That’s bizarre. So form doesn’t matter in football?
Paul Scholes: Give Ole Until The End Of The Season
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Looks like he was right. Same team vs Atalanta against a much better side in Liverpool and we've been completely fecked.
At least you've cheered me up.
I'm glad I'm off out as this place is gonna be mental after this game.
Yeah I decided to drink yesterday so glad now. It would have been carnage.
At least you've cheered me up.
I'm glad I'm off out as this place is gonna be mental after this game.
Give it SAF until the end of the season.
He's a toe sucking weirdo. But he was right.
Man the feck up, stop sounding like a baby and stop blaming me
I’ve never created a single thread in all my time here for a start pal.
Scholes two drastically different reactions, the one and half time and the one at full time we’re odd and what prompted the replies it got.
It does but the way you approach a game and different opposition varies, he spoke specifically of the first half being open and disjointed, it didn’t need to be today.
Multiple posters mentioned that at the time along with Rio. His odd reaction at full time compared to the one at half time is what prompted replies more than what he was saying.
But we looked like that against Villarreal, Leicester and Atalanta. Everything was pointing to this and now it has came to fruition.
They are actually aiming to break records against us. They're not going to stop, and we can't do anything about it.
Rufen Sie die Polizei!
Rufen Sie die Polizei!
Man the feck up, stop sounding like a baby and stop blaming me
I’ve never created a single thread in all my time here for a start pal.
Scholes two drastically different reactions, the one and half time and the one at full time we’re odd and what prompted the replies it got.
Who’s blaming you?
I’m not an ole inner. I’m aware things posted on the cafe don’t effect what goes on on the pitch. And I didn’t spectacular mean you with the thread making. Though I respect that you’re still at least posting and haven’t gone into hiding like a few others.
he was right, he had that dreadful look on his face when he thought about what would happen if we played like that, he was genuinely worried and....
Gary Neville deserves to be commentating today. It’s poetic.
At the end of the season the club would be relegated
I respect our past players but at this point, I have no time for their opinion on this management structure. Emotion blurring realism
There’s no denying this season has been a step backward.Who’s blaming you?
And I didn’t spectacular mean you with the thread making. Though I respect that you’re still at least posting and haven’t gone into hiding like a few others.
In the absence of managers I’d really like us to go for I’ve been patient with Ole provided there was forward progression season on season, although slow progression. I’ve maintained I would reevaluate if we go backwards, it seems we are.
Id rather we go the Ten Hag route instead of Conte though. But not sure how much time a manager like Ten Hag would be given.
Everything he said was bang on.
100%
So a week later where do you stand now?
Celebrated his prophecy by giving his daughter a toe-blow.
Imagine attacking Scholes for employing reasonable foresight on an opinion. Went on a victory lap and dismissed issues that would put Ole's job under even more scrutiny less than a week later. If you wanted to back Ole you would have been better off acknowledging there were issues and wanting Ole to improve off the back of some very reasonable criticism. Some downright thickskulled cretins.
Says a lot about how deep in sand one needs their head buried to think Ole is beyond doubt.
Says a lot about how deep in sand one needs their head buried to think Ole is beyond doubt.
The Class of ninety-toe
One step closer to OUT but not there yet
Stop going on about it, It's toetally normal
If after todays performance you are still not out, I'm not sure you ever will be.
If there was ever a single game during his entire tenure that highlighted why he needs to go it was today. I'd wager if that was Jose or LVG you'd been wanting a change. Am I right or wrong?
When we play the same way and get carved open by average teams game after game and the management refuse to see or change it, it is also easy to say it before the game and at the moment the last game is very much dictating the next.
If you see someone run head first into a brick wall 10 times in a row, it is easy to dictate that they will probably do it an 11th time and the wall will probably still not fall down.
Bet there were some Cardiff fans like that swinging at the very end.
Are you sure?
That was quite possibly and legitimately both the worst result and performance in our modern history...and not only that but it was entirely predictable, entirely because our manager's ineptness has become entirely predictable.
If you have a squad that allows you to leave Sancho, Cavani and Pogba on the bench, then really any defeat prior to achieving success should be bringing questions about your managerial ability. We're not talking about that. We're talking about a situation where we lose 5-0 at home and it's barely even a surprise. The fact this situation exists in the first place is as damming a verdict as there will ever be for any united manager.
At no point under Moyes, Lvg or Jose would I have expected something as bad as that. Today I did because it wasn't really any worse than anything else we've served up recently
Wrong - I'm generally against sacking managers midseason
I said Ole gets until International Break minimum and stand by it
Feck sake. What people including myself were pointing out, more then what he actually said, was the way he changed from passive and relatively positive at 2-0 down at half time to completely dejected and miserable after we won 3-2. It was just odd, almost like he was frustrated we turned it around.
In hindsight he’s right yes but we didn’t play this badly last season, as Gary pointed out tonight, we don’t need to continue how we started against Atalanta, but yes we did.
Let's hope the board shares your viewpoint.
Is that more to protect the interim/new manager or do you think if he wins a game or two he deserves to stay? Also is midseason" just "until we're essentially eliminated from top 4"? I don't get the logic in waiting.
I can understand why you are but sometimes it just simply has to happen.
The more time he gets means even top 4 will be in danger.
Things just cannot keep going on like this we need a change.
And you have a podcast?
Must be like getting a physics lecture from a kindergarten teacher. Fairplay if some mugs listen to it.
No man, no need for that, keep it respectful even if you disagree with him mate.
I'm not sure what your point is. He probably got angry in the second half that clearly we shouldn't be 2-0 down in the first place if we can so easily outplay the opponent.
It doesn't matter what we NEED to do. Norwich didn't need to lose 7-0 to Chelsea and we didn't need to play like we did against Atalanta either, but it was obvious we would because we never address any of the issues with our performances. I don't get what the point would be here?
Honestly what were you expecting to happen today? We'd just magically stop letting the opposition carve through us even though it's happened literally every game this season without being sorted out? I completely agreed with Scholes on Wednesday and bug surprise the obvious things he pointed out turned out to be correct
I'm hardly being disrespectful. I kinda get it as well - with the things like podcasts, you need a niche because the competition is quite intense. So you try and standout with some bizarre stances (see Skip Bayless).
But in my opinion, if at this point you're still genuinely still arguing Ole in - I don't think your footballing opinions hold any weight. It's my personal litmus test of basic footballing knowledge. Like I wouldn't bother listening to anything on space/physics who's a flat earther. They're well within their right to have that opinion, but I don't think it has any credibility.
I wouldnt complain about Ole getting the sack after this horrific performance, in fact I did wonder if he might even resign since he knows very well how important this particular game is, but PL managers never resign nowadays as there is too much money at stake
He's in Last Chance Saloon now and the odds are against him leaving there alive but the fat lady isn't singing just yet !
The longer this season goes on, the more this season just becomes pointless.
With the squad at have we could actually maybe do something in the Champions League ala Chelsea (provided we get a midfielder in Jan)... But it requires someone competent in charge
With the squad at have we could actually maybe do something in the Champions League ala Chelsea (provided we get a midfielder in Jan)... But it requires someone competent in charge
A bit of both
I believe that when you have invested in a manager's vision and he built a top squad over 3 years that he should get every chance to fix any problems
I said previously in this thread that he gets to International Break (so another 3 matches) to prove he can fix the issues
Absolutely things have to change and for me Ole gets a couple more weeks to change it before I call it a dead cause