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Smoking weed or sniffing a line of coke. Probably the latter
I agree that the board can be complete muppets, the Herrera shambles come to mind every time this is mentioned. But we aren't were we are in world football by chance mate, there are things we're doing right.Never. Ever. Ever underestimate how foolish the MUFC board (and management) can be.
In the last 3 years:
1, replaced a Galactico class manager (Fergie) with Moyes and gave him a 6 year contract. Jose (the ideal replacement) was available but, they thought it would be better to hire a manager who has never won a trophy in his life.
2, got rid of our entire (experienced) defensive line, in a single transfer window.
3, bought Fellaini for above his release clause
4, kept faith with Moyes even after he'd basically given up on our entire team and the season. And only sacked him once the season was completely wrecked.
5, bought Di Maria - British Transfer Record. The only player listed in the World FIFA XI, who was playing in the EPL. Arguably Madrid's best player. MOTM in their final game (CL Final). We did not know how/where to play him and sold him within 12 months, for a significant loss.
6, attempted to sell DDG (our best player for many years) - they only failed because of Madrid's mess-up.
7, LVG was allowed to implement his non-goal scoring philosophy, even though the fans/media were getting on his back. He was even booed. The OT fans chanted "attack attack attack". He was eventually sacked, but was given approximately half a season to rectify the boring football which he had implemented...but he failed to change.
I'm sure there other errors in judgement, but it would not shock me if they sold Pogba a few years later for a cut price deal, to our rivals.
Never. Ever. Ever underestimate how foolish the MUFC board (and management) can be.
In the last 3 years:
1, replaced a Galactico class manager (Fergie) with Moyes and gave him a 6 year contract. Jose (the ideal replacement) was available but, they thought it would be better to hire a manager who has never won a trophy in his life.
2, got rid of our entire (experienced) defensive line, in a single transfer window.
3, bought Fellaini for above his release clause
4, kept faith with Moyes even after he'd basically given up on our entire team and the season. And only sacked him once the season was completely wrecked.
5, bought Di Maria - British Transfer Record. The only player listed in the World FIFA XI, who was playing in the EPL. Arguably Madrid's best player. MOTM in their final game (CL Final). We did not know how/where to play him and sold him within 12 months, for a significant loss.
6, attempted to sell DDG (our best player for many years) - they only failed because of Madrid's mess-up.
7, LVG was allowed to implement his non-goal scoring philosophy, even though the fans/media were getting on his back. He was even booed. The OT fans chanted "attack attack attack". He was eventually sacked, but was given approximately half a season to rectify the boring football which he had implemented...but he failed to change.
I'm sure there other errors in judgement, but it would not shock me if they sold Pogba a few years later for a cut price deal, to our rivals.
You are right Sunama, and there are more!
It wouldn't be another year though. Real are facing a possible transfer ban which means by the time they go back for him, if he hasn't signed a new contract at Juve, he'd be approaching the end of his contract, and would be available for peanuts, which is exactly what Real would want in all honesty
LOL
I hope we don't have a melt down tonight.
Also, wasn't the last big news: "deal is only hours away".
Well, I've waited a few hours and nothing.
I'll bite, Pogue.
First, because, United fans are special in that we overrate the impact, because of Sir Alex, of a manager to such extraordinary lengths that some forget just how good a manager like Mourinho actually is. Many managers, like Zidane IMO, can and have accomplished many things purely through the quality of the players at their disposal. I firmly believe Mourinho is a better manager than Zidane. I don't think Mourinho is perfect, a God, or better than Sir Alex. But I do think he's better than Zidane.
Second, if Pogba comes back to United, he'd be coming back to a place he knows. He knows the passion of the fans, what MUFC means to Manchester, and exactly how large his impact could be on this team. It's not the unknown of the circus that is Madrid, competing with Ronaldo, Bale and worrying about every single flavour of the month player of the moment in every transfer window. It's Manchester United. He'd have a chance to work with Mourinho and make history here. He could be looking over his shoulder every window at Real and Zidane could be gone 10 matches into next season.
Where have you been? You need to soothe us with whispered positive thoughts, like you used to do in the Mourinho thread.
Don't ever log off until this is finished.
Or its done and we are just playing it cool for now? If it is done the only anxious people is us fans who dont know.
Good post
I completely agree with you, of course they are different players and it was possibly my fault but the original post was that I thought there are many midfielders (not really thinking about role in the team) better than him.
Right now we are nowhere in world football and that's why Mourinho is here now because he's entrusted to, hopefully, get us there again.
This is the most logical explanation I feel. It would do Real Madrid no favours to have their interest made public in the Spanish press, if they know that the fee is beyond them and they will likely lose out. However, my only concern would be their losing out on Andre Gomes, as it could force their hand to move on a player (James, Morata) to subsidize a deal for Pogba (if they feel that the central midfield needs strength or depth, and they aren't impressed by other potential targets).
Absolutely not. José isn't blind or oblivious to these matas, he will turn his back and aim for the next midfield target in line the moment he sense cold feet from Pogba.
Honestly thought after La Stampa update we'd hear more today.
Was that deal agreed report nonsense like the rest of this thread?
Was that deal agreed report nonsense like the rest of this thread?
Surely you can see the business side of this? There is a clause in his contract about making top 4, and he was let go as soon as it was mathematically impossible. There was no guarantee that we would have improved at all had we brought in a temporary manager, most likely would have been Giggs anyway.
Like he did with Rooney three seasons ago or Stones last season?
Yep. Also those weekend reports about deal being done tuesday or wednesday at the latest... Just shows how much bs is being chatted.
The journalist is supposed to be reliable but if what he said is true you would have thought it'd be reported by others (Di Marzio especially) So I'm not sure what to think about that.
What's the point in that? What do the clubs gain from it?
I'm still confident, I'm also not living in this thread anymore though as its better for my sanity.
What if it's all smokscreen for Girezman
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I'd rather we signed Griezmann, than Pogba.
Not quite sure what you are alluding or whether we have enough information of the dealings/negotiations to compare the three. You might want to fill me in here.
Wow sunama is such a rebel.
Time for us and sponsors to set up media stuff, websites, advertising etc.
Ok then.There is always the possibility that we agreed to sign Zlatan on the basis that Raiola would also deliver Pogba. It is possible that Raiola could do a u-turn.
Usurp RAWK goes into meltdown.
But, but, we need you to balance out the anti-muppetry in here
Juve get to look like they tried hard and negotiated well. Pogba is on holiday anyway so we wont have him in Manchester for a while yet.
Chelsea ended up with no striker when they went all in for Rooney in 2013 and ended up with Djibouli as a defender after putting all their eggs in the Stones basket last year. It isn't impossible to think that same may happen this season with us and Pogba.
How on earth is that an unpopular opinion.
I'm fairly confident 99% of United fans would take griezmann over pogba
A lot of the Italian outlets state "hours away" which in fact means days or weeks away. It's lost in translation basically. It doesn't literally mean hours away.
700 pages in, and we still don't really have a clue what's going on.
It seemed to peak about 10 days ago, where it sounded imminent. Very reminiscent of the Vidal saga last year, although this did seem much more likely.
Just can't believe Real Madrid would match our offer, as surely they wouldn't have let us hype the price up insanely. Instead they'd have just told the player to only deal with them. Bit like when VP would only sign for us not City.
Worst case scenario is Real get him, and for tonnes less than we'd have paid.
On another note, this Pilib de Brun character. He's Irish right?So what the bloody hell is the name Pilib de Brun? Like he's some Belgian or something!?
And why is he so often quoted?
It seemed to peak about 10 days ago, where it sounded imminent. Very reminiscent of the Vidal saga last year, although this did seem much more likely.
Just can't believe Real Madrid would match our offer, as surely they wouldn't have let us hype the price up insanely. Instead they'd have just told the player to only deal with them. Bit like when VP would only sign for us not City.
Worst case scenario is Real get him, and for tonnes less than we'd have paid.
On another note, this Pilib de Brun character. He's Irish right?So what the bloody hell is the name Pilib de Brun? Like he's some Belgian or something!?
And why is he so often quoted?
We'll all pretend that we never wanted Pogba in the first place, he's overrated and overpriced.
That last line that cracked me up. Kante who has had one good season? Also he is a different type of to Pogba. You can compare Kante and Busquets but not one of them to Pogba. And so many on here were dissing on Zlatan and how he scored only in a shit league and it doesnt count but the same posters praise Verratti as if he proved himself at Madrid or Barca. He is playing in the same shit league for the same shit team. But why is one held to a better opinion than another?
If Pogba's sold he's sold. The fans don't have a meter for negotiations.