is that he blindly dribbles with the ball into a number of opposition and doesn't have even the slightest bit of physicality needed to retain the ball.

Pedro is a fine dribbler, and is probably one of the smartest off-the-ball runners in the world. The amount of assists he gets from passing to a previously offside player using the 2nd phase offside rule is crazy.

You make it sound like Pedro is the better player, when thats clearly not the case.
 
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