Yes, it seems like they'll count 9/10 as a full season, along with 10/11 and 11/12 which will make him homegrown. I'm surprised, didn't think he'd get it, Jones didn't get it IIRC, and he was short by much less.
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Will Pogba get a new haircut if he signs with us ?
Maybay he can color it part red with a devil shaven in it
Maybay he can color it part red with a devil shaven in it
He bloody well better.
Everything is arbitrary, your alternative is also arbitrary. I mean, in some countries you are considered an adult at 21 not 18, that's also arbitrary. But in that case, it's just due to the fact that youth football and the formative years stop at the U21 category after that you are supposed to be ready for Senior football.
Goes back to your point I guess about what constitutes a 'youth' team player.
Just to clarify, they define a season so we know how to count the season he turns 21 in, but the confusing part is that they say he has to be with the club 3 seasons or 36 months. Do they count 36 months from the beginning of his first season with a qualifying club or 36 months from the moment he joins? Not disagreeing, just making sure I understand.
No it means what the rules state it does.
I must say I'm getting rather excited at the thought of having such a positive, driving force in midfield again. It's been too long.
From registration, and the season is defined for the purpose of clarifying 'complete'.
This can't be right - Phil Jones was developed in the Football League, first with Blackburn and then United and so there is no way he did not count as an English home-grown player for PL purposes. It doesn't have to be with the current club.
And the rule is?
We signed him in July 2009, so the 2009/10 season is 1.
The 10/11 season would be 2.
He left after the 2011/12 season, so that would be 3 seasons.
He was born in 1993 so he turned 21 in 2014.
@Rado_N am I applying the rule correctly?
Scroll up it has been posted.
Another day and no real news.
see if Sky Sports are right about him being in Manchester tomorrow.
see if Sky Sports are right about him being in Manchester tomorrow.
Cool and thank you.
2009/10 does not constitute a complete season, as he wasn't registered until October. This is why he doesn't qualify.
Also, if we (or anyone else) had signed him again at least 3 months before he turned 21 he would have qualified.
Got it. Okay. Why 3 years? Again my point is its an arbitary rule as all rules are. This particular rule is hardly true to the real 'spirit' of home-grown players now is it.
As will be proven very clearly when we re-sign Paul Pogba. Think about it.
We will have a player on our books that we originally poached from Le Harve and bought back from Juve for £100m. And he will be defined as 'home-grown'. Football's governing bodies never fail to amaze me.
When was the last time we had such a player? Maybe Keane in his early days? Before that, Robson?
No he won't!!!!
Because it represents half of the formative years. It's not even that difficult to understand.
Yes, I don't mean nationally, but he was like a month short of counting as homegrown at Man Utd.
yeah I just found that bit and was about to edit my post. So he falls just short.
the 3 season thing does not have to be with the same club, it can be with multiple clubs as long as the are part of the FA or FA of Wales.
Yup, by 3 months. Thanks to Le Havre bitching about us stealing their prospect
I'm talking about homegrown at club, not country. Jones is homegrown in England, but a month short of homegrown at Man Utd.
At the risk of going slightly off topic...
Why does it matter if he's homegrown or not? Could we have a lack of homegrown players for the CL or something?
Why does it matter if he's homegrown or not? Could we have a lack of homegrown players for the CL or something?
Well that's why everyone's circumstances are unique.
Not sure what you are really arguing here, the rule is what it is. Pogba falls short of being Home Grown by bit over a month. Nationality does not play a part in a player being home grown, because it would violate the law. We got Pogba when he was 16, so there is no issue with him being Home Grown had he spent enough time here because he would have developed with us.
The rule is intended to get clubs to use players developed within the two FA's. Now they don't have to be developed from the time they were 8 years old.
It is as arbitrary as any rule is, so what, not sure why that is an issue with you except you seem to want to argue everything in this thread today.
Maybe I missed something but does that even matter?
Only in European competition, really.
But in that case he will only be an association-trained player, if he spents the three years with the same club he is a club-trained player. From the UEFA pov, the first one qualifies for the list of 8 players association-trained and the second for the list of 4 players club-trained.
What does that mean? Semantics to me.
When asked to think of "dynamic" players I'd think of the likes of Vieira and Keane in their prime, players able to cover a lot of ground and get you on the front foot. Physicality is part of that.
At the risk of going slightly off topic...
Why does it matter if he's homegrown or not? Could we have a lack of homegrown players for the CL or something?
No-one told you?
Nail on the head. I see two very different players there. I'd always prefer a Keane type player to a Vieria one. And as I said ages ago Pogba reminds me of Viera.
Not arguing anything. Just saying I think the spirit of the idea of home-grown players is diluted by the rule. That's all.
Has there been anything new at all? All this silence is killing me.
Why cant he be built like Vierra but play like Keane?
Why cant he be built like Vierra but play like Keane?
Can we keep all this homegrown chat to either a different thread, or wait to at least something is official.
Will Pogba get a new haircut if he signs with us ?
Maybay he can color it part red with a devil shaven in it
He's Muslim, I doubt he'll have any satanic symbolism
Lol