Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea
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"Mr Woodward, as we have been saying for the past month. It is 30m MINIMUM"
"Will you take 20m?"
"No, look, listen.. Pay 30m and you may discuss terms with him"
"I will offer 25m"
"You're not getting this. We will not sell for 20, nor 25, we will not sell for 29.999999. It is 30m and that is the absolute least he will go for"
"..."
"Mr Woodward do you understand?"
"Yes, yes. I'm totally with you now. I get it. Right with you"
"Ah, finally. Good. Okay so, are you going to make the offer?"
"20m"
"Will you take 20m?"
"No, look, listen.. Pay 30m and you may discuss terms with him"
"I will offer 25m"
"You're not getting this. We will not sell for 20, nor 25, we will not sell for 29.999999. It is 30m and that is the absolute least he will go for"
"..."
"Mr Woodward do you understand?"
"Yes, yes. I'm totally with you now. I get it. Right with you"
"Ah, finally. Good. Okay so, are you going to make the offer?"
"20m"
He's not a traditional winger as such, but he's played plenty of his football throughout his career out wide.
I reckon it was all a cunning plan by LvG and Woody. They wanted the threat of another winger coming to get some performances out of our current bunch.
I honestly don't believe for one second that it had anything to do with money, which is why i'm not upset with the club at all.
Everyone here could recognize that we need a striker, if that happen then happy days.
Everyone here could recognize that we need a striker, if that happen then happy days.
So, we weren't willing to pay the price - Chelsea were and so Chelsea got him - nice one Woody!
I can't see LVG saying he didn't want him - its not as if we have been creating lots of chances
I can't see LVG saying he didn't want him - its not as if we have been creating lots of chances
Are we getting Hazard and this is Chelsea getting the replacement in before they sell?
#believe
When you don't know anything blame Woody.
They are two different things - we need both!
I don't think Pedro was convinced on joining us due to LVG and the valdes scenario. I think the hold up was due to Pedro waiting on other teams firming up their interest in him and stalling us until then. He may have agreed terms but when when LVG said the ball was in Pedros court it signifies we have made him an offer and wanted to complete but he needed thinking time. Now Chelsea have made the offer and are likely to complete the deal quickly it seems we may need to look elsewhere. Or LVG like the movement of januzaj, Memphis and mata interchanging and is sticking with that. I would have loved Pedro here as he could have added something to the team but I don't think he will do well at Chelsea, only time will tell
So LvG feels Adnan is too slow to play on the wing, and then decides to play Mata there instead?
Insane.
Its OK we "didn't want them anyway"
According to BBC fee agreed on his way to London right now., very surreal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33989090
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33989090
Agreed - unless our club is run by children who worry most about what their friends will say about them in the playground.
I blame Victor Valdes
I blame David Moyes.
Just reading through some Chelsea forums, they seem pretty confident they were going get him quite while back..
So LvG feels Adnan is too slow to play on the wing, and then decides to play Mata there instead?
He plays Mata there because he wants to get him in the team due to his passing, and of what we currently have he's the best option, but he has said through the summer he needs to add pace to the position and wants a player to do that.
Yes, crazy to think we could possibly have simply gotten beaten by another big club willing to stump up the full amount straight away. Like it's somehow inconceivable that we have lost out.
This turn of events along with Woodwards supposed short Spanish trip makes me think he flew all the way over to be stood up with just a note left on the table
"Sorry Ed, it's not you, I've met someone else. Chelsea can treat me to more shiny things"
"Sorry Ed, it's not you, I've met someone else. Chelsea can treat me to more shiny things"
LVG - "You flew to Barcelona to try and sign Pedro??? I don't even want Pedro!"
Woody - "Sorry, maybe I should have checked with you first"
Woody - "Sorry, maybe I should have checked with you first"
I think we did pull the plug unless we had doubts about Pedro wanting to play for us, very similar to Di Maria situation. I don't think we'd have let him slip so easily just for sake of few million dollars when we have been throwing money around.
Just based it off early games. Mata is always right as LVG seems to like left footers on the right, he put Memphis in the middle to play Young. I just get the feeling he'd do the same with Pedro if he'd signed. I think as the season pans out all of our front four will get in the goals, that's not a worry for me. Completeing the dynamic of that front four is what i want, to ensure all of them are on their game.
Just checked BBC on my lunch break and cannot believe what I'm reading.
What the fcuk is going on? I'd bet Valdes advised Pedro to avoid Van Gaal like a fecking plague.
What the fcuk is going on? I'd bet Valdes advised Pedro to avoid Van Gaal like a fecking plague.
Another saga that will end up like Hazard. We can spend a hundred millions on two Galacticos to sit on the bench but not £20 million on a buy out clause. We then lose the players after setting the negotiations or playing them badly. As the clock ticks we look more desperate and the prices escalate. Our transfer policy now looks a shambles (not saying it is yet)!
BBC says it is just a 21M deal. So I guess it is not about money. Most likely Pedro simply jumped when champions came calling.
He'll be wasted at Chelsea. Their front 4 are set unless Costa gets injured and Pedro wouldn't solve that problem. He'll be in the same position he is at Barca, ie behind Willian rather than Neymar.
I do get the feeling that after 4/5 transfer windows of spending way over the odds and receiving a comparable pittance when reselling our own players the club wants a change of tack. We've been easy to fleece recently.
If we had doubts then why have we wasted weeks on this deal? He clearly wanted to leave Barca to be a starter somewhere so I don't see what doubts we could have had about his commitment to want to be first choice instead of waiting for one of the 3 best forwards int he world to get hurt in order to start.
So Man Utd spent a month conveniently haggling over a couple of million for Pedro when they could have signed him in a heartbeat. During that time Van Gaal got to see if Januzaj was ready to contribute this season which he discovered he was and on top of that maybe Van Gaal decided that an out and out striker was more of a priority. Yesterday Pedro was so fed up with the delays that he stated that if no one signed him within 72 hours then he'd stay at Barca and in stepped Chelsea. Despite some rubbish tabloids trying to twist things by saying Valdes talked Pedro out of signing for us - I seriously doubt there is any truth in that
We've had personal terms agreed with him for ages. We knew what the fee was but didn't want to pay it and so haggled for a month. It'll be billed as him choosing Chelsea over us but it's more we weren't certain and/or didn't think he was worth his buyout.
Chelsea seem so efficient with their transfer business too. We've been decent of late, but our record suggests we're like a fecking circus act.
I'd have thought Pedro is a significant upgrade on Willian.
Chelsea's interest would started once they released we are no more after him,its not their pressing need either.
Really didn't expect that. Thought he was ours.
Reckon that's it for us this window.
Reckon that's it for us this window.
If that's true maybe it's for the best? Pedro is his own man and if he didn't feel he could get on with LVG then maybe it's best he doesn't come...
Loved this! Mainly because I can picture it haha though Woodward in my head is played by Mr Bean.
I'm all for Pereira getting a chance but his pre season chances were left wing and as a 10 not once on the right and I think Pedro being comfortable on the right would have given us pace either side and enabled Mata to move to 10.
Plus 99 goals in in 326 appearances including opening goal in CL final proves he can make a difference for sure, to me anyway.
I must be the only one who thinks it's done and he's ours?
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