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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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Why Juv can ignore the clause in THEIR contract with Raiola and refuse to pay the % of agent fees that THEY AGREED WITH RAIOLA? Then why sign contract to start with?
 
None of Marcotti's conclusions from the agent fee stand off make sense. You're telling me that the reluctant Madrid is gonna come in and make a 150 mil bid to pay Juventus and Raiola when Marca have been talking about how they have no need for Pogba for the last couple of weeks? Or that if RM come in, the agent will waive his fee (doesn't sound at all like Raiola)? Even then, it's hard to see RM forking out 120 mil unless they sell James who came out and said he was staying.
 
None of Marcotti's conclusions from the agent fee stand off make sense. You're telling me that the reluctant Madrid is gonna come in and make a 150 mil bid to pay Juventus and Raiola when Marca have been talking about how they have no need for Pogba for the last couple of weeks? Or that if RM come in, the agent will waive his fee (doesn't sound at all like Raiola)? Even then, it's hard to see RM forking out 120 mil unless they sell James who came out and said he was staying.
Who knows what's going on behind the scenes. For all we know, both Madrid and us could have been negotiating with Juve. It's not like every transfer dealing gets leaked. Juve stands to gain by playing us off against Madrid in a bidding war.

If Pogba was determined to come here, then that wouldn't be much of an issue. But if he's not sold on us exclusively, then it's a mano-o-mano between us and Madrid. In that case, they might have the edge.
 
Why Juv can ignore the clause in THEIR contract with Raiola and refuse to pay the % of agent fees that THEY AGREED WITH RAIOLA? Then why sign contract to start with?
They're not ignoring it. They're willing to pay it, as long as their share is still what they value Pogba at, which seems to be 120 million. Technically, they havent't done anything wrong, it's just really inconvenient.
 
I am sure Real have the money to buy Pogba, but they don't seem to have the will to do so at the prices being quoted right now. They have a strong team as it is, and they may not feel Pogba is not worth that kind of money to them.

IMO I think Raiola's "20% cut" clause is causing all the problems. Why would Juve want to pay someone who is backing their player to leave for another club? Juve wants the full transfer fee, and I think they couldn't care less what Raiola makes (or not) from this deal.

That's why in a normal situation, it's the buying club that pays the agent fees anyway.
 
I am sure Real have the money to buy Pogba, but they don't seem to have the will to do so at the prices being quoted right now. They have a strong team as it is, and they may not feel Pogba is not worth that kind of money to them.

IMO I think Raiola's "20% cut" clause is causing all the problems. Why would Juve want to pay someone who is backing their player to leave for another club? Juve wants the full transfer fee, and I think they couldn't care less what Raiola makes (or not) from this deal.

That's why in a normal situation, it's the buying club that pays the agent fees anyway.
The uprising of Casemiro may have reduced their "urge" to sign Pogba.
 
The uprising of Casemiro may have reduced their "urge" to sign Pogba.
They don't play the same role. Which was a critical role that gave them balance in midfield.

Not saying they shouldn't have upgraded on Casemiro: they probably should've, and may well regret it.
 
Well if Raiola really does take care of his clients, he would have meant these words :

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2015/0...ld-snub-real-madrid-claims-agent-mino-raiola/

Here even when new mentions Pogba liking Zidane, He mentions other clubs including it us:


Why is that Rubbish? Bale went up a notch to his current level, since playing for a better team, why can't Pogba do the same?

Bale was the best player in the PL when he was sold to Madrid. If we buy Pogba back he won't even be the best player in Manchester.
 
Bale was the best player in the PL when he was sold to Madrid. If we buy Pogba back he won't even be the best player in Manchester.

So similar to Bale not even being the best player in Madrid? Says nothing basically.

Do agree with your original argument though. At least at this stage.
 
That doesn't count for much now does it? When is the last time an Italian team won a European trophy?

Juve have gone pretty close to 2 finals in recent years, and Pogba, although out of position for France reached the final. Better than most English clubs.
 
Well if Raiola really does take care of his clients, he would have meant these words :

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2015/0...ld-snub-real-madrid-claims-agent-mino-raiola/

Here even when new mentions Pogba liking Zidane, He mentions other clubs including it us:


Why is that Rubbish? Bale went up a notch to his current level, since playing for a better team, why can't Pogba do the same?

I'll probably sound like a WUM here but it is true so I'll say it. The situations are completely different. Bale moved from Spurs - a nothing team with regards to stature and reputation in Europe and went to Real Madrid, a far superior team in every department. Juventus, currently, are a (much) better side than United. So Pogba would be taking a downward move in terms of teammate quality.
 
Plus they have to pay for other players, whether in installments or otherwise. Some people are acting like this year's payment to Napoli is all that they have to pay out.

Besides, the only thing that anyone has to go on about whether or not Juve can pay for Higuain and keep Pogba, is coming from Juve themselves. Which is exactly what you would expect them to sell. If I buy a new house down the road before I sell my old house, I'm not going to tell potential buyers of the old house that I need to hurry up and sell. I'm going to say that I'm thinking about keeping the old house, it has a lot of sentimental memories, maybe I'll put my in-laws there so that they're closer to their grand kids, etc. I sure as hell aren't telling them that I'm going to go bankrupt if I don't sell the house ASAP.
Exactly this

They have made a couple of signings too.

And other than Moratta,haven't gotten a lot of money in yet.
 
Bale was the best player in the PL when he was sold to Madrid. If we buy Pogba back he won't even be the best player in Manchester.
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Talent wise, Pogba is comfortably at Bale's level. Certainly there's not enough difference to remark it as "rubbish".
 
Bale was not the best player in the Prem when he moved to Real.

RVP and Suarez were both better than him.

Bale's won the PFA player of the year twice in an undeserving manner.
 
Bale was the best player in the PL when he was sold to Madrid. If we buy Pogba back he won't even be the best player in Manchester.

That's incorrect, though. He would be the best player in Manchester.
 
Bale was not the best player in the Prem when he moved to Real.

RVP and Suarez were both better than him.

Bale's won the PFA player of the year twice in an undeserving manner.
It doesn't matter because officially he was still considered the best. The biggest difference between two is that Bale was bought as a game changer with his goals +assists. His high numbers at Tottenham is the main reason his fee became huge, Pogba's has other elements making his transfer fee so big.
Well if Raiola really does take care of his clients, he would have meant these words :

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2015/0...ld-snub-real-madrid-claims-agent-mino-raiola/

Here even when new mentions Pogba liking Zidane, He mentions other clubs including it us:


Why is that Rubbish? Bale went up a notch to his current level, since playing for a better team, why can't Pogba do the same?

Key words here, we don't know how this Manchester will be and if it will be better than Juventus over time whereas the difference between Spurs and Real Madrid is just too much.
 
Laddies and gentlemen welcome to the Pogba day. :drool:
P.S. The more I think about it maybe this prolonged transfer saga is just a marketing ploy by a club to generate even more interest in a world record transfer. We had a whole months of talk in papers and on internet about United and Pogba. Now it's time to bring the boy home.
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