Paulo Dybala

[Leftback99]

Come on folks. There’s something very wrong here if that latest ‘news’ is to be believed. Seriously, straight swap of Dybala for Lukaku? Either Sarri has picked up the wrong pack of smokes or Dybala has a skeleton in the cupboard.

Or maybe Lukaku isn't as bad and Dybala isn't as good as people on here think. Juventus aren't stupid.

I was told on here Sanchez for Mkhitaryan was the best deal ever, Darmian would be our right back for years, Depay was the new Ronaldo (slight exaggeration), Schweinsteiger was a brilliant signing, I could go on.

 

[Mainoldo]

I just don't believe this can happen because of how absurdly bad a deal this is for Juve. They'd be just better off swapping Higuain for Dzeko and retaining/selling Dybala for some money instead. It's mental what they're proposing.

You might not be up to date but they have been trying to get rid of Dybala ALL summer.

So how is it a bad deal?

 

[izec]

Have to say ive not seen any of that. Seen people questioning the mentality of Argentinian’s but not relating it to an Anglo Argentina issue/ rivalry.

probably; but not seen any particular evidence of it.

Not racist. I just find it tiresome the whole discussion about SA/Argentina and United. It has no relevance, so if people come up with it every time we are interested, i assume there is more to it. It is just weird to me

 

[wr8_utd]

If Juve really just want someone to be a foil for Ronaldo, they could go after the likes of Dzeko, Cavani or, if they've not completely pissed off Inter yet, Icardi. Short term solutions which don't require them to swap Dybala for Lukaku (who isn't really much better than any of the others)

 

[Fooza]

I just don't believe this can happen because of how absurdly bad a deal this is for Juve. They'd be just better off swapping Higuain for Dzeko and retaining/selling Dybala for some money instead. It's mental what they're proposing.

It's baffling, almost like there is something wrong with Dybala that Juve know but no one else does. I still think Lukaku will do very well over there, he'll score a lot of goals.

 

[IrishRedDevil]

DYBALA’S WAGE EXPLAINED

https://www.capology.com/club/juventus/salaries

He is currently earning £213,663 per week Gross (£11.1m per year), which equates to £115,378 per week after Tax.

If he is looking a 30% increase, it means his demands are £277,761.90 per week Gross (£14.4m per year). All wages are detailed in England as Gross.

To give some perspective, Pogba earns £290,000 per week (£15.08m per year) and Lukaku earns £200,000 per week (£10.4m per year).

Therefore, Dybala is requesting £4m more per year than we are currently paying Lukaku.

 

[Mainoldo]

Or maybe Lukaku isn't as bad and Dybala isn't as good as people on here think. Juventus aren't stupid.

I was told on here Sanchez for Mkhitaryan was the best deal ever, Darmian would be our right back for years, Depay was the new Ronaldo (slight exaggeration), Schweinsteiger was a brilliant signing, I could go on.

Yeah done listen to people on here. I’m still upset with some claiming Darmian was the best full back in Italy and couldn’t believe we wanted Clyne over him. They both turned out crap. Not to mentioned Schneiderlin being a beast in the Center.

 

[mu4c_20le]

If Juve really just want someone to be a foil for Ronaldo, they could go after the likes of Dzeko, Cavani or, if they've not completely pissed off Inter yet, Icardi. Short term solutions which don't require them to swap Dybala for Lukaku (who isn't really much better than any of the others)

From what i've heard, their board aint too keen on Icardi.

 

[wr8_utd]

You might not be up to date but they have been trying to get rid of Dybala ALL summer.

So how is it a bad deal?

They could quite easily move Higuain and bring in a striker who'll do the same job and yet sell Dybala and make good money instead of swapping him for Lukaku. Dybala in the current market, irrespective of his recent season, should be worth a lot more than Lukaku.

 

[Mainoldo]

It's baffling, almost like there is something wrong with Dybala that Juve know but no one else does. I still think Lukaku will do very well over there, he'll score a lot of goals.

Maybe the 5 league goals he scored last season.

 

[diarm]

If Juve really just want someone to be a foil for Ronaldo, they could go after the likes of Dzeko, Cavani or, if they've not completely pissed off Inter yet, Icardi. Short term solutions which don't require them to swap Dybala for Lukaku (who isn't really much better than any of the others)

Madrid would probably have done the same swap for Benzema and you'd have a proven foil for Ronaldo, albeit a 31 year old. Still only a youngster by Serie A standards though.

 

[wr8_utd]

Or maybe Lukaku isn't as bad and Dybala isn't as good as people on here think. Juventus aren't stupid.

I was told on here Sanchez for Mkhitaryan was the best deal ever, Darmian would be our right back for years, Depay was the new Ronaldo (slight exaggeration), Schweinsteiger was a brilliant signing, I could go on.

This deal is a no brainer for us because Lukaku anyway isn't an important player for us and we get in someone of the huge quality of Dybala who, even if he's awful, we can move on in a year and bring in a good 60-80m. There is no downside to this deal at all.

 

[mu4c_20le]

They could quite easily move Higuain and bring in a striker who'll do the same job and yet sell Dybala and make good money instead of swapping him for Lukaku. Dybala in the current market, irrespective of his recent season, should be worth a lot more than Lukaku.

Nope... Higuain absolutely refuses to go anywhere.

 

[Coops73]

The amount of people stereotyping Argies here...

Not really seen that but they’re probably just taking the piss, I’ve never really felt there are any “really big racists” on here, not that I read every post, but I’m sure the mods aren’t stupid and would ban them if there was any racism or racist comments.

 

[Fooza]

Maybe the 5 league goals he scored last season.

Surely they won't sell a player just because for 1 year he wasn't prolific enough. I can understand why we'd get rid of Lukaku so quickly because he doesn't fit Ole's plans. But since Sari joined Juve I would have thought Dybala is more suited to his style than a Lukaku.

 

[Mainoldo]

They could quite easily move Higuain and bring in a striker who'll do the same job and yet sell Dybala and make good money instead of swapping him for Lukaku. Dybala in the current market, irrespective of his recent season, should be worth a lot more than Lukaku.

The reason why this makes sense to them is because nobody is paying there asking price for Dybala abit like what we have with Lukaku. There current number 9’s are fatty and Manzukich. Where are they finding the funds to get a striker Lukaku’s level without selling Dybala? Yes Dzeko is attainable but so is he attainable for Inter too and guess who there number target was.

 

[ottosec]

DYBALA’S WAGE EXPLAINED

https://www.capology.com/club/juventus/salaries

He is currently earning £213,663 per week Gross (£11.1m per year), which equates to £115,378 per week after Tax.

If he is looking a 30% increase, it means his demands are £277,761.90 per week Gross (£14.4m per year). All wages are detailed in England as Gross.

To give some perspective, Pogba earns £290,000 per week (£15.08m per year) and Lukaku earns £200,000 per week (£10.4m per year).

Therefore, Dybala is requesting £4m more per year than we are currently paying Lukaku.

275k is a reasonable wage for tying down the prime years of someone of his quality. I thought he would ask for Sanchez type of money.

 

[stepic]

It's possible to love your career and to have a passion for the work your business does. If you do, your output is better.

In a sport of XI versus XI, those small margins make a huge difference.

so why should any of us question his preference to remain at Juve?

 

[Andy_Cole]

Not really seen that but they’re probably just taking the piss, I’ve never really felt there are any “really big racists” on here, not that I read every post, but I’m sure the mods aren’t stupid and would ban them if there was any racism or racist comments.

I was only joking with my previous post. Sounds like an accusation read rather than if I said it in person.

However I do think it's silly to stereotype nationality because it hasn't worked in the past.

 

[wr8_utd]

Maybe the 5 league goals he scored last season.

Same as Tevez in his final season for us. He turned out quite the awful signing for City and Juve, didn't he?

 

[mu4c_20le]

So Sanchez, De Gea, Pogba and then Dybala. I can live with that. Rashford and Martial have already got their deals this year. So our wages aren’t going to be going up big from within the club anytime soon.

He'd be our second superstar, third if you include DDG, shouldnt be a problem with Ed and Judge. He'll make a ton in shirt sales.

 

[izec]

Maybe the 5 league goals he scored last season.

They selling Cancelo as well tells me they have gone off the rails. I thought some of their buys were good, but their sales are a step back

 

[Leftback99]

Yeah done listen to people on here. I’m still upset with some claiming Darmian was the best full back in Italy and couldn’t believe we wanted Clyne over him. They both turned out crap. Not to mentioned Schneiderlin being a beast in the Center.

I fell into the Schneiderlin trap myself, others like this one I had my doubts. Hopefully proved wrong.

 

[Mainoldo]

Surely they won't sell a player just because for 1 year he wasn't prolific enough. I can understand why we'd get rid of Lukaku so quickly because he doesn't fit Ole's plans. But since Sari joined Juve I would have thought Dybala is more suited to his style than a Lukaku.

Not really Sarri did very well with Higuaín as his lead man at Napoli and at Chelsea he liked the big man up top. Dybala stopped being fancied by Allegri and Juve and there managers are normally in tune so I feel the decision to let him go is also a club decision. He’s 25 he’s not a youth prospect they are looking at developing and they have Ronaldo for goals. So except for having a nice highlight reel and looking good... why else do they need him?

 

[George The Best]

Or maybe Lukaku isn't as bad and Dybala isn't as good as people on here think. Juventus aren't stupid.

I was told on here Sanchez for Mkhitaryan was the best deal ever, Darmian would be our right back for years, Depay was the new Ronaldo (slight exaggeration), Schweinsteiger was a brilliant signing, I could go on.

Nah, but we can be. Just hope our medical department is better prepared this time. Remember Hargreaves? Just have a feeling there’s something very fishy about their willingness to straight swap Dybala for Lukaku.

 

[Mainoldo]

They selling Cancelo as well tells me they have gone off the rails. I thought some of their buys were good, but their sales are a step back

You have to remember these players are only good to us looking from the outside in. They probably think we are mad for wanting to sell Belgium’s top goalscorer.

 

[Eckers99]

Ronaldo didn't fancy England or United anymore in the summer of 06 and the summer of 08. How did the subsequent seasons go?

Then we're back to playing for United being a player's last resort. And Dybala, for all his talent, is no Ronaldo.

 

[diarm]

You have to remember these players are only good to us looking from the outside in. They probably think we are mad for wanting to sell Belgium’s top goalscorer.

I've been on their forum. They don't.

 

[RDCR07]

Nah, but we can be. Just hope our medical department is better prepared this time. Remember Hargreaves? Just have a feeling there’s something very fishy about their willingness to straight swap Dybala for Lukaku.

Dybala has played over 40 games in 4 consecutive seasons. So you don’t have to worry about his fitness.

 

[VP89]

275k is a reasonable wage for tying down the prime years of someone of his quality. I thought he would ask for Sanchez type of money.

It really isn't. 275k is a shit ton of money to add to your wage bill. I'm sure it's comfortably more than the likes of mane, salah, kane etc.

 

[Dante]

so why should any of us question his preference to remain at Juve?

Exactly. If he's going to be sold under duress, there's no point in him signing for United.

If I were a player, I would put more effort playing for AC Milan than I would for Real Salt Lake. I'm not a fan of either, but I respect the former more because I grew up watching them as a famous institution.

If reports are true that Dybala doesn't want to come to England and only fancies the big Spanish clubs, then fair dues. I can see why his upbringing would instill that sporting perspective, so best of luck to him over there. Those teams are the ones he respects as famous institutions. It is what it is. Doesn't make him a bad person, but it does make him a bad fit.

United don't need somebody who sees us as a payday rather than a cause to be proud of.

 

[Mainoldo]

Same as Tevez in his final season for us. He turned out quite the awful signing for City and Juve, didn't he?

What’s your point we didn’t force the option to sign him. So football clubs will never make a mis judgement? If that’s the case Arsenal would have never got Henry. Just smile and hope it works out for us. I don’t get the point of being so skeptical.

 

[RDCR07]

It really isn't. 275k is a shit ton of money to add to your wage bill. I'm sure it's comfortably more than the likes of mane, salah, kane etc.

It’s an extra 75k per week. We were paying Lukaku 200k per week.

 

[Tiber]

Enjoy . This is your time

I just hope it's not a case of either Dybala or Fernandes.

I'm utterly convinced that Fernandes is going to be a superstar and quite frankly this team needs all the creativity and flair it can get. We need both

 

[wr8_utd]

The reason why this makes sense to them is because nobody is paying there asking price for Dybala abit like what we have with Lukaku. There current number 9’s are fatty and Manzukich. Where are they finding the funds to get a striker Lukaku’s level without selling Dybala? Yes Dzeko is attainable but so is he attainable for Inter too and guess who there number target was.

There are already rumors of Higuain heading to Roma. If Juve wanted to go for Dzeko they could easily propose a swap or just pay the 20m or so they seem to want for him. There are better players than Lukaku (Icardi, Cavani) they could try for or decent short term options like Dzeko while still retaining Dybala as an option or finding a buyer for him.

 

[Alemar]

275k is a shit ton of money to add to your wage bill.

You should deduct the Lukaku wage - then its merely a 75k increase. Darmian is probably on these wages, so we will be even if sell Darmian as well

 

[bosnian_red]

It really isn't. 275k is a shit ton of money to add to your wage bill. I'm sure it's comfortably more than the likes of mane, salah, kane etc.

In 2019, at a club like United for a top player, it's not entirely unreasonable. Don't compare how much Spurs pay their players. Compare it to players at Madrid, Barca, PSG, Juve, City, and others at United.

 

[Berbaclass]

They could quite easily move Higuain and bring in a striker who'll do the same job and yet sell Dybala and make good money instead of swapping him for Lukaku. Dybala in the current market, irrespective of his recent season, should be worth a lot more than Lukaku.

They'd need a couple of guys and a winch

 

[wr8_utd]

Then we're back to playing for United being a player's last resort. And Dybala, for all his talent, is no Ronaldo.

We will not be as attractive as Juve, Madrid, Barca or even City and Liverpool right now and we've got to accept that. Dybala maybe no Ronaldo but neither is this current team anywhere close to what we had back then.

 

[diarm]

It really isn't. 275k is a shit ton of money to add to your wage bill. I'm sure it's comfortably more than the likes of mane, salah, kane etc.

Kane plays for Spurs and the other two had nothing like Dybala's profile when moving to Liverpool. I'd be fairly sure they'll both be looking for similar for their next contract - if Liverpool aren't willing to pay it then the likes of Madrid, Barca, Bayern or Juve will.

Salah is on base £200k plus performance incentives as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not too far off £275k as is.