Paul Pogba

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RooneyLegend said:
its some desperation to be proven right about something most are 100% wrong about.
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The feck are you on about? It's people calling a performance as they see it. He didn't have a great game. In fact, he was a bit meh. This has absolutely nothing to do with how good he is now, or how good he will become.

There's clearly an agenda in the English media to big him up as much as possible, because the narrative about United/Fergie dropping a bollock sells papers/gets clicks. Last night we saw that in action, with a mediocre display attracting unwarranted praise. Hence a few people on here pointed that out.

Love to know where you got the idea that "most" are "100% wrong" about anything. Actually, I wouldn't...
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The feck are you on about? It's people calling a performance as they see it. He didn't have a great game. In fact, he was a bit meh. This has absolutely nothing to do with how good he is now, or how good he will become.

There's clearly an agenda in the English media to big him up as much as possible, because the narrative about United/Fergie dropping a bollock sells papers/gets clicks. Last night we saw that in action, with a mediocre display attracting unwarranted praise. Hence a few people on here pointed that out.

Love to know where you got the idea that "most" are "100% wrong" about anything. Actually, I wouldn't...
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I'm talking about the 'don't see the hype' 'hes not that good' brigade.
 
Thought he was good and played a significant role in their success. Has all the qualities to have a great career.
 
So how did he do yesterday? Didn't get to see the game sadly. I watched the extended highlights(30mins version) and he had a good shot that Casillas did well to save. Didn't see him much apart from that but then again it was only highlights.
 
prarek said:
So how did he do yesterday? Didn't get to see the game sadly. I watched the extended highlights(30mins version) and he had a good shot that Casillas did well to save. Didn't see him much apart from that but then again it was only highlights.
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Poor first half, okay second half. However he ended up wide left a lot of the time due to how Juve were defending, so not really an ideal spot for him.
 
bishblaize said:
Poor first half, okay second half. However he ended up wide left a lot of the time due to how Juve were defending, so not really an ideal spot for him.
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Doesn't he play on the left? As a left midfielder, not a winger.
 
prarek said:
So how did he do yesterday? Didn't get to see the game sadly. I watched the extended highlights(30mins version) and he had a good shot that Casillas did well to save. Didn't see him much apart from that but then again it was only highlights.
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Was very poor imo. Lots of missplaced passes and generally it was obvious he just got back from injury.
 
prarek said:
Doesn't he play on the left? As a left midfielder, not a winger.
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The formation was a diamond and he was on the left of the middle two, which is the usual area. But when they defended they flattened to a sort of 4-4-2, so Pogba ended up on the far touchline.
 
prarek said:
Doesn't he play on the left? As a left midfielder, not a winger.
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bishblaize said:
The formation was a diamond and he was on the left of the middle two, which is the usual area. But when they defended they flattened to a sort of 4-4-2, so Pogba ended up on the far touchline.
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Cheers mate. Doubt he was 100 percent. Lets see how he does in the final.
 
thegregster said:
He wont go to City. He will go to a big club like Madrid or Bayern.
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As it stands I can't see any big side shoving out an esablished name to make him front and centre, based on what I've seen anyway. He'll most likely become a really top player but he's not there yet. You can't go to Real Madrid for big money if you're not the finished article - one bad season and the fans are shouting for you to be sold.

It'll be interesting to see what happens. It'd probably be best for him to stay where he is.
 
Lawman said:
Yep agree with that but for £50M+ there are much better options out there from what I am seeing for what we need right now. Someone like say a Modric would help us far more in the next 2-3 years. Pogba is an unbelievable prospect though no doubt about it.
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Walrus said:
I always rated Modric and was a huge advocate of signing him from Spurs a year or two before Madrid came swooping, but I think it is a bit too late now, better to look for a younger player who can be part of the core of the team for the long term.

Whilst the prices touted for Pogba are pretty silly, if he is with the club 5-10 years and/or we resell him for a similar fee, you have to consider it good business. I would rather £60m for Pogba than £30m for Modric, for this reason.
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Do people really think that he will go for the sort of figures quoted? I mean there's been talk about a world record fee but there's no way it will be that high. For the figures being mentioned you would expect a player that gets you 30+ goals a season and he isn't that sort of player. It's common place for a players team to fire out high figures for one of their players before selling them for much less. I remember Sao Paulo saying that Lucas Moura would cost £80 million and he ended up going for less than half of that. If/when Pogba goes I'm not sure if the fee will even top the £50 million mark.
 
See that Paul still loves a sloppy back heel!

Thought his performance was massively overrated by most of the ABU press.
 
Redo91 said:
Do people really think that he will go for the sort of figures quoted? I mean there's been talk about a world record fee but there's no way it will be that high. For the figures being mentioned you would expect a player that gets you 30+ goals a season and he isn't that sort of player. It's common place for a players team to fire out high figures for one of their players before selling them for much less. I remember Sao Paulo saying that Lucas Moura would cost £80 million and he ended up going for less than half of that. If/when Pogba goes I'm not sure if the fee will even top the £50 million mark.
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Its all about the demand though. There weren't many clubs going in for Moura. Pogba on the other hand there are plenty of top clubs interested in him by the looks of it. Lots of players and managers have talked about him or atleast mentioned him in interviews. Juventus will want an all out bidding war. PSG, City, Barca, Real, Chelsea have all been linked with him.
 
WR10 said:
:lol:
2 months out, thrown right back into a CL semi final away from home and voila, a below average performance. Just what the caf needed to justify the hurt they have within them from us letting him go.
He'll be challenging for Ballon D'or in the next few years.
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He may well eventually, but he is clearly not the finished article yet despite a good number of fans beating his drum. On the other hand, he may just wind up a very good player but not a WOPTY world beater. We simply don't know.
 
Redo91 said:
Do people really think that he will go for the sort of figures quoted? I mean there's been talk about a world record fee but there's no way it will be that high. For the figures being mentioned you would expect a player that gets you 30+ goals a season and he isn't that sort of player. It's common place for a players team to fire out high figures for one of their players before selling them for much less. I remember Sao Paulo saying that Lucas Moura would cost £80 million and he ended up going for less than half of that. If/when Pogba goes I'm not sure if the fee will even top the £50 million mark.
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I cant see him going for less than £40m myself. Even with FFP, he is (or should be) a priority target for several top teams which would drive the price up, one would expect. He is only 22, and his contract runs until 2019 so the only pressure on Juventus is if the player himself wants to leave - but ultimately with 4 years left on his deal, he is pretty powerless I would say.
 
Red_toad said:
Ya needs to learn, this is a public forum & whatever ya say will be open to debate.

Simply pointing out the error of your opinion. Quit being butt hurt & back up your opinion with something that may actually support what you're trying to get across. For myself I've never seen any comment from Pogba saying he has any issues with Manchester United, simply that he felt he wasnt given the chances he felt he deserved by Fergie.
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Hows about the fact he left United??? I simply said I rather players that love United like Mata and Herrera seem to as they post comments and pictures of their trips around Manchester and how much they love the city and how the appreciate being at the club which you took exception to.
I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me but I don't like the arrogant tone you are conveying.
 
Yes guys, you all are right. he is over rated and no team should be near him imo.

How dare he played 'adequate' against Real Madrid in champions league semi final, in Bernabau after being injured for 7-8 weeks and got just 1 assist?
 
No he's not consistent enough to be a world beater yet but I think the criticism on him here is very harsh, he's still only 22 years old ffs, at his age Zidane was still at Bordeaux killing it in the French league. He's playing at the highest level of football and this is his first real taste of a final and despite a not-so Pogba performance he conjured up a vital assist to knock Real Madrid out, cut him some slack not everyone can just tear Madrid apart with a 45 yard screamer.

Despite the fact that he's going to be a great player I don't think he's the right player for us, his agent would just drive us crazy like he probably is for Juventus fans and would be a cnut every time he requires a new contract and he seems destined to play in the major cities of Europe. Seems more of an individual than a team player and that's something we should stay well clear of.

Our midfield requires a Schneiderlin type figure more than it needs a Pogba in terms of playing style and personality.
 
I'd love Pogba in our midfield, but there is always a circus where he goes. I don't think the fans will ever love him.
 
Woody might fancy the challenge.

If everyone was honest, we would all love to see him back in a United shirt.
 
Bloxy said:
I'd love Pogba in our midfield, but there is always a circus where he goes. I don't think the fans will ever love him.
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You mean like Balotelli? I hope this is not true. I wasn't aware of that.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Circus? He's only been at one club after United, and from what I know, the Juve fans adore him.
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I don't mean him moving around from club to club, but the circus of being constantly linked to every top club together with his twat agent. I also didn't like how he was constantly mouthing off about United and how he was treated..
 
prarek said:
So how did he do yesterday? Didn't get to see the game sadly. I watched the extended highlights(30mins version) and he had a good shot that Casillas did well to save. Didn't see him much apart from that but then again it was only highlights.
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I thought that was a really poor finish actually. shows how differently people can view that same incident!
 
RuudTom83 said:
Woody might fancy the challenge.

If everyone was honest, we would all love to see him back in a United shirt.
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If we had given him the opportunities (especially that arsenal game) he may still be here and as a player we would have brought through (and probably built around) he would be adored by the fans...
Mind you with pogba we could have finished top four last year and still have Moyes in charge so every cloud and all that
 
Bloxy said:
I don't mean him moving around from club to club, but the circus of being constantly linked to every top club together with his twat agent. I also didn't like how he was constantly mouthing off about United and how he was treated..
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He doesn't constantly do that. The same quotes get rehashed to make a bigger deal out of the situation.
 
Bloxy said:
I don't mean him moving around from club to club, but the circus of being constantly linked to every top club together with his twat agent. I also didn't like how he was constantly mouthing off about United and how he was treated..
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Good chance this might change if/when he actually joins a top European club though. As much as Juventus are undergoing a bit of a resurgence and have reached the CL final, they arent really in the true 'elite' anymore I think.
 
Bloxy said:
I don't mean him moving around from club to club, but the circus of being constantly linked to every top club together with his twat agent. I also didn't like how he was constantly mouthing off about United and how he was treated..
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In Rainbows said:
He doesn't constantly do that. The same quotes get rehashed to make a bigger deal out of the situation.
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I agree that he doesn't constantly keep reminding everybody that he was badly treated at United. If anything, it was the current teammates that keep reminding everyone especially SAF that he made the ultimate mistake in letting Pogba go.

SAF wrote the details in his bio regarding Pogba, and most people are well aware of it. For me, based on the quotes from his current Juve teammates, it seems that he is well loved and most probably a professional bloke when it comes to football. Not sure about the personality but we don't get anything about it in the news, even during the previous WC with France. I mean, tabloids could get just about anything nowadays with a few players in EPL caught smoking and whatnot.

Everyone makes mistakes. SAF did make one, and Pogba as well for being a bit impatient. He did speak well about the club if I am not mistaken. The possibility of him going to United might be low, but with new management and team, it is still might be possible. He is just so suited to EPL. My muppet dream for this summer :drool:

Walrus said:
Good chance this might change if/when he actually joins a top European club though. As much as Juventus are undergoing a bit of a resurgence and have reached the CL final, they arent really in the true 'elite' anymore I think.
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I have feeling that Juve might nicked it and win in the final. We will see, of course. If they do, Pogba might be thinking he has done all he can achieved in Italy and would be looking for new challenge. I am sure the fans would welcome him back. He doesn't say anything bad about the club and given the chance he would probably come back. :D
 
Papers seem to be really on this this morning. I mostly agree. Along with signing a right back (any decent right back), a top midfielder and De Gea should be the priority. I'd be happy if we shifted 400-500k off the wage bill and did those 3 pieces of business. CB would be nice too as 4th priority
 


This was tweeted 2 hours ago but looks like everyone missed it.

Murdoch says he's off to City for £85m.

I'm getting in a 'City could have had him for free 3 years ago' dig to calm me down from the idea of him going there.
 
Could City even spend 85m in total under FFP? With an aging squad, it is not like they can sell off many players for substantial fees, unless they were going to get rid of Aguero to help fund Pogba.
 
For that sum, we could buy Lacazette, Kondogbia and Gundogdan.
 
Seriously, he's a world class player with frightening potential. Even if they sign him for £185M it would be massive for them and I'd be pretty pissed tbh.
 
People forget that he only just turned 22. His potential is enormous. The kid can dribble, has amazing technique, can shoot the ball better than anyone from distance, is athletic, has vision, and still has plenty of time to learn how to control the game.

You can also make up that money that you paid by selling him in 4 years or so.
 
Does he have the same agent as Yaya Toure? Almost seems like he does. Don't think I can stomach endless summers of "oh he might be off to this, that club"
 
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