It’s lost on them mate, nothing can be seen as positive under Ole. Period.
Paul Scholes: Give Ole Until The End Of The Season
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I don't know why people have issues with what Scholes said. It's the same shit we're all saying in this very forum!
It's a good win considering the circumstances we were in but we should have never even been in that position at home against a team 6th in the league missing half their first team players and losing a defender to injury
It has put a plaster on our broken leg.
People like Rio probably celebrating it like we've won the World Cup yesterday night whereas Scholes is seeing the longer play here, and that is that if we continue to serve up shit like that first half, most teams won't give you a route back in.
They're is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Scholes is from a time where United were serial winners and beating a team like Atalanta was probably bread and butter stuff to players like him.
He is refusing to celebrate mediocre and wants untied to be battling Liverpool, not shaking in their boots in prep for the weekend, which we all are, if we're being totally honest.
Us fans will celebrate the win but this guy, like Keane and many others see things differently and that's understandable.
Someone said above that Scholes will only be happy when United are at the top... Of course! When he played for us, we were always at the top so is that so surprising?
It's a good win considering the circumstances we were in but we should have never even been in that position at home against a team 6th in the league missing half their first team players and losing a defender to injury
It has put a plaster on our broken leg.
People like Rio probably celebrating it like we've won the World Cup yesterday night whereas Scholes is seeing the longer play here, and that is that if we continue to serve up shit like that first half, most teams won't give you a route back in.
They're is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Scholes is from a time where United were serial winners and beating a team like Atalanta was probably bread and butter stuff to players like him.
He is refusing to celebrate mediocre and wants untied to be battling Liverpool, not shaking in their boots in prep for the weekend, which we all are, if we're being totally honest.
Us fans will celebrate the win but this guy, like Keane and many others see things differently and that's understandable.
Someone said above that Scholes will only be happy when United are at the top... Of course! When he played for us, we were always at the top so is that so surprising?
I think people are reading too much into Scholes' comments. He's never been the most eloquent of pundits. That's how he always expresses his mind, whether he tears into LvG or lets rip at Mourinho. Don't forget that both previous managers felt the need to pick up the gauntlet and respond to his punditry.
He didn't even change his tune that much from what he was saying at half-time. He didn't exactly call the comeback, he argued that it was a very open game in the first half that could go either way in the second. Which is exactly how i was feeling at the moment: Gasperini was never going to park the bus to protect a lead and we also seemed able to go up a gear or two, if we managed to get our act together. I was thinking that, if we scored in the first 15-20 minutes of the second half, we could turn this around. At the same time, if Atalanta were to go 3-0 up, it could turn into bloodbath for us.
What Scholes said at full-time was that we can't make a meal out of each game week in and week out. There are better teams than Atalanta out there, teams that can exploit our weaknesses and also do it with fewer chances than the Italians. There are also teams who, when going up 1/2-0 against us, they'll immediately revert to a much more pragmatic and cynical approach. All in all, it's great that, despite all our recent troubles, we can go out on the pitch and produce such a tremendous comeback. But the amount of times the players and the managers are forced to search very deep to come up with the right answers can be alarming too. It's nice when it happens every once in a while, but you can't expect to constantly live on the edge and always come up trumps.
He didn't even change his tune that much from what he was saying at half-time. He didn't exactly call the comeback, he argued that it was a very open game in the first half that could go either way in the second. Which is exactly how i was feeling at the moment: Gasperini was never going to park the bus to protect a lead and we also seemed able to go up a gear or two, if we managed to get our act together. I was thinking that, if we scored in the first 15-20 minutes of the second half, we could turn this around. At the same time, if Atalanta were to go 3-0 up, it could turn into bloodbath for us.
What Scholes said at full-time was that we can't make a meal out of each game week in and week out. There are better teams than Atalanta out there, teams that can exploit our weaknesses and also do it with fewer chances than the Italians. There are also teams who, when going up 1/2-0 against us, they'll immediately revert to a much more pragmatic and cynical approach. All in all, it's great that, despite all our recent troubles, we can go out on the pitch and produce such a tremendous comeback. But the amount of times the players and the managers are forced to search very deep to come up with the right answers can be alarming too. It's nice when it happens every once in a while, but you can't expect to constantly live on the edge and always come up trumps.
If things go have they have been going giving to the end of the season would be mental.
If we pick up six or more points from Liverpool Spurs City then he will have earned a bit more time.
Essentially should be treated like he is on a probationary period.
If we pick up six or more points from Liverpool Spurs City then he will have earned a bit more time.
Essentially should be treated like he is on a probationary period.
Yeah if it meant to happen that way.
First he was suppose to be caretaker and interim. So you never know. He might end up before Christmas.
Want factor is one thing. But meant to happen factor is another.
First he was suppose to be caretaker and interim. So you never know. He might end up before Christmas.
Want factor is one thing. But meant to happen factor is another.
Persistent individual brilliance is also on the manager?
You answered your own question there
I don't know why people have issues with what Scholes said. It's the same shit we're all saying in this very forum!
It's a good win considering the circumstances we were in but we should have never even been in that position at home against a team 6th in the league missing half their first team players and losing a defender to injury
It has put a plaster on our broken leg.
People like Rio probably celebrating it like we've won the World Cup yesterday night whereas Scholes is seeing the longer play here, and that is that if we continue to serve up shit like that first half, most teams won't give you a route back in.
They're is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Scholes is from a time where United were serial winners and beating a team like Atalanta was probably bread and butter stuff to players like him.
He is refusing to celebrate mediocre and wants untied to be battling Liverpool, not shaking in their boots in prep for the weekend, which we all are, if we're being totally honest.
Us fans will celebrate the win but this guy, like Keane and many others see things differently and that's understandable.
Someone said above that Scholes will only be happy when United are at the top... Of course! When he played for us, we were always at the top so is that so surprising?
How you can say something like that with a straigh face is genuinely beyond me.
What’s wrong with what he said . I am definitely not looking forward to the Liverpool game
Individual errors/brilliance aren’t on the manager, the fact we still have no plan and look a total shambles after 3 years in the job most definitely is though.
The best point made was about work rate, supposedly Ole was going to make the players fitter and work harder but it’s as bad as it’s ever been. Either he’s given up, doesn’t know how to do it or the players don’t listen to him. Whatever the answer is its not good enough and it’s not going to change if Ole continues.
Do you honestly feel comfortable with us against Liverpool playing the way each team is?
Never liked it tbh!
We are also sixth in the league.
But we should be higher.
Depends if they are happening occasionally (in which case not), or regularly (in which case yes).
Based on what? Not performances
The squad. We finished comfortably top 4 last season. I know Liverpool were shit and Chelsea had struggles but at the same time, Ole has had much more time with the squad now and we got in Varane, Sancho and bloody Ronaldo.
If we are the same level as Atalanta, that is bloody worrying.
As much as I believe Ole needs to be replaced the reality is that until we’re mathematically unable to get a top four place Ole will remain in charge so we’re most likely stuck with him until the end of the season.
That rule does not exist, Jose was booted in December where we had a chance of getting into top 4.
Go on do that against Liverpool…And we only gone on done that.
He was right, wasn't he?
He'll definitely be saying I toed you so right now...
I don't know what to say anymore if Ole is keeping his job after this performance. Shambolic stuff
Plenty of posters with feet in their mouths now.
Feck off.
Well doneHe literally called it 'half time it'd be 3 or 4 nil'
Scholes called it to be fair. He'll be nibbling on the toes again to cheer himself up.
Nice
He literally called the score line as well. Profeet.
Sorry @Fortitude
Sorry @Fortitude
Sure, Easy to read it that way now but we didn’t need to start the way we did, the last game shouldn’t dictate the next, that was the point made at the time.
I just hope all these ex united players stay away from commenting on club matters. Great footballers but thick otherwise.
It was easy to read on Wednesday too hence why Scholes said it.
Football isn’t magic, the last game does dictate the next. That’s why Liverpool are Liverpool and Newcastle are Newcastle.
The same way it was easy to read two years ago, a year ago, last week and today that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is not anywhere near the required standard to manage this football club. Yet you and many others spent years and months, telling people they were talking shit with your smug threads and top red propaganda. With your complete inability to see the bigger picture or analyse shit staring you in the face.
But here you fecking go, here’s your ole ran United. Enjoy it….