Pedro | Agreed terms with Chelsea

[ZupZup]

I think he'd be a brilliant signing... I could see a fluid front 3 of Rooney, Memphis and Pedro working exceptionally well. Similar to when we played with Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez in the past.

They're all goal scorers and all comfortable picking the ball up wide on either flank. Rooney and Pedro also work very hard when they don't have the ball.

Do it Woody!

 

[Wolverine]

Could be a good signing for the price. Movement, directness, pace and goal-scoring are the biggest pluses, and his versatility. As part of a front 3 in the 4-3-3 and in the Champions League he would be very handy. Although question marks over what it would mean for Di Maria, Januzaj, Hernandez. Not spending a large amount on a forward also means relatively more funds available for the centre-back, GK positions too.

 

[CLARiiON]

No chance he'd like Liverpool, coming from a city like Barcelona & there's no Champions League football with them either & maybe not for the next few years too.

Manchester isnt exactly Barcelona, or London either, for that matter, but we've gotta shit-hot airport (whoo-hoo) that will provide him with easy access to travel back & forth to Spain when free time allows, or when his family & friends want to visit him..

I didn't mean Liverpool literally. I am saying a club which will give him proper time in the playing 11. United or Chelsea doesn't gurantee that. In United you have ADM, Depay, Young, valencia, Mata and januzaj who play wide. How's that less competition than Barca where all it needs is an injury/rest/suspension to MSN for him to play?

 

[Red Hand Devil]

I didn't mean Liverpool literally. I am saying a club which will give him proper time in the playing 11. United or Chelsea doesn't gurantee that. In United you have ADM, Depay, Young, valencia, Mata and januzaj who play wide. How's that less competition than Barca where all it needs is an injury/rest/suspension to MSN for him to play?

I wasnt arguing your point mate - i was stating the obvious differences in locations is all..

Calm down, clam down.. Gloryhunter

 

[theyneverlearn]

Just about to turn 28, getting a prime Pedro for this sort of money is such a bargain, make it happen.

 

[Glanville95]

Probably a more befitting player on the right for us, than di Maria in our system. Not nearly as naturally talented mind you, but he'll still provide goals in our front three alongside Depay and Rooney.

 

[Sarni]

Getting Pedro for 20m would be decent,while we wait for Kane.

Pedro, albeit playing in a different position, is at a much higher level to Kane.

 

[Red Hand Devil]

Probably a more befitting player on the right for us, than di Maria in our system. Not nearly as naturally talented mind you, but he'll still provide goals in our front three alongside Depay and Rooney.

Its hard to get past Di Maria's performance's last season, so to compare with other potential signings.

Pedro would be a brilliant signing, but with what we've seen with Di Maria - no-one is guaranteed to be a success here.

£22m is an absolute steal though - compared to £59m for Di Maria last summer.

Its a no-brainer. Sign him up Mr. Ed..

 

[Roman Bellic]

Pedro, albeit playing in a different position, is at a much higher level to Kane.

while we wait for Kane.

 

[pacifictheme]

If Pedro came to the Prem, he would spend more time rolling around on the floor than playing football.

I sort of agree with this. Hes a bit weak. He'd be a di maria lite. Fast, creative goal scorer, weak, disappointing.

 

[Enigma_87]

Its hard to get past Di Maria's performance's last season, so to compare with other potential signings.

Pedro would be a brilliant signing, but with what we've seen with Di Maria - no-one is guaranteed to be a success here.

£22m is an absolute steal though - compared to £59m for Di Maria last summer.

Its a no-brainer. Sign him up Mr. Ed..

Pedro as a style is much closer to what LvG wants and is better fit to his philosophy. I'd imagine he'd do better just because of that. AdM is the better player overall, but Pedro will make the team better.

AdM/Depay --- Rooney/Depay --- Mata/Pedro

------------Mata/Herrera--------------------
---Bastian/Blind----------Carrick/Morgan------

on paper looks pretty good with a good balance. And we have Wilson and Januzaj to get some games...

 

[Nate Dogg]

Do we really need another Spanish midget?

Even if ADM left we are well stocked in the wingers department, in fact we should be integrating the likes of Perreira, Januzaj and Wilson into the squad rather than waste money in position that is not a necessity.

 

[Macern]

Why on earth would we need Pedro?

 

[Lennon7]

Why on earth would we need Pedro?

Where on earth would we play Pedro? What on earth does that mean for Memphis, Di Maria, Mata, Pereira or Januzaj? We're full to the brim with wingers.

 

[Mali_Zeus]

I also wonder why would we be in for him.

 

[Enigma_87]

Why on earth would we need Pedro?

We don't "need" him, in the same way we didn't "need" RvP. Truth is, when a player like him is avalaible at the price quoted we shouldn't be hesitant.

He'd be our best finisher, accustomed to possession and one touch game which LvG favors, will add pace to the attack and will be our best winger(bar AdM if he finds his game).

Where on earth would we play Pedro? What on earth does that mean for Memphis, Di Maria, Mata, Pereira or Januzaj? We're full to the brim with wingers.

Pereira is still a youngster, Januzaj so far hasn't worked for him, Pedro is better. Mata should play centrally and Depay can play on the left wing or as a striker.

 

[cyberman]

Where on earth would we play Pedro? What on earth does that mean for Memphis, Di Maria, Mata, Pereira or Januzaj? We're full to the brim with wingers.

Van Gaal has said this season will be a season of adjustment for Memphis, ADM is probably gone or if he stays hasn't even hinted at being able to handle a full English season
The two youngsters are.. Well young and wouldn't have the consistency or experiance to achieve what LVG wants this year.
It's ok quoting names but looking at each case on it's merits you can see why he would want another wide man in.
We have a bad habit at United of judging under performing players by names and it's baffling to me. I saw it with Nani when posters were saying we should keep him in case he could replicate his 2010 form. 5 years ago!
IMO Louis looks at our wide options and sees in young and Mata two wingers who played well for half a season each, if that long in Matas case.
If they were central defenders there wouldn't be any of this, as we've seen when we have 35 defenders yet are begging to get a big name replacement in.

 

[Macern]

We don't "need" him, in the same way we didn't "need" RvP. Truth is, when a player like him is avalaible at the price quoted we shouldn't be hesitant.

He'd be our best finisher, accustomed to possession and one touch game which LvG favors, will add pace to the attack and will be our best winger(bar AdM if he finds his game).

He isn't that good at all.

 

[Enigma_87]

He isn't that good at all.

Playing average of 50 games per season in the best team in the world for the last 6 seasons, scoring 1 in every 3 games begs to differ.

 

[Kag]

Where on earth would we play Pedro? What on earth does that mean for Memphis, Di Maria, Mata, Pereira or Januzaj? We're full to the brim with wingers.

Di Maria is leaving, Pereira isn't a winger and Januzaj could do with a good loan. That changes things entirely.

Mata, Depay and Young are the only proper first team wingers we'll have here come September. Young is alright, Depay is an unknown quantity and Mata is good but should probably be doing more. We aren't full to the brim at all, really.

 

[Sylar]

For less than 30m euros, he would be an excellent signing. Hes turning 28, has CL experience, has a great record in front of goal. I think what some are forgetting is the increase in number of games next season combined with the history / record of the number of injuries we seem to pick up throughout a season.
Would quite enjoy seeing him play for United.

 

[Sam]

For all his finishing, he's not particularly creative is he?

Thats why I don't think replacing Di Maria is a good idea. We'll lose so much creativity if Di Maria goes, we need to replace that. We struggled enough for goals last season as it is.

 

[Ekeke]

I dont think he'd be a good replacement for Di Maria, but he'd be a vast improvement on Mata on the wing

 

[Ash_G]

He's a good player but for me I don't think he would suit us very well. He's not a winger who runs with the ball, he moves well in to space but we've not really played that way under LVG and in general are way too slow in the final third for him to work well. If we're planning to move Mata back to AM then it could work but in general I think we need someone who can do something more individualistic from the wings. Would much prefer giving ADM a second season to settle in.

 

[Ballache]

He's direct and can score from the wing. Would be interesting to see how he does.

 

[Lennon7]

Di Maria is leaving, Pereira isn't a winger and Januzaj could do with a good loan. That changes things entirely.

Mata, Depay and Young are the only proper first team wingers we'll have here come September. Young is alright, Depay is an unknown quantity and Mata is good but should probably be doing more. We aren't full to the brim at all, really.

Considering we'll be playing 4-3-3 a lot, we are full to the brim. There will be only 1 strikers position, so Memphis won't play there, and for the 2 wing positions there's Young, Memphis, Mata and Di Maria, who are all brilliant players.

Mata won't play centrally unless we play 4-2-3-1, which means either Herrera, Schweini or Schneiderlin will be dropped. I just think we've got enough quality and bringing in another top winger isn't really what we need. I'd rather keep Di Maria and see what he can do.

 

[::sonny::]

I prefer Pereira, Lindgard, Januzaj

 

[Macern]

Playing average of 50 games per season in the best team in the world for the last 6 seasons, scoring 1 in every 3 games begs to differ.

Yeah, you better check the stats again. He played 19+25 league games last season. You know what, he hasn't played 50 games in any of his seasons.

 

[United22]

The only reason we should be getting this guy is to replace Mata and not Di Maria. Pedro is nothing more than a goalscorer , the creative force that we have lacked in the final third is something that only Di Maria can provide us.

 

[Enigma_87]

Yeah, you better check the stats again. He played 19+25 league games last season. You know what, he hasn't played 50 games in any of his seasons.

I advise you to do the same.

2009–10 - 52
2010–11 - 53
2011–12 - 48
2012–13 - 45
2013–14 - 54
2014–15 - 50

Averages little more than 50 games per year. And in 4 out of the last 6 seasons he has played 50 or more games.

Source:
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pedro/leistungsdaten/spieler/65278/plus/?saison=2014

 

[Ralph1386]

I see many people talking about him as a winger but wouldn't he work as Rooney's back-up for the striker position?

 

[Macern]

I advise you to do the same.

2009–10 - 52
2010–11 - 53
2011–12 - 48
2012–13 - 45
2013–14 - 54
2014–15 - 50

Averages little more than 50 games per year. And in 4 out of the last 6 seasons he has played 50 or more games.

Source:
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pedro/leistungsdaten/spieler/65278/plus/?saison=2014

Fine, if you count all of his subs and games in crap tournaments as games then yeah, ~50 games. But stop trying to hide the fact that he's a pure backup for Barca.

 

[VanGaalEra]

We don't need Pedro (as good as he is). We have Di Maria, Mata, Memphis, Januzaj and Young!

We keep getting linked to these wingers, wide forwards (Firmino, Turan etc) and they keep going elsewhere. Our name is being used to drum up fees and interest elsewhere.

I honestly can't see us signing Pedro in a position we're stacked in. Unless of course Di Maria is off, then I'd take Pedro.

 

[Amethyst]

Fine, if you count all of his subs and games in crap tournaments as games then yeah, ~50 games. But stop trying to hide the fact that he's a pure backup for Barca.

He wasn't trying to hide anything, everyone's well aware he's a backup for the front three. You said Pedro didn't play 50 games a season and he showed you the stats that proved you were wrong. Last season Barcelona only played La Liga, Champions League and the Copa Del Rey so there was no 'crap tournaments' by the way.

Alexis Sanchez was sold as surplus last summer and was Arsenal's best player in 14/15 with 25 goals, so idea that because he's not first choice and is a backup behind Barcelona's incredible strike force means he 'isn't that good at all' is rubbish in my opinion. If that was the case he would have been sold 2-3 years ago.

 

[Devil may care]

Pedro is actually a proper goal scoring wide forward tailor made for a front 3 system, he's not a winger like Young or Di Maria or an AM like Mata. He'd further our movement of getting round pegs for round holes.

 

[Enigma_87]

Fine, if you count all of his subs and games in crap tournaments as games then yeah, ~50 games. But stop trying to hide the fact that he's a pure backup for Barca.

During 13/14 Pedro played total of 54 games for Barca, 52 if you exclude the supercup.

In those 52 games he played the grand total of 3230 minutes on pitch. Sanchez who last year was sold to Arse played 3258 mins. Was he a pure backup for Barca?

The season before he played 3233 mins(excluding Supercup), while Sanchez 2628..

This season Sanchez wasn't doing too bad at Arse eh?

Average in all 5 of the last 6 seasons(excluding the last) he has played more than 3000 mins for Barca. Last year he had to compete with Messi, Neymar and Suarez for a spot. Three of the best top 5 attackers in the world right now.

 

[gooDevil]

Not many players have scored 20 goals in a season from out wide.

 

[Kag]

Pedro is actually a proper goal scoring wide forward tailor made for a front 3 system, he's not a winger like Young or Di Maria or an AM like Mata. He'd further our movement of getting round pegs for round holes.

Agreed.

 

[Van Piorsing]

Could be a substantial improvement to Young & Nani and I doubt Van Gaal would say 'no' to players that can potentially upgrade us plus add some balance in solid depth for every competition there to win.

So far looks like a right player to adapt almost instantly to current team's philosophy. Lots of typical Spanish pace & skills but also important team work in attacking build ups.

 

[Striker10]

We don't need Pedro (as good as he is). We have Di Maria, Mata, Memphis, Januzaj and Young!

We keep getting linked to these wingers, wide forwards (Firmino, Turan etc) and they keep going elsewhere. Our name is being used to drum up fees and interest elsewhere.

I honestly can't see us signing Pedro in a position we're stacked in. Unless of course Di Maria is off, then I'd take Pedro.

How many people said "We don't need Vidic and Evra" when Sir Alex bought them? In addition to that Pedro would probably be more productive (providing he came with the right attitutde), then most of those listed.