Would you disagree that Giggs probably wanted Chicha to stay? All an assistant can do is put their opinion across but we all know how stubborn LVG is
No, he was also the same under Moyes.
Would you disagree that Giggs probably wanted Chicha to stay? All an assistant can do is put their opinion across but we all know how stubborn LVG is
I don't know, we could still have agreed a deal 'in principle' with Pogba but he hasn't yet signed it, I.e. "If Pogba goes to United, these are the terms that will apply"GdS reconfirming Pogba's deal with MUFC is done would kind of remove this one right? Wouldn't pogba stalling mean no deal at all? Not even in principle?
This has to be the most tedious, tiresome, pointless thread in history. This should be locked and just wait till Pogba signs or he/Juve fecks off!
Maybe any other summer, Paul would have signed a new contract with Juve by now and be prepared to wait for Real next summer, but the complication at this point is that Real may have a transfer ban by then.I meant I believe it's his preference to go to Real. I don't believe us agreeing a deal in principle with him makes it as simple as 'Pogba prefers United to Real'. And it is not just Spanish media that have reported that his preference is Madrid.
I'm aware that he can obviously only go to Real if they meet the valuation. My point was, whatever talks may be happening or have happened between him/Raiola and Zidane may have caused him to not want to rush into signing a deal with us.
And who knows, perhaps he WILL stay at Juve for longer and wait for Real. He hasn't joined us yet. That would depend also on whatever assurances Real can offer him of course.
Again, he may well come back here. If he does, it won't be because he was forced, of course. It will likely be because we offered obscene cash to him. Quite simply, I believe he would prefer to play for Real than us, which isn't outrageous.
Teams like Everton, Palace and West Ham have agreed deals this summer with Witsel, Batshuayi and Bacca. I doubt all Everton fans are certain Witsel will join because a deal has been agreed. The fear will always remain that Juve don't sell Pogba and out up the money, and Witsel would likely stall until he was confident that wasn't the case. I'm sure he'd rather join them than stay in Russia, but he wouldn't rather join the, than Juve. At the moment, Juve haven't met the fee, but they are interested, which is why the deal won't go through in 24 hours. Shaqiri eventually joined Stoke as they were the only ones who would pay, however, he took his sweet time in signing, although the numbers were accepted well before. I also doubt Robinho or Aguero would have joined City if Barca/Real matched the numbers.
Of course, Real may not match the fee, but as long as they are 'interested' and the market remains open, I doubt Pogba will sign in a hurry. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a case of any deal with Real being held up only by commission to see him waive his fee or a part of it to help.
Not trying to be a pessimist, and was previously more confident, but that was largely due to announcements that Real had withdrawn completely which came out a couple of weeks back. While they remain in the hunt according to reports, I will never be as confident, as I believe they would be his first choice.
Tancredi is adamant Madrid are back in for him.
Doesnt sound that adamant to me
With all due respect, feck off.According to Tancredi and Spanish press Madrid are back in for Pogba.If Madrid are back in then we know how it will end up.
They've also said they won't pay the €120m that Juve want for him. So it's not happening.According to Tancredi and Spanish press Madrid are back in for Pogba.If Madrid are back in then we know how it will end up.
I think you should change your location to "Madrid will dominate me" you seem like somebody who enjoys being punishedAccording to Tancredi and Spanish press Madrid are back in for Pogba.If Madrid are back in then we know how it will end up.
According to Tancredi and Spanish press Madrid are back in for Pogba.If Madrid are back in then we know how it will end up.
LolWith all due respect, feck off.
According to Tancredi and Spanish press Madrid are back in for Pogba.If Madrid are back in then we know how it will end up.
It is very relevant. First of all because it hits Paul Scholes as a supporter. The club he loves has lost a player with great potential because he wasn't given space in our team. Paul Scholes may wonder if Pogba would have still left if he remained in retirement + he would be furious with the boy for not fighting for his first team place (these are people who think that Manchester United is the centre of the universe and that anything beyond not succeeding there is a failure).
It also hits him as a SAF's loyal disciple. Believe it or not, PS is SAF's most loyal disciple. Unlike Giggs and Gaz Paul Scholes didn't had any agents. When Moratti enquired about the guy, he ended up speaking with SAF who told him to stick his offer in an inappropriate place. Paul Pogba is the living embodiment of SAF's rare but biggest feckup. We're actually buying our talent back for 100m because the manager (Paul Scholes idol) preferred to stick to his golden oldies (which also include PS) than to this kid. For us, its not really that bad to admit that SAF messed up. He's the single most important person in this club's history but he's still human after all. However these people owe everything to the man, he made them the stars they are now and lead them to multiple victories. Basically they owe him everything and they can't stomach that he might have messed up big time.
Finally it challenges the very concept of the United way. The class of 92 have this romantic view of that period and think that United were lead by some knight in shining armour who would rather lose trophies then not giving youths a chance. Its unthinkable for them that SAF would rather lose a top quality but inexperienced talent and rely on his old guard just to end his career on high. This mentality is ironically highlighted by the Keano-SAF spat which is brilliantly described in one of SAF's books. At one point, Keane looked at SAF and told him that he had changed and he wasn't the man Keano idolised anymore. SAF admitted that he had to change else he wouldn't keep on winning. That is something I believe that the class of 92 have yet to fully comprehend. The SAF who gave them their shot wasn't the same SAF's of Pogba's time.
He's been saying that for the last few days though. Nothing that he hasn't already said.Go through his tweets.
He's saying they are back in for him but it will be too late.
According to Tancredi and Spanish press Madrid are back in for Pogba.If Madrid are back in then we know how it will end up.
you gotta remember too, Tancredi reports on TalkSPORT too, so i'd imagine he'd have to keep it interesting for the listeners and back it all up on his twitter.He's been saying that for the last few days though. Nothing that he hasn't already said.
According to Tancredi and Spanish press Madrid are back in for Pogba.If Madrid are back in then we know how it will end up.
Quick question. why are people so sure his preference is Madrid? Is it just because they are not United?
As far as i'm aware, he was pretty close to signing for Barcelona last year but the ban and figures involved stopped the move. Now a year later and he loves Madrid and would only join us cos of money?
Quick question. why are people so sure his preference is Madrid? Is it just because they are not United?
Number 3. Why I'd rather we didn't buy him.The delays must be because of one of three reasons IMO:
1. It's a "done deal" but a massive deal with a lot of technicalities to iron out like image rights, instalments, performance add ons, etc
Or
2. We are doing what we often do and are negotiating over relatively small amounts of money (in the scheme of things) - unfortunately this also gives Madrid more time to try and put together a deal themselves.
Or
3. Pogba himself is not 100% convinced about going to United (despite his agent persuading him to!) and is stalling in the hope that Madrid come back in.
Something people should take consider when deciding whether or not contradicting information from fanzines or 'late to the table' Twitter journo's are trustworthy, absolutely anything with the word Pogba in it is going to generate more traffic then they've ever experienced. I would even guarantee that posting a story that goes against the current grain would get you more hits than something that everyone else has been saying for the past 24 hours.
This is pretty much guaranteed. It would certainly be in line with what the Juventus manager and chairman have been saying. They'll be well happy with the money and will actually come out of this window with an all round stronger team and have made a profit.For what its worth, LuckHurst has written in Manchester Evening News :
"Talks between United and Pogba are ongoing and a source told M.E.N. Sport the clubs are 'on the same page', with Juve putting on a public show of defiance in an attempt to convince supporters they are doing their utmost to keep Pogba."
So you'd rather believe Tancredi than Marca? Marca are Real's mouthpiece. If Real Madrid want something out there, they'll just get Marca to print it and away they go.
Marca have said Perez doesn't quite fancy Pogba, and with James staying, it complicates things even more. Tancredi is definitely clickbaiting. He's the only person saying such things, and i'm pretty damn certain he wouldn't have more info than Dimarzio
Also when did the tables get turned?? Wasn't it Zidane who was trying to convince Perez, and Perez was having none of it because of the fees involved and the face James won't leave? Now Tancredi is hinting that Perez is desperately asking Zidane to convince Pogba. Come on now, is he for real?
Tancredi is worse than indykaila
Would you disagree that Giggs probably wanted Chicha to stay? All an assistant can do is put their opinion across but we all know how stubborn LVG is